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Posted: 11/17/2019 8:33:08 PM EDT
I've got an old Stevens 311 sitting in NICS jail at a LGS up the road. I've also got a hacksaw, a reasonable skill set, and $200. Now I'm looking for gun porn / inspiration / ideas while I wait for NICS to clear. Hook a brother up?
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Posted: 11/17/2019 11:14:04 PM EDT
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Lol. I just posted this in the picture thread. You plannin on going this short?
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Posted: 11/18/2019 6:28:40 AM EDT
[#2]
Not hardly, brother. More like 10 - 12".
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Posted: 11/18/2019 3:14:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sprocket99:
Not hardly, brother. More like 10 - 12". 
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Posted: 11/18/2019 3:34:19 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Girthrockwel:
I've got an old Stephens double barrel 16ga that my dad gave me. It would be cool as a shorty but I'm too sentimental about things to give it the chop... |
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Posted: 11/20/2019 10:26:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MadDogDan]
[#5]
Can’t help you with a SxS because I SBS’d an O/U but any configuration you choose is fun.
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Posted: 11/22/2019 11:11:39 AM EDT
[#6]
@MadDogDan
What length did you cut those barrels to, my friend? And how's the pattern with various loads? |
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Posted: 11/22/2019 1:01:15 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MadDogDan:
Can't help you with a SxS because I SBRd an O/U but any configuration you choose is fun. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/49370/B1FB3C6F-258D-4DFD-8F03-6DF91EE1E99A_jpeg-1168252.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/49370/2BDBA6D2-8E96-491B-BD93-3B73B5776DCA_jpeg-1168246.JPG |
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Posted: 11/22/2019 6:58:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sprocket99:
@MadDogDan What length did you cut those barrels to, my friend? And how's the pattern with various loads? |
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Posted: 11/22/2019 7:04:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MadDogDan]
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yamadog35:
I think I've seen this in another thread somewhere, but can you please give a brief description of the process used on the grip and handguard to get that look? I've got an O/U project underway and would like to do something a little different. |
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Posted: 11/23/2019 10:20:02 PM EDT
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So I bought the 311A last Saturday while I was poking around in a LGS in New Hampshire (no sales tax!). Predictably, NICS cleared while I was at work Monday morning.
Drove back over and fetched it home. Looks like this. 28" barrels, choked modified and full. Nothing special, but it's growing on me. 
It's got a few minor scuffs and rust spots. Should clean up all right. 
Some research on the interwebs turned up the production date code scheme for these guns. They apparently used a letter code from A = 1949 through V = 1968. Assuming that's an R, that'd be 1964. Anybody know about the numbers with it? 24th week, maybe? 
I'm still deliberating on where to apply the saw. I'll drag out the tape measure tomorrow and do some more thinking. |
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Posted: 11/23/2019 10:23:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sprocket99:
So I bought the 311A last Saturday while I was poking around in a LGS in New Hampshire (no sales tax!). Predictably, NICS cleared while I was at work Monday morning. https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/anim_banghead.gif Drove back over and fetched it home. Looks like this. 28" barrels, choked modified and full. Nothing special, but it's growing on me. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/472753/full-1171316.jpg It's got a few minor scuffs and rust spots. Should clean up all right. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/472753/reciever_L-1171317.jpg Some research on the interwebs turned up the production date code scheme for these guns. They apparently used a letter code from A = 1949 through V = 1968. Assuming that's an R, that'd be 1964. Anybody know about the numbers with it? 24th week, maybe? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/472753/stamp_-_bottom_receiver-1171320.jpg I'm still deliberating on where to apply the saw. I'll drag out the tape measure tomorrow and do some more thinking. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 11/23/2019 11:42:57 PM EDT
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Here's mine. Stoger Uplander with 12" barrels. It is as close as I could get to a Road Warrior replica from movie stills.
