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Posted: 6/7/2019 2:32:16 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/7/2019 2:46:29 PM EDT


Yes please
Link Posted: 6/7/2019 2:56:11 PM EDT
Definitely, please let us know especially on any lag.
Link Posted: 6/7/2019 3:11:45 PM EDT
In for feedback, what is the weight on that thing?
Link Posted: 6/7/2019 4:31:13 PM EDT
Must resist.....

Please lie and tell us it's not worth it.
Link Posted: 6/7/2019 4:39:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/7/2019 4:39:26 PM EDT by will-1]
get some video plz
Link Posted: 6/7/2019 6:40:13 PM EDT
In for vids
Link Posted: 6/7/2019 9:18:57 PM EDT
What’s the difference between the COTI and ECOTI?
Link Posted: 6/7/2019 9:25:18 PM EDT
I'd really like to see video of the HUD and augmented reality stuff in action. The idea of that blows me away.
Link Posted: 6/7/2019 10:32:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/7/2019 10:35:15 PM EDT by TheHorta]
Biggest difference is 640 core on the e-COTI versus 320 core on the original. “E” is also more rugged / not as fragile and, rumor has it, that the “E” has a less deleterious effect on i2 tubes than the earlier models.

Unfortunately, they didn’t take this opportunity to expand the circle to the full 40* image diameter, which is stupid and still sucks. The Brits did it years ago and got it right. I don’t see why they didn’t follow suit.
Link Posted: 6/8/2019 12:05:55 AM EDT
I’m leaving to look up the definition of deleterious...
Link Posted: 6/8/2019 7:10:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/8/2019 7:10:56 AM EDT by lilMAC25]
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Originally Posted By M0244:
I’m leaving to look up the definition of deleterious...
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Causing harm or damage.
Link Posted: 6/8/2019 8:31:44 AM EDT
This thread is deleterious to my wallet
Link Posted: 6/8/2019 8:47:09 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/8/2019 12:18:51 PM EDT
How does a non LEO /.mil guy get one of these?
Link Posted: 6/8/2019 12:29:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/8/2019 1:13:52 PM EDT by TheHorta]
Restriction is off-and-on with the e-COTI. Only recently did it go back on restriction. I presume is has to do with availability and .GOV orders. As I understand it, it’s basically up to the manufacturer (Optics1, in this case) unless some Alphabet Soup agency requests restriction of a particular product, but I doubt that’s the case with the COTI.

ETA: I almost suspect a bit of marketing ploy in this case. Create a sense of urgency when it becomes available, for a short time, to the civilian market again — “Hey look! They’re available again! Snag one quick while we still can!”
Link Posted: 6/8/2019 1:18:06 PM EDT
Can it be powered from a battery pack?
Link Posted: 6/8/2019 1:28:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/8/2019 1:36:03 PM EDT by DevL]
1. If they made it 40 deg 640 instead of 30 deg 640 there would be no increase in resolution over 20 deg 320. 30 deg 640 improves both FOV and resolution.

2. Is the ECOTI a smaller chip? Smaller chip means smaller lens. EDIT: 25 um vs 17 um core so yes, thats why the smaller lens.
Link Posted: 6/8/2019 2:00:52 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/8/2019 8:53:50 PM EDT
Originally Posted By smeeg:
Can it be powered from a battery pack?
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The E COTI can be, but for the price difference I'm happy with my COTI amd using CR123A only.
Link Posted: 6/8/2019 10:31:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MunnyShot:

The E COTI can be, but for the price difference I'm happy with my COTI amd using CR123A only.
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What's the power up time on the E COTI and COTI?

I don't necessarily need an external battery but I definitely need more than 3 hours per night. It if can be turned on and off quickly it might still work without an external battery

The Breach is terrible when it comes to rapid on/off
Link Posted: 6/8/2019 10:51:18 PM EDT
Power up is not bad, I just leave it on and swap out battery when it runs low. Easy to do without removing it from the nods. The beauty of the coti and e-coti is it giving you thermal info while on the move. Run time is better on the e-coti.
Link Posted: 6/8/2019 11:13:21 PM EDT
That's good to know thanks

I have a lot of time with the Breach + PVS14 combo and like it but want higher resolution, plus I love my binos and want the best of both worlds
Link Posted: 6/8/2019 11:34:14 PM EDT
Coti/e-coti are not going to necessarily give you better resolution than a breach. There purpose is more or less short range detection while using nods. I use outline most of the time, it gives the best detection range. When I dectect something in the distance and I cant’t determine what is is, I either use my ir patrol or 3x magnifier to positivity id.
Link Posted: 6/9/2019 2:16:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/9/2019 2:34:41 AM EDT by MunnyShot]
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Originally Posted By TX-Zen:
What's the power up time on the E COTI and COTI?

