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Posted: 1/18/2021 7:49:03 PM EDT
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I was going to say....
1. Adjust failsafe bar correctly 2. Polish inside of funnel 3. Dryer sheet But the most important thing? Slow down. When the ram is fully raised, count to 3 then move on. See if the problem still exists. Picture of failsafe bar spring when ram is fully lowered and you are pushing forward to seat a primer? |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 7:50:43 PM EDT
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Hmmm,.......something is not right My 650 runs H335 fine without spilling. I'd look for something broken, or assembled wrong |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 7:56:13 PM EDT
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I've been loading on a 650 for ~20 yrs and haven't had this happen. Like was said, maybe slow down and/or check that your bench is rock solid.
In for the results. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 7:56:24 PM EDT
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Small amounts of powder can actually collect around the case mouth (thickness of the brass). I have seen this when using plastic powder funnels with a hole that is slightly larger than the case mouth. Make sure the hole in the powder die is just a tad smaller than the case mouth opening. Maybe the sleeve is not the correct size.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 8:11:08 PM EDT
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I'll echo pausing at the bottom of each stroke.
Also, take the powder funnel out and clean it with brake cleaner of you didn't do so initially to remove any oils that could be causing powder to stick in the funnel. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 8:28:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was going to say.... 1. Adjust failsafe bar correctly 2. Polish inside of funnel 3. Dryer sheet But the most important thing? Slow down. When the ram is fully raised, count to 3 then move on. See if the problem still exists. Picture of failsafe bar spring when ram is fully lowered and you are pushing forward to seat a primer? Ok so after some testing if I slow down and count to two when the Ram is fully raised. And I go slow coming down no powder spill if I come down fast with the Ram I get the leakage is that normal? |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 8:44:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok so after some testing if I slow down and count to two when the Ram is fully raised. And I go slow coming down no powder spill if I come down fast with the Ram I get the leakage is that normal? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was going to say.... 1. Adjust failsafe bar correctly 2. Polish inside of funnel 3. Dryer sheet But the most important thing? Slow down. When the ram is fully raised, count to 3 then move on. See if the problem still exists. Picture of failsafe bar spring when ram is fully lowered and you are pushing forward to seat a primer? Ok so after some testing if I slow down and count to two when the Ram is fully raised. And I go slow coming down no powder spill if I come down fast with the Ram I get the leakage is that normal? I’m not sure because I always go slow when loading rifle |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 9:03:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok so after some testing if I slow down and count to two when the Ram is fully raised. And I go slow coming down no powder spill if I come down fast with the Ram I get the leakage is that normal? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was going to say.... 1. Adjust failsafe bar correctly 2. Polish inside of funnel 3. Dryer sheet But the most important thing? Slow down. When the ram is fully raised, count to 3 then move on. See if the problem still exists. Picture of failsafe bar spring when ram is fully lowered and you are pushing forward to seat a primer? Ok so after some testing if I slow down and count to two when the Ram is fully raised. And I go slow coming down no powder spill if I come down fast with the Ram I get the leakage is that normal? It's normal as you have to give ~25gr of powder enough time to flow through a 22 caliber hole. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 9:12:48 PM EDT
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Stall for a 3 count during the drop.
What powder? |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 9:55:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stall for a 3 count during the drop. What powder? Hodgon h335 |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 9:57:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's normal as you have to give ~25gr of powder enough time to flow through a 22 caliber hole. But it seems to not have to do with waiting at the top it’s all dependent on how fast/slow I come down with the Ram after waiting 2-3 missipi |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:45:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was going to say.... 1. Adjust failsafe bar correctly 2. Polish inside of funnel 3. Dryer sheet But the most important thing? Slow down. When the ram is fully raised, count to 3 then move on. See if the problem still exists. Picture of failsafe bar spring when ram is fully lowered and you are pushing forward to seat a primer? You have to give the powder time to flow through that tiny 22 cal case neck. If you don't, not all the powder makes it into the case, so you get light charges and spilled powder. Just part of learning how to run a progressive. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:46:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok so after some testing if I slow down and count to two when the Ram is fully raised. And I go slow coming down no powder spill if I come down fast with the Ram I get the leakage is that normal? |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 12:52:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, operator error. Thanks I’ll slow down I’ve only loaded 9mm on it so far and definitely didn’t have to go that slow on the down stroke. |
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Posted: 1/19/2021 1:13:09 AM EDT
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Yeah you're not using NEARLY the amount of powder on 9 that you do with 223. Slowing down helped stop it for my on my 550 when I was the FNG.
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Posted: 1/19/2021 5:20:28 PM EDT
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For rifle rounds, I attach a small aquarium pump to the plastic hopper with a rubber band. The vibration assists power moving through the drop. This is more critical with stick powders.
Also, keep things around there free of case lube.  You don't need to go that fast to hit the 1000 round per hour spec. And, with .223, for the shear cost of ammo right now, you can afford to go a bit slower, knowing how much money you are saving each time you pull the handle.  
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Posted: 1/19/2021 8:09:14 PM EDT
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If you using Fail link,, watch the bar as it return with case coming down,,,,,,,,,,,,, watch to see if bar stalls briefly while platform and case still come down out / off powder funnel... see powder fall out before bar slaps the last little bit home...
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Posted: 1/20/2021 2:57:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmmm,.......something is not right My 650 runs H335 fine without spilling. I'd look for something broken, or assembled wrong I am using WC844 and no issues with the large powder bar. I only hesitate and certainly don't wait 3 seconds during the stroke of the press mine is maybe 1 second and a smooth advance on the speed of the shell plate. Double check everything. Maybe some slop between the powder bar and the actual powder funnel body? |
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:01:17 PM EDT
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Not running a 650 but the 550 if I run to fast will dribble a bit as above have mentioned.
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Posted: 1/20/2021 3:02:32 PM EDT
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It’s all fixed now I’m pretty sure it was mostly me just going to fast but maybe it was a combination of the “tricks” above ^
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