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Posted: 2/14/2021 2:06:43 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/14/2021 8:18:20 PM EDT
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I sold one last late last year.  It was an FN contract in 7.62NATO.  It was matching bolt to receiver which were the only numbers on it.  It was nice but it was taking up space and tying up money.
Link Posted: 2/14/2021 9:43:53 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/14/2021 10:46:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/15/2021 12:55:26 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/15/2021 1:32:31 AM EDT
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I'd like one as well.

Nothing says irony like an Israeli and Nazi marked Mauser.
Link Posted: 2/15/2021 2:44:04 AM EDT
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I've got one on layaway that I should be picking up this week.

The prices for them on gunbroker have gone full retard. Several nasty Guatemala rifles have gone for a almost a grand in the last month. A few nice Erma built guns & Fn built guns have gone north of $1400.
Link Posted: 2/15/2021 9:00:09 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/15/2021 10:26:02 AM EDT
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You are going to have a hard time finding one for under $900. They haven’t imported them in years so it’s not like they are in stock somewhere. Your best chance is to find one at a shop or a show where they haven’t kept up on prices. That gets harder to do every day.
Link Posted: 2/15/2021 12:44:04 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/15/2021 5:32:52 PM EDT
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Decent Mauser of any kind is a big investment these days.  Even Yugos can top $500.
Link Posted: 2/15/2021 6:17:05 PM EDT
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This right here in a nut shell. I'm a cheap ass myself  & I love to haggle with people.  What's the worst that happens? You get something cheaper or asking price or not at all. I've walked out of many a gun shop with a for far less than asking price because they were sick of looking at it& wanted to cash out.

I will say that the Israeli k98 I'm getting is the priciest mauser I've ever bought at just shy of a grand. But in excellent condition (not one of the Guatemala guns), & has a nice wartime bayonet,  grenade launcher, & some other assorted extras that made it worth it to me. They're also as hard to come by as hens teeth around here.
Link Posted: 2/16/2021 12:20:31 AM EDT
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Mine is FN manufacture.


OP your best bet is to hit up gun shows and ask around there too.

Most auction sites will attract the people that will pay high prices.
Link Posted: 2/16/2021 12:31:32 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/16/2021 12:41:42 AM EDT
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The show those weekend had none. I will try at the spring show
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Mine is FN manufacture.


OP your best bet is to hit up gun shows and ask around there too.

Most auction sites will attract the people that will pay high prices.


The show those weekend had none. I will try at the spring show

you might have to hit 20 shows to find one

If you come to Tulsa in Apr or Nov (if they aren't canceled) you most likely will find one.
Link Posted: 2/16/2021 7:29:42 AM EDT
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Keep an eye on empire arms website and sign up for his mailing list.
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Yes, good suggestion.

I think you can email him and get on a list for one as well.

I won't be a steal, but he won't rape you either.   It will be $700-$1000 from him.
Link Posted: 2/16/2021 6:45:35 PM EDT
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About 10 or 12 years ago I was searching for a nice k98 and bought an Israeli k98 as a
placeholder.  A couple of years later I found a nice all German k98.   I've been meaning
to post some photos of the Israeli so you guys can tell me about it.

I had planned to sell the Israeli till I picked up a Israeli High Power, they make such a nice
pair that I don't know if I want to split them up.

Link Posted: 2/16/2021 6:51:36 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/16/2021 7:43:41 PM EDT
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Post some pics!
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About 10 or 12 years ago I was searching for a nice k98 and bought an Israeli k98 as a
placeholder.  A couple of years later I found a nice all German k98.   I've been meaning
to post some photos of the Israeli so you guys can tell me about it.

I had planned to sell the Israeli till I picked up a Israeli High Power, they make such a nice
pair that I don't know if I want to split them up.



Post some pics!


I just dug it out of the safe. Probably take some photos tomorrow with better light.

The receiver is code 147 and year 1940. Besides the Israeli markings it has "GB" on the side of the
receiver.  If I remember correctly that means that it was in Sweden or one of the Scandinavian countries
at some point.

Link Posted: 2/16/2021 8:21:01 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/16/2021 10:19:23 PM EDT
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Another source, joining the mailing list is recommended.

https://www.allans-armory.com/aa.php
Link Posted: 2/16/2021 10:57:23 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/17/2021 10:00:58 AM EDT
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Getting more and more opportunities to get rid of this one.
Link Posted: 2/17/2021 10:34:25 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/17/2021 1:30:44 PM EDT
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A few poor quality photos of my Israeli k98.  Hoping someone can help decipher.

