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Posted: 6/23/2018 2:45:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The problem was that they announced that it would have the forward ejection which was a keynote feature. If, and I stress IF, they ran into production/refinement issues post-announcement, the very same people who are whipping them like a dead horse would be doing the same thing to them because it didn't have forward ejection. The system obviously works because people have rifles that function as advertised. There has to be something else other than design that is at fault here. |
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Posted: 6/23/2018 3:33:07 PM EDT
[#2]
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I only waited a year for mine and was at the range the week I got it. I guess shooting for some isn't as much a priority as collecting. Even though I had traded mine within a month I must say it did get me excited/interested in shooting again after a long layoff from shooting, if that's all I got from it (as well as the LMT MWS I traded it for) I am forever grateful to DT. It had so much promise, hopefully it will live up to it all in the end. |
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Posted: 6/23/2018 4:43:17 PM EDT
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I am in the same pickle as you were...do I trade off my trusty LMT MWS for one of these 308 bullpups or not....time will tell... After a couple of range trips with the MDR, I realized I wasn't 25 anymore and wouldn't be humping a 308 battle rifle that is over 10lbs with mag and optics around . I needed more of a static platform not a agile compact Bullpup. |
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Posted: 6/23/2018 6:17:29 PM EDT
[#4]
Well...I've decided to give a SCAR17 a try so putting my LMT up for trade for one...we shall see...might regret that decision.
I love the fact how easily I can clean the chamber and swap barrels on the LMT (if needed). |
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Posted: 6/26/2018 9:13:54 PM EDT
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Picked up my pre-order FDE .308 MDR today, but it'll be a while before I have time to get to a range to see if I got a dud or not. The hand guard retaining pin capture wire is very tight, had to press it back a bit with a screwdriver and tap the pin out with the torque wrench to retract and again to seat it when assembled.
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Posted: 6/26/2018 9:27:31 PM EDT
[#6]
Is the mag release stiff?
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Posted: 6/26/2018 9:31:00 PM EDT
[#7]
Yes, compared to my Tavor and AR pattern rifles anyways but this one is nowhere near as stiff as I've read reports of. It's not unreasonably difficult to push with a single finger from either side or the trigger style release at the magazine.
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Posted: 6/26/2018 11:52:24 PM EDT
[#8]
Good. Maybe they are getting better at it.
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Posted: 6/27/2018 1:03:42 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Is the mag release stiff? Jesse. |
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Posted: 6/27/2018 1:31:28 PM EDT
[#10]
I see big daddy unlimited is showing them as in stock. I’ve been “next on the list” for my preorder for 6 months now. Don’t want to cancel as it seems no one gets their money back either.
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Posted: 6/27/2018 1:32:08 PM EDT
[#11]
That is where I have a big problem with the MDR...it shouldnt be this picky with ammo...period.
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Posted: 6/27/2018 1:52:30 PM EDT
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I’m still waiting on my group buy refund from 6+ weeks ago. I talked with him again on Friday and he was supposed to get back with me Saturday. He seems like a nice guy and I’m trying to be understanding, but the next call will be less friendly than this one. I shouldn’t have to call multiple times and send half a dozen emails to get a refund from this mess.
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Posted: 6/27/2018 1:53:27 PM EDT
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That is where I have a big problem with the MDR...it shouldnt be this picky with ammo...period. I have not looked at what the .308 and 7.62 max and min dimensions for the chamber cut is for the neck, But I feel that the neck could use a little extra material removed, once the shells started to expand to the 2.012" area that is when the rims started to become damaged once it get the 2.015 for expended case length all bets where off on extraction. And this was all from 7.62 NATO STG 58 ammo |
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Posted: 6/27/2018 2:22:47 PM EDT
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I do not disagree but .308 chamber shouldn't have a problem running 7.62x51...especially when the rifle is designated from the manufacturer as a battle rifle...that is all I am saying.
You should be able to use 7.62x51 in a 308 chamber....you shouldn't use 308 in a 7.62x51 chamber. I do not have experience with the Stg58...only the Malaysian L2A2 with my LMT...and it eats it like a boss with decent accuracy actually. Usually I just use Aguila 7.62x51 in the LMT. I am happy to see reports of MDRs not choking trickling in here and there...that is a great sign... |
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Posted: 6/27/2018 3:16:57 PM EDT
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I think that given all their hype about its rigorous military testing and how it’s being demoed to military customers, it’s pretty reasonable to expect it to shoot 7.62 military ammo.
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Posted: 6/27/2018 6:05:53 PM EDT
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I think that given all their hype about its rigorous military testing and how it’s being demoed to military customers, it’s pretty reasonable to expect it to shoot 7.62 military ammo. |
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Posted: 6/27/2018 6:10:47 PM EDT
[#17]
Tool...a wooden rod with a hammer...
I have thought long and hard to bite the bullet and trade my LMT MWS for a MDR. Put it through its paces and see if it breaks with me or not...everytime I want to do it...I am reminded that my LMT eats Malaysian crap ammo on the cheap. |
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Posted: 6/27/2018 7:30:06 PM EDT
[#18]
I say tool in the general sense. If you don't have a cleaning rod or similar you're done until you get one. It's a failure that you're not going to correct with just your hands.
ETA maybe they'll offer an attachment to keep a stuck case clearing rod right on the gun.
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Posted: 6/27/2018 8:12:16 PM EDT
[#19]
I know what you meant. Just poking a little fun.