Using S&B 00 Buck. 12" SBS |
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Posted: 11/23/2019 11:51:11 PM EDT
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OP, you realize you'll end up w/ a gap btwn the bbls if you don't resolder them? And you may have to solder them @ the muzzle anyway.
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Posted: 11/23/2019 11:59:30 PM EDT
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I've noticed that most everyone seems to turn their double barrel into a literal hand cannon. I just filed for a stamp for a Stoeger SxS coach gun. My intent is to cut it off after the wood forearm stops, but leave the full stock. In every video I see, people's wrists are usually demolished when firing these things one handed. Is there no love for a regular stocked short SxS?
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Posted: 11/24/2019 12:25:41 AM EDT
[#15]
I bought a cheap Ithaca 20 I want to chop. I figured I’d chop it two or three times to practice before I decided on final length.
Originally Posted By hoodfu:
I've noticed that most everyone seems to turn their double barrel into a literal hand cannon. I just filed for a stamp for a Stoeger SxS coach gun. My intent is to cut it off after the wood forearm stops, but leave the full stock. In every video I see, people's wrists are usually demolished when firing these things one handed. Is there no love for a regular stocked short SxS?  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/24/2019 8:42:29 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoodfu:
My intent is to cut it off after the wood forearm stops, but leave the full stock. In every video I see, people's wrists are usually demolished when firing these things one handed. Is there no love for a regular stocked short SxS? 
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Posted: 11/24/2019 9:31:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By civic96hb:
Cut the stock down a bit too The barrels are currently 28" long. I'll likely prune that back to about 12.5". That'll put the muzzles about 3/4"forward of the existing tip of the forend wood. OAL should work out to about 26" after the initial hack job. Plan is to shoot that for feels. I may go shorter on one or both ends (would like to), but I don't want to blow a hand off just to have a cool range/HD toy. 
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Posted: 11/24/2019 9:39:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoodfu:
I've noticed that most everyone seems to turn their double barrel into a literal hand cannon. I just filed for a stamp for a Stoeger SxS coach gun. My intent is to cut it off after the wood forearm stops, but leave the full stock. In every video I see, people's wrists are usually demolished when firing these things one handed. Is there no love for a regular stocked short SxS? |
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Posted: 11/24/2019 9:57:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/24/2019 10:13:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoodfu:
I've noticed that most everyone seems to turn their double barrel into a literal hand cannon. I just filed for a stamp for a Stoeger SxS coach gun. My intent is to cut it off after the wood forearm stops, but leave the full stock. In every video I see, people's wrists are usually demolished when firing these things one handed. Is there no love for a regular stocked short SxS? 
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Posted: 11/24/2019 10:38:05 AM EDT
[#21]
That looks awesome. Now I have a picture that I can bring to my gunsmith.
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Posted: 11/24/2019 12:39:31 PM EDT
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Not mine, but this is a pic from someone who documented his SBS project on a website somewhere (can't find the site at the moment). This illustrates what he shortened. What he did with the buttstock is essentially what I want to do to mine although I probably won't cut quite that much.
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Posted: 11/24/2019 8:44:51 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryThis is pretty much what I'm going to do. Only difference being that I figure to take less off the stock, and do it in smaller bites there and the barrel end. Great visualization aid, though.
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Posted: 11/28/2019 9:58:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: RaptorFuel]
[#24]
 Attached FileI bought this 1962, 311A for $260 with intent to chop. It looks barely used with some pitting on the barrels and light scratches on the stock, but the action is still tight. I'm waiting to shoot it to start the form 1. It's kind of growing on me, so If it shoots nice it might be hard to cut it down. |
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Posted: 11/28/2019 10:12:55 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher:
OP, you realize you'll end up w/ a gap btwn the bbls if you don't resolder them? And you may have to solder them @ the muzzle anyway. Another possibility is using JB Weld to fill the gap. Not certain I like the idea, butt... I have seen it talked/written about from folks in the cowboy action shooting community. |
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Posted: 11/28/2019 1:34:15 PM EDT
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You could cut a piece of steel zactly to fit btween the bbls, put your solder in, solder that piece in last. hit it w/ cold blue.
