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Posted: 2/14/2021 2:06:43 PM EDT
I have an itch to pick one up. Not looking to break the bank but I can't find one locally, nor on gun broker at the moment. Anyone know of some obscure sites to find one on?
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I sold one last late last year. It was an FN contract in 7.62NATO. It was matching bolt to receiver which were the only numbers on it. It was nice but it was taking up space and tying up money.
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Quoted: I sold one last late last year. It was an FN contract in 7.62NATO. It was matching bolt to receiver which were the only numbers on it. It was nice but it was taking up space and tying up money. View Quote My buddy had one that he sold a few years back. I wish I would.have snagged it. I just want one for the history. Nothing special. |
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I bought a nice one last year $200
Great bore too. Built on a 45 dou k98 |
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I'd like one as well.
Nothing says irony like an Israeli and Nazi marked Mauser. |
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I've got one on layaway that I should be picking up this week.
The prices for them on gunbroker have gone full retard. Several nasty Guatemala rifles have gone for a almost a grand in the last month. A few nice Erma built guns & Fn built guns have gone north of $1400. |
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Quoted: I've got one on layaway that I should be picking up this week. The prices for them on gunbroker have gone full retard. Several nasty Guatemala rifles have gone for a almost a grand in the last month. A few nice Erma built guns & Fn built guns have gone north of $1400. View Quote Yeah that's retarded. I'm not wanting to pay anywhere near that. |
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You are going to have a hard time finding one for under $900. They haven’t imported them in years so it’s not like they are in stock somewhere. Your best chance is to find one at a shop or a show where they haven’t kept up on prices. That gets harder to do every day.
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Quoted: You are going to have a hard time finding one for under $900. They haven’t imported them in years so it’s not like they are in stock somewhere. Your best chance is to find one at a shop or a show where they haven’t kept up on prices. That gets harder to do every day. View Quote I get it but you never know. I have found lots of guns for less than internet craze pricing over the years. Never know if you don't ask/look |
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[#10]
Decent Mauser of any kind is a big investment these days. Even Yugos can top $500.
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Quoted: Never know if you don't ask/look View Quote This right here in a nut shell. I'm a cheap ass myself & I love to haggle with people. What's the worst that happens? You get something cheaper or asking price or not at all. I've walked out of many a gun shop with a for far less than asking price because they were sick of looking at it& wanted to cash out. I will say that the Israeli k98 I'm getting is the priciest mauser I've ever bought at just shy of a grand. But in excellent condition (not one of the Guatemala guns), & has a nice wartime bayonet, grenade launcher, & some other assorted extras that made it worth it to me. They're also as hard to come by as hens teeth around here. |
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[#12]
Mine is FN manufacture.
OP your best bet is to hit up gun shows and ask around there too. Most auction sites will attract the people that will pay high prices. |
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Quoted: The show those weekend had none. I will try at the spring show View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Mine is FN manufacture. OP your best bet is to hit up gun shows and ask around there too. Most auction sites will attract the people that will pay high prices. The show those weekend had none. I will try at the spring show you might have to hit 20 shows to find one If you come to Tulsa in Apr or Nov (if they aren't canceled) you most likely will find one. |
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Keep an eye on empire arms website and sign up for his mailing list.
