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Posted: 3/21/2012 4:35:42 AM EDT
This is a technical forum intended for discussion of tactical gear. It is NOT a venue for endless pissing matches about whether John Willis/OSOE(or any other individual or company) is a great guy or a thief. There's a feedback thread here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_109/929579_John_Willis__OSOE.html where you can discuss John's ethics as much as you'd like or, if you feel the need to have a whole new discussion about it, there's a perfect place for it here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/f_1/5_General_Discussion.html. It's understood that you can't(and shouldn't) completely cut out such discussion, even in a techincal forum, but this is not the place for lengthy arguments about it.
Please feel free to discuss John Willis' gear as much as you like, but do so with the understanding that this is a forum intended for the discussion of tactical gear and not intended for a bunch of fucking purse swinging and fanboys vs. haters bullshit. Threads that can't stay on topic will be moved to more appropriate subforums or removed completely and members who can't conduct themselves appropriately in here will be sanctioned. |
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Posted: 3/21/2012 5:06:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TaskForce]
It should be perfectly acceptable to discuss a tactical gear company in a tactical gear forum. It's actually a public service when we out a bad gear maker.
If you own a bunch of SOE gear, that's cool. I work with a lot of guys with SOE gear. They also don't want to hear the truth, so you're not alone. |
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Posted: 3/21/2012 5:24:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: joker581]
Originally Posted By Blacktide: It should be perfectly acceptable to discuss a tactical gear company in a tactical gear forum. It's actually a public service when we out a bad gear maker. If you own a bunch of SOE gear, that's cool. I work with a lot of guys with SOE gear. They also don't want to hear the truth, so you're not alone. It's acceptable here too, within reasonable limits, and I said as much in my post. There's even a link to his negative feedback thread where he's been "outed" in this tacked thread at the top of the gear forum. What's not acceptable are threads with multiple pages of arguing over whether someone's present business practices outweigh his past failures or attacks on the credibility of members who support or denounce some other member's gear guru. Feel free to read my posts in the feedback thread I linked or do some research in the archieves if you think I'm some Willis partisan who's trying to shield him from criticism. I'm pretty sure that after the lawsuit threats and such, John Willis and I are never going to be homeboys. |
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Posted: 3/21/2012 5:34:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TaskForce]
Originally Posted By joker581:
Originally Posted By Blacktide:
It should be perfectly acceptable to discuss a tactical gear company in a tactical gear forum. It's actually a public service when we out a bad gear maker. If you own a bunch of SOE gear, that's cool. I work with a lot of guys with SOE gear. They also don't want to hear the truth, so you're not alone. It's acceptable here too, within reasonable limits, and I said as much in my post. There's even a link to his negative feedback thread where he's been "outed" in this tacked thread at the top of the gear forum. What's not acceptable are threads with multiple pages of arguing over whether someone's present business practices outweigh his past failures or attacks on the credibility of members who support or denounce some other member's gear guru. Feel free to read my posts in the feedback thread I linked or do some research in the archieves if you think I'm some Willis partisan who's trying to shield him from criticism. I'm pretty sure that after the lawsuit threats and such, John Willis and I are never going to be homeboys. I wasn't referring to you personally, rather I was generally referring to the fanboys. |
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Posted: 3/21/2012 11:35:20 AM EDT
Aw what did I miss
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Posted: 3/21/2012 1:01:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By NapeSticksToKids:
Aw what did I miss A good pissin' match. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1302634_iphone_pouch.html |
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Posted: 3/21/2012 8:33:24 PM EDT
Good move, Joker and I appreciate your objectivity regardless of your personal opinions on OSOE and John Willis. I value this forum very much for the information it provides. Regardless of who makes it, if it is something I need or may want - I come here first to learn about it.
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Posted: 3/23/2012 2:50:59 PM EDT
Just had a chat with John, seems like a good guy. The vast majority of his business goes to military, so it just sounds like his BS tolerance is low for mall ninjas.
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Posted: 3/23/2012 5:29:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: joker581]
Originally Posted By osha: Just had a chat with John, seems like a good guy. The vast majority of his business goes to military, so it just sounds like his BS tolerance is low for mall ninjas. Although his Facebook posts about airsofters and "mall ninjas" do seem to get a lot of people stirred up, that's not the polarizing issue that people are typically disrupting threads to discuss in here. |
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Posted: 6/10/2012 10:39:28 AM EDT
i want buy SOE vest
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Posted: 6/24/2012 3:07:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By situ11:
i want buy SOE vest You won't be disappointed. John |
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Posted: 9/21/2012 8:16:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: joker581]
Edited-joker581 Please start a seperate thread for discussions of gear, sales, etc. |
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Posted: 9/21/2012 9:19:06 PM EDT
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