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Posted: 1/5/2020 6:34:43 PM EDT
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I have a pre-serial SxS I may cut down and do this. I've wanted a decent side by side donor gun for years but haven't found one at a reasonable price. I like the idea of a stock and like 9" barrels. Not full stock, but hand cannons seem to be popular and if you'r paying to go short may as well go whole hog, right?
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Posted: 1/5/2020 7:20:14 PM EDT
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Saw a Stoeger Tactical locally for a good price and am tempted to grab it for a host. Thing is already butt ugly so it's no big loss I just don't know if it's too ugly to chop.
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Posted: 1/16/2020 4:10:45 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hoodfu:
I've noticed that most everyone seems to turn their double barrel into a literal hand cannon. I just filed for a stamp for a Stoeger SxS coach gun. My intent is to cut it off after the wood forearm stops, but leave the full stock. In every video I see, people's wrists are usually demolished when firing these things one handed. Is there no love for a regular stocked short SxS? |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2020 11:07:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MadDogDan: That’s because they are shooting it one handed.....WRONG. You take your off hand and place it “on top” of the barrels, well behind the muzzle. That way your off hand holds the shorty DOWN under recoil. The recoil is greatly diminished saving your wrist from unnecessary pain. |
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Posted: 2/19/2020 11:19:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TXJGP90]
[#31]
Liking the look of that birds head. Did you do it yourself or have it done somewhere? I also have a 20 ga Stevens 311 that I bought to cut down. Looking to shape something similar.
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Posted: 2/19/2020 11:50:58 PM EDT
[#32]
Originally Posted By TXJGP90:
Liking the look of that birds head. Did you do it yourself or have it done somewhere? I also have a 20 ga Stevens 311 that I bought to cut down. Looking to shape something similar. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/766/31871.JPG |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 12:57:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: I don't trust myself to build/shape the grip  Dude, I built a shotgun stock out of Legos. It's not that hard.
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Posted: 2/20/2020 1:19:07 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher:
Dude, I built a shotgun stock out of Legos. It's not that hard.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher:
Originally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: I don't trust myself to build/shape the grip Dude, I built a shotgun stock out of Legos. It's not that hard. |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 5:02:58 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher:
Dude, I built a shotgun stock out of Legos. It's not that hard. |
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Posted: 2/20/2020 12:46:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: backbencher]
[#36]
Picture:
Video w/ 3" 00 12 ga buck: http://www.feinsteingewehrwerke.com/loes/stocks/mk8/mk8Prototype24rnds003in.3gp |
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Posted: 2/22/2020 2:10:42 PM EDT
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Holy crap! My kids’ Lego kits fall apart if you breathe on them... How did you get that thing to stay together? Epoxy?
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Posted: 2/22/2020 7:43:22 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TXJGP90: Holy crap! My kids’ Lego kits fall apart if you breathe on them... How did you get that thing to stay together? Epoxy? |
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Posted: 2/22/2020 9:28:24 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher:
Picture: http://www.feinsteingewehrwerke.com/loes/stocks/mk8/mk8Prototype.jpg Video w/ 3" 00 12 ga buck: http://www.feinsteingewehrwerke.com/loes/stocks/mk8/mk8Prototype24rnds003in.3gp |
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Posted: 2/23/2020 11:27:01 PM EDT
[#40]
Hmmmm...I bought a Boito SXS from a coworker for $100 a couple years ago and still haven’t picked it up. Might have to be my next stamped item.
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Posted: 7/26/2020 7:56:20 PM EDT
[#41]
I figure it's about time to resurrect this thread...