I don't necessarily need an external battery but I definitely need more than 3 hours per night. It if can be turned on and off quickly it might still work without an external battery

The Breach is terrible when it comes to rapid on/off
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It has a 2- 3 second fire up time with 2 hours run on the COTI aka TACS-M and 2 1/2 on the ECOTI. I'm trying to find a 3.0V rechargeables to use, but so far no luck.
I thought about selling my TACS-M to fund a Breach, but being able to navigate with a fused image, turning it on/off vs lifting it out of the way, and the light weight even with binos on keeps me from selling it. If I needed to locate game I'd go with a breach all day long, but for CQB work or near dark lighting you can't beat a fusion system.
Link Posted: 6/9/2019 7:04:52 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/9/2019 7:55:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TX-Zen:
That's good to know thanks

I have a lot of time with the Breach + PVS14 combo and like it but want higher resolution, plus I love my binos and want the best of both worlds
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Yes buy it and then do a write up comparison
Link Posted: 6/9/2019 11:32:22 AM EDT
How’s the sensitivity - how does it do with false hits like rocks, concrete, etc versus people/animals?

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Originally Posted By tjhorn:
Coti/e-coti are not going to necessarily give you better resolution than a breach. There purpose is more or less short range detection while using nods. I use outline most of the time, it gives the best detection range. When I dectect something in the distance and I cant’t determine what is is, I either use my ir patrol or 3x magnifier to positivity id.
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Link Posted: 6/9/2019 11:47:41 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/9/2019 11:57:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By will-1:
How’s the sensitivity - how does it do with false hits like rocks, concrete, etc versus people/animals?
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Both the coti and e-coti have an auto mode. Depending on conditions there can be a lot of "clutter". The nice thing is you can go into the menu and set parameters and virtually eliminate false readings. My use is mostly heavily wooded areas and by changing the settings I can adjust it so just animals just pop out. That being said, anytime I get a heat signature I typically further investigate it with my ir patrol. I am not sure how it will deal with rocks that are warmed by desert sun.
Link Posted: 6/9/2019 12:24:56 PM EDT
Cool. @TheHorta - you mentioned deleterious effects. So, these damage tubes?
Link Posted: 6/9/2019 2:08:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By will-1:
Cool. @TheHorta - you mentioned deleterious effects. So, these damage tubes?
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No more than any other light source. You are not typically looking a something continuously. I use mine regularly and no I'll effects so far.
Link Posted: 6/9/2019 2:26:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/9/2019 2:39:30 PM EDT by falcom]
Does anyone want this COTI missing sensor and lens?
Menu works fine.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/I-bought-this-broken-COTI-Is-there-any-use-for-it-/18-488434/

Link Posted: 6/9/2019 2:44:53 PM EDT
Would be interested in that COTI carcass, will shoot you an email.
Link Posted: 6/10/2019 12:17:55 PM EDT
What image would you see if you were wearing a PVS and E-COTI while driving a blacked-out truck through a field at night? Specifically I mean looking through the windshield.
Link Posted: 6/10/2019 12:49:05 PM EDT
You won't see any thermal, it doesn't pass through windows
Link Posted: 6/10/2019 3:14:20 PM EDT
With the E-COTI on, does the reflection interfere with the I2 image? Maybe that's what he meant?

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Originally Posted By TX-Zen:
You won't see any thermal, it doesn't pass through windows
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Link Posted: 6/10/2019 9:11:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By will-1:
With the E-COTI on, does the reflection interfere with the I2 image? Maybe that's what he meant?
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Lol yes thanks. I may be dumb but I'm not an idiot.

I drive all night with my WP NV, and scan with my Pulsar gear. Wondering how E-COTI will work with driving.
Link Posted: 6/10/2019 10:06:45 PM EDT
Ahhh, haha I see what you guys mean now

Can't comment myself. I'm still struggling not to buy a COTI
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 12:37:55 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 12:05:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/12/2019 12:13:13 PM EDT
I’ve seen thermal reflections before
Link Posted: 6/24/2019 3:46:06 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/24/2019 4:38:29 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/24/2019 5:00:43 PM EDT
@UNV - seriously, dual thermals? Which ones?

Bad ass rig

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Originally Posted By UNV:
I ended up ditching the windshield all together to make driving with dual helmet mounted thermals possible. Best decision I ever made!
https://cdn.ultimatenightvision.com/img/host/IMG_2662.JPG
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Link Posted: 6/24/2019 5:01:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By UNV:
I ended up ditching the windshield all together to make driving with dual helmet mounted thermals possible. Best decision I ever made!
https://cdn.ultimatenightvision.com/img/host/IMG_2662.JPG
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What are your thoughts on adult adoption?
Link Posted: 6/25/2019 12:24:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/25/2019 12:24:56 AM EDT by TX-Zen]
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Originally Posted By UNV:
I ended up ditching the windshield all together to make driving with dual helmet mounted thermals possible. Best decision I ever made!
https://cdn.ultimatenightvision.com/img/host/IMG_2662.JPG
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That's what I do too. Works like a charm
Link Posted: 6/25/2019 8:32:42 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/25/2019 9:04:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By will-1:
@UNV - seriously, dual thermals? Which ones?

Bad ass rig
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Ones you can’t get and come with “release paperwork.”

Link Posted: 6/25/2019 11:03:57 AM EDT
Link Posted: 6/25/2019 11:12:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/25/2019 11:14:44 AM EDT by TNVC]
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