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Link Posted: 2/17/2021 3:43:53 PM EDT
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A few poor quality photos of my Israeli k98.  Hoping someone can help decipher.
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Your K98k was originally made by J. P. Sauer & Sohn in 1940, under a contract for the Swedish military.  It would have been originally produced in 7.92x57mm (8mm Mauser) but rechambered before use by the Swedes into 8x63mm caliber, for issue to Swedish machine gun team members whose MGs were in 8x63mm so they could share ammo.  The Swedes referred to these rifles as the "Gevär m/40".  Sweden's m/40 rifles were later surplused and sold to the Israelis in 1948, who later rebarreled all their various K98k and K98k-like Mauser rifles into 7.62 NATO in the 1950s, for use by second-line and reserve troops alongside the IDF's primary FN FAL rifles.  They marked the receivers and stocks with prominent "7.62" markings, to ensure that the correct ammo was used with these converted Mausers.

The GB stamp on the left side of the receiver is an inspection stamp by the Swedish inspector Gustaf Bjorkenstam.  Other m/40s are marked SS for Sten Stenmo.

The Star of David and circle stamps with Hebrew letters within are Israeli markings.  The original Nazi eagle proof mark next to the serial number has been chiseled off by the Israelis.

(These are a cool little subset of the Israeli Mauser family, and should command a small premium compared to a more typical Israeli K98k of the same condition.)
Link Posted: 2/17/2021 4:16:07 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/17/2021 4:19:06 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/17/2021 4:43:18 PM EDT
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Here's mine, along with some of my other K98ks.  (It's the bottom one.)



Mine's one of the rifles that came in via Guatamala a while back.  The exterior metal's got a decent amount of patina due to less than ideal storage during its stint in Central America, which is common for rifles from this batch, but it still shoots just fine.  It's from the Israeli rifle contract with FN, produced with the IDF crest on the receiver.

Link Posted: 2/17/2021 5:09:21 PM EDT
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@RogueJSK

Thanks for taking the time to type out a detailed explanation!
The photo of your k98's is very nice.

I've been collecting M1 Garands for over 20 years and am fairly knowledgable
in them.  Along the way I have been trying to pick up a decent example of other
milsurps that I'm interested in.

I was confident that someone would chime in with the info on my Israeli k98.

Thanks again.
Link Posted: 2/17/2021 7:46:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/17/2021 8:14:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/20/2021 5:28:55 AM EDT
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Paid more than I care for, but it's a clean one & came with the goodies.







The bayonet is a 1936 dated s/172 in near mint condition.  Mismatched scabbard and frog unfortunately.  Israeli grenade launcher adapter,  proper cleaning kit, & wooden chamber cleaner.  Israeli sling & leeper too.

Also got the original receipt from when it shipped from Armscorp on 19 November 1985.

Theres been a few on gunbroker in the last few months that are real similar, go around $1500 & up. That's without goodies.

The last 7.62 Israeli mauser I had was 10 years ago & was a beat to shit South American example I got for 2 bills.  It'd shoot minute of barn... Somedays.
Link Posted: 2/20/2021 8:58:05 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/21/2021 12:11:14 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/21/2021 2:49:18 PM EDT
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The Israelis had acquired whatever surplus Mauser 98 rifles they could get their hands on in the late 1940s and early/mid 1950s, along with ordering batches of new production M1930s from FN and new production VZ98Ns from Czechoslovakia.  Then starting in the mid/late 1950s, the various Mauser 98s that the Israelis had on hand were converted to 7.62 NATO and standardized into K98k-style configuration.  So in addition to the surplus WW2 German K98k rifles and postwar production FN and Czech rifles that make up the vast majority of 7.62 NATO caliber IDF Mausers, you'll also occasionally see one made from another Mauser receiver from a rifle such as the G98, Czech Vz. 24 or G24t, Polish Wz. 29 or G29/40, Ethiopian-contract FN M1930, or the aforementioned Swedish m/40.

(Note that an IDF Mauser with a G98 receiver wasn't necessarily a full-sized G98 long rifle that was converted by the Israelis... During WW2, some G98 receivers were recycled into K98k configuration by the Germans.  So the Israelis may have very well originally received it already in K98k configuration to begin with.)
Link Posted: 2/21/2021 4:56:36 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/21/2021 10:31:11 PM EDT
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