I'd been holding off on this project in case I got quarantined or something. No such luck. Anyway, the eForm 1 cleared 01/16/20. Daughter and I dragged it out of the safe and got after it. Before picture is up above in this thread. Nothing special. After picture:  Nothing's been done at this point other than sawing it off. Turns out my belt grinder needs work before we continue the project. Here's what we did... - barrels: were 28", now 10". - forearm shortened by 2.5" - stock bobbed by 3" - LOP was 14", now 11" - OAL is right at 23" as it sits It's slated to get a thick, cushy recoil pad, so LOP and OAL will change to reflect that. Other than that, shaping the wood, finishing the barrels, and maybe some refinishing work. We shall see. |
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Posted: 7/26/2020 8:53:01 PM EDT
[#42]
That looks really nice.
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Posted: 7/26/2020 11:55:19 PM EDT
[#43]
Two things. That looks great and thanks for updating the thread. Most people don't follow up.
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Posted: 7/27/2020 5:34:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: That looks really nice.  |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 5:40:52 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ALASKANFIRE: Two things. That looks great and thanks for updating the thread. Most people don't follow up. We're definitely going to refinish the wood. Thinking about re-blueing the barrels, too. The sticking points at present are (1) selection of available recoil pads is looking pretty limited, out of stock in lots of places. And (2) I've got to re-wire my tired old belt grinder before I can start on the woodwork and such. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 6:27:15 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sprocket99: I figure it's about time to resurrect this thread... I'd been holding off on this project in case I got quarantined or something. No such luck. Anyway, the eForm 1 cleared 01/16/20. Daughter and I dragged it out of the safe and got after it. Before picture is up above in this thread. Nothing special. After picture: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/472753/311_after_hack_job-1520581.jpg Nothing's been done at this point other than sawing it off. Turns out my belt grinder needs work before we continue the project. Here's what we did... - barrels: were 28", now 10". - forearm shortened by 2.5" - stock bobbed by 3" - LOP was 14", now 11" - OAL is right at 23" as it sits It's slated to get a thick, cushy recoil pad, so LOP and OAL will change to reflect that. Other than that, shaping the wood, finishing the barrels, and maybe some refinishing work. We shall see. Awesome update! I filed my stamp through silencer shop in April. Got dicked around and it was rejected, finally refiled last week. I’m probably going to do exactly what you did. I found an old rubber recoil pad in my box of stuff so I’ll cut down with adding that length in mind. How did cutting the barrels go and what did you do it with? |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 8:19:09 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sprocket99: Thanks for the compliment. I'll try to keep this incredible dog of a thread up to date as the adventure continues. We're definitely going to refinish the wood. Thinking about re-blueing the barrels, too. The sticking points at present are (1) selection of available recoil pads is looking pretty limited, out of stock in lots of places. And (2) I've got to re-wire my tired old belt grinder before I can start on the woodwork and such. I hear on good authority that daughters conduct electricity well enough to run a belt grinder just fine.
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Posted: 7/27/2020 10:04:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steviesterno16: Awesome update! I filed my stamp through silencer shop in April. Got dicked around and it was rejected, finally refiled last week. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steviesterno16: Awesome update! I filed my stamp through silencer shop in April. Got dicked around and it was rejected, finally refiled last week. Ya know, it’s pretty simple to file it yourself on the ATF site... My last one took all of half an hour. Originally Posted By steviesterno16: How did cutting the barrels go and what did you do it with? I used a Makita 14” cut-off saw with a DeWalt blade. Pretty much like this:  I clamped a length of 2x2 angle iron in the machine, as a base for my setup Once that was checked for square and solid, I shimmed the barrels to have a square cut. Be advised that the barrels taper in two dimensions, so you’ll need to shim under and behind them. Once all was double-checked, just hack it off. My setup was a bit off, so I’m gonna have to file <1/64” from one side to square it up. |
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Posted: 7/27/2020 10:07:40 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: I hear on good authority that daughters conduct electricity well enough to run a belt grinder just fine. |
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Posted: 8/9/2020 8:55:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Sprocket99]
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steviesterno16: I found an old rubber recoil pad in my box of stuff so I'll cut down with adding that length in mind. @steviesterno16 |
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