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About 10 or 12 years ago I was searching for a nice k98 and bought an Israeli k98 as a
placeholder. A couple of years later I found a nice all German k98. I've been meaning to post some photos of the Israeli so you guys can tell me about it. I had planned to sell the Israeli till I picked up a Israeli High Power, they make such a nice pair that I don't know if I want to split them up. |
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Quoted: About 10 or 12 years ago I was searching for a nice k98 and bought an Israeli k98 as a placeholder. A couple of years later I found a nice all German k98. I've been meaning to post some photos of the Israeli so you guys can tell me about it. I had planned to sell the Israeli till I picked up a Israeli High Power, they make such a nice pair that I don't know if I want to split them up. View Quote Post some pics! |
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Quoted: Quoted: About 10 or 12 years ago I was searching for a nice k98 and bought an Israeli k98 as a placeholder. A couple of years later I found a nice all German k98. I've been meaning to post some photos of the Israeli so you guys can tell me about it. I had planned to sell the Israeli till I picked up a Israeli High Power, they make such a nice pair that I don't know if I want to split them up. Post some pics! I just dug it out of the safe. Probably take some photos tomorrow with better light. The receiver is code 147 and year 1940. Besides the Israeli markings it has "GB" on the side of the receiver. If I remember correctly that means that it was in Sweden or one of the Scandinavian countries at some point. |
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Quoted: I just dug it out of the safe. Probably take some photos tomorrow with better light. The receiver is code 147 and year 1940. Besides the Israeli markings it has "GB" on the side of the receiver. If I remember correctly that means that it was in Sweden or one of the Scandinavian countries at some point. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: About 10 or 12 years ago I was searching for a nice k98 and bought an Israeli k98 as a placeholder. A couple of years later I found a nice all German k98. I've been meaning to post some photos of the Israeli so you guys can tell me about it. I had planned to sell the Israeli till I picked up a Israeli High Power, they make such a nice pair that I don't know if I want to split them up. Post some pics! I just dug it out of the safe. Probably take some photos tomorrow with better light. The receiver is code 147 and year 1940. Besides the Israeli markings it has "GB" on the side of the receiver. If I remember correctly that means that it was in Sweden or one of the Scandinavian countries at some point. Too cool! In for the pics and the answers. |
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View Quote Done |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/188236/20210217_071426-1829099.jpg Getting more and more opportunities to get rid of this one. View Quote @ablearcher I'm still looking. Hit me up if you are serious. |
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A few poor quality photos of my Israeli k98. Hoping someone can help decipher.
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Quoted: A few poor quality photos of my Israeli k98. Hoping someone can help decipher. View Quote Your K98k was originally made by J. P. Sauer & Sohn in 1940, under a contract for the Swedish military. It would have been originally produced in 7.92x57mm (8mm Mauser) but rechambered before use by the Swedes into 8x63mm caliber, for issue to Swedish machine gun team members whose MGs were in 8x63mm so they could share ammo. The Swedes referred to these rifles as the "Gevär m/40". Sweden's m/40 rifles were later surplused and sold to the Israelis in 1948, who later rebarreled all their various K98k and K98k-like Mauser rifles into 7.62 NATO in the 1950s, for use by second-line and reserve troops alongside the IDF's primary FN FAL rifles. They marked the receivers and stocks with prominent "7.62" markings, to ensure that the correct ammo was used with these converted Mausers. The GB stamp on the left side of the receiver is an inspection stamp by the Swedish inspector Gustaf Bjorkenstam. Other m/40s are marked SS for Sten Stenmo. The Star of David and circle stamps with Hebrew letters within are Israeli markings. The original Nazi eagle proof mark next to the serial number has been chiseled off by the Israelis. (These are a cool little subset of the Israeli Mauser family, and should command a small premium compared to a more typical Israeli K98k of the same condition.) |
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Got mine back when Clinton was President. Never selling mine.
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@RogueJSK
Thanks for taking the time to type out a detailed explanation! The photo of your k98's is very nice. I've been collecting M1 Garands for over 20 years and am fairly knowledgable in them. Along the way I have been trying to pick up a decent example of other milsurps that I'm interested in. I was confident that someone would chime in with the info on my Israeli k98. Thanks again. |
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Quoted: Your K98k was originally made by J. P. Sauer & Sohn in 1940, under a contract for the Swedish military. It would have been originally produced in 7.92x57mm (8mm Mauser) but rechambered before use by the Swedes into 8x63mm caliber, for issue to Swedish machine gun team members whose MGs were in 8x63mm so they could share ammo. The Swedes referred to these rifles as the "Gevär m/40". Sweden's m/40 rifles were later surplused and sold to the Israelis in 1948, who later rebarreled all their various K98k and K98k-like Mauser rifles into 7.62 NATO in the 1950s, for use by second-line and reserve troops alongside the IDF's primary FN FAL rifles. They marked the receivers and stocks with prominent "7.62" markings, to ensure that the correct ammo was used with these converted Mausers. The GB stamp on the left side of the receiver is an inspection stamp by the Swedish inspector Gustaf Bjorkenstam. Other m/40s are marked SS for Sten Stenmo. The Star of David and circle stamps with Hebrew letters within are Israeli markings. The original Nazi eagle proof mark next to the serial number has been chiseled off by the Israelis. (These are a cool little subset of the Israeli Mauser family, and should command a small premium compared to a more typical Israeli K98k of the same condition.) View Quote Too cool! I just read about the swede guns. I'd love to have one with that history. |
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Quoted: Here's mine, along with some of my other K98ks. (It's the bottom one.) https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/2298/xrdsyp.jpg Mine's one of the rifles that came in via Guatamala a while back. The exterior metal's got a decent amount of patina due to less than ideal storage during its stint in Central America, which is common for rifles from this batch, but it still shoots just fine. It's from the Israeli rifle contract with FN, produced with the IDF crest on the receiver. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/3171/IMQZ1W.jpg View Quote Nice! |
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Quoted: Paid more than I care for, but it's a clean one & came with the goodies. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/239279/Resized_20210219_142728-1833161.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/239279/Resized_20210219_142750-1833162.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/239279/Resized_20210219_142832-1833163.jpg The bayonet is a 1936 dated s/172 in near mint condition. Mismatched scabbard and frog unfortunately. Israeli grenade launcher adapter, proper cleaning kit, & wooden chamber cleaner. Israeli sling & leeper too. Also got the original receipt from when it shipped from Armscorp on 19 November 1985. Theres been a few on gunbroker in the last few months that are real similar, go around $1500 & up. That's without goodies. The last 7.62 Israeli mauser I had was 10 years ago & was a beat to shit South American example I got for 2 bills. It'd shoot minute of barn... Somedays. View Quote That is a good looking gun |
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Does anyone have info on the gewehr 98s being converted to 7.62?
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Quoted: Does anyone have info on the gewehr 98s being converted to 7.62? View Quote The Israelis had acquired whatever surplus Mauser 98 rifles they could get their hands on in the late 1940s and early/mid 1950s, along with ordering batches of new production M1930s from FN and new production VZ98Ns from Czechoslovakia. Then starting in the mid/late 1950s, the various Mauser 98s that the Israelis had on hand were converted to 7.62 NATO and standardized into K98k-style configuration. So in addition to the surplus WW2 German K98k rifles and postwar production FN and Czech rifles that make up the vast majority of 7.62 NATO caliber IDF Mausers, you'll also occasionally see one made from another Mauser receiver from a rifle such as the G98, Czech Vz. 24 or G24t, Polish Wz. 29 or G29/40, Ethiopian-contract FN M1930, or the aforementioned Swedish m/40. (Note that an IDF Mauser with a G98 receiver wasn't necessarily a full-sized G98 long rifle that was converted by the Israelis... During WW2, some G98 receivers were recycled into K98k configuration by the Germans. So the Israelis may have very well originally received it already in K98k configuration to begin with.) |
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Quoted: The Israelis had acquired whatever surplus Mauser 98 rifles they could get their hands on in the late 1940s and early/mid 1950s, along with ordering batches of new production M1930s from FN and new production VZ98Ns from Czechoslovakia. Then starting in the mid/late 1950s, the various Mauser 98s that the Israelis had on hand were converted to 7.62 NATO and standardized into K98k-style configuration. So in addition to the surplus WW2 German K98k rifles and postwar production FN and Czech rifles that make up the vast majority of 7.62 NATO caliber IDF Mausers, you'll also occasionally see one made from another Mauser receiver from a rifle such as the G98, Czech Vz. 24 or G24t, Polish Wz. 29 or G29/40, Ethiopian-contract FN M1930, or the aforementioned Swedish m/40. (Note that an IDF Mauser with a G98 receiver wasn't necessarily a full-sized G98 long rifle that was converted by the Israelis... During WW2, some G98 receivers were recycled into K98k configuration by the Germans. So the Israelis may have very well originally received it already in K98k configuration to begin with.) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Does anyone have info on the gewehr 98s being converted to 7.62? The Israelis had acquired whatever surplus Mauser 98 rifles they could get their hands on in the late 1940s and early/mid 1950s, along with ordering batches of new production M1930s from FN and new production VZ98Ns from Czechoslovakia. Then starting in the mid/late 1950s, the various Mauser 98s that the Israelis had on hand were converted to 7.62 NATO and standardized into K98k-style configuration. So in addition to the surplus WW2 German K98k rifles and postwar production FN and Czech rifles that make up the vast majority of 7.62 NATO caliber IDF Mausers, you'll also occasionally see one made from another Mauser receiver from a rifle such as the G98, Czech Vz. 24 or G24t, Polish Wz. 29 or G29/40, Ethiopian-contract FN M1930, or the aforementioned Swedish m/40. (Note that an IDF Mauser with a G98 receiver wasn't necessarily a full-sized G98 long rifle that was converted by the Israelis... During WW2, some G98 receivers were recycled into K98k configuration by the Germans. So the Israelis may have very well originally received it already in K98k configuration to begin with.) Excellent info. Thanks |
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Are there any good sites to help you decipher receiver markings?
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