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Posted: 6/29/2018 4:51:08 PM EDT
[#20]
Update from Desert Tech:
Desert Tech MDR Update TLDR: 6 position gas valve will be a standard feature, it will be free to anyone who has an MDR, and you will be credited if you have already purchased one. |
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Posted: 6/29/2018 9:11:07 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Update from Desert Tech: Desert Tech MDR Update TLDR: 6 position gas valve will be a standard feature, it will be free to anyone who has an MDR, and you will be credited if you have already purchased one. |
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Posted: 7/1/2018 11:10:17 AM EDT
[#22]
Still standing by for that 19"+ model in 6.5CM; in a proven reliably platform that shoots 1 MOA or better. Considering what a bumpy ride the entire MDR ride has been, I've stopped following it, and this is the first time in months I've even looked at an MDR related thread. From the looks of it, my offering of interest is year(s) away still (if ever).
Ah well. |
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Posted: 7/2/2018 2:02:02 AM EDT
[#23]
It’s july
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Posted: 7/14/2018 9:27:38 AM EDT
[#24]
placed an order for mdr in march 2018 with a delivery date of jun 23 2018, from jun 23 to july7 it was sent to my FFL , during the time I ordered a 6.5 creedmoor barrel from a 3rd party barrel maker got the barrel last week in june , i know people have been waiting for mdr for a while but i got one in a 4 month wait time not too bad.
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Posted: 7/14/2018 10:58:51 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
placed an order for mdr in march 2018 with a delivery date of jun 23 2018, from jun 23 to july7 it was sent to my FFL , during the time I ordered a 6.5 creedmoor barrel from a 3rd party barrel maker got the barrel last week in june , i know people have been waiting for mdr for a while but i got one in a 4 month wait time not too bad. |
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Posted: 7/14/2018 11:18:17 AM EDT
[#26]
I am still trying to get my fucking deposit back from the group buy pre-order....gonna make one more attempt this week then will pursue other options
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Posted: 7/14/2018 11:53:12 AM EDT
[#27]
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I am still trying to get my fucking deposit back from the group buy pre-order....gonna make one more attempt this week then will pursue other options |
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Posted: 7/14/2018 2:29:39 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I am still trying to get my fucking deposit back from the group buy pre-order....gonna make one more attempt this week then will pursue other options |
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Posted: 7/14/2018 10:11:12 PM EDT
[#29]
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Got mine yesterday after a couple phone conversations, several emails, a few im’s, and finally a very blunt final email. This was over the course of several months. Jon seems like a nice guy when talking on the phone, but getting a refund was unnecessarily difficult. |
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Posted: 7/16/2018 9:56:24 AM EDT
[#30]
and that is why I don't do group buys and pre-orders cause pre-orders are money for the widget/ startup capital!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 7/16/2018 10:27:03 AM EDT
[#31]
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Took me a couple months and a dozen or so emails/IMs. This was over a year ago, but how on earth is communication that difficult? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Got mine yesterday after a couple phone conversations, several emails, a few im’s, and finally a very blunt final email. This was over the course of several months. Jon seems like a nice guy when talking on the phone, but getting a refund was unnecessarily difficult. I doubt there's a communication issue, I expect the poor schmuck who organized the Group Buy and forwarded everyone's money to Desertion Types is equally desperately trying to get his/their money back - probably with success rates equal to or below that of our own members. |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 8:58:05 AM EDT
[#32]
Tim from Military Arms Channel mentions in his latest MDR video the 556 kits are out, is that statement true or is he mistaken?
 New OSS HX QD762 Silencer and MDR |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 11:23:46 AM EDT
[#33]
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Tim from Military Arms Channel mentions in his latest MDR video the 556 kits are out, is that statement true or is he mistaken?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY1r5a_SZBc |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 4:27:07 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've seen one in person here in Montana, apparently a company here is already selling them, or the complete .223 Wylde MDR at least. |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 9:44:53 PM EDT
[#35]
Coworker brought in his MDR this morning to let me handle it. Holy hell is that thing tail heavy! Feels like someone crushed an M1 Garand and stuffed it in the ass end of the stock.
I asked the coworker if he hid a concrete block back there. Looks well made though. The length of the mag release where it catches the mag body seems to be the problem with it sticking. |
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Posted: 7/20/2018 9:10:27 AM EDT
[#36]
All bullups are more biased towards the rear. In a way...a great thing.
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Posted: 7/20/2018 11:23:58 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You know what you saw or didn't see, so I'm not going to discuss that or the fact that there's been no announcement that they're shipping. Beyond that, I think whoever created the website you linked to made some programming mistakes as they have "4" units available and that's regardless of the color or caliber chosen; black or FDE, or .308, .223, or .300BLK. I think they're just "jumping the gun". Quote HistoryQuoted: You know what you saw or didn't see, so I'm not going to discuss that or the fact that there's been no announcement that they're shipping. Beyond that, I think whoever created the website you linked to made some programming mistakes as they have "4" units available and that's regardless of the color or caliber chosen; black or FDE, or .308, .223, or .300BLK. I think they're just "jumping the gun". Quoted:
All bullups are more biased towards the rear. In a way...a great thing. |
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Posted: 7/20/2018 3:31:42 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
All bullups are more biased towards the rear. In a way...a great thing. |
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Posted: 7/20/2018 5:53:55 PM EDT
[#39]
Well it is a 308...just like a AR10 vs AR15...a proper, quality AR10 will be heavier than a similar AR15.
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Posted: 7/20/2018 6:24:44 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, 5.56 cases were coming out, and I talked to the owner about it. He mentioned having bought it through Montana Tactical. Either he made the conversion himself and lied, he bought it elsewhere and lied as to where, or that's where he got it. I have no money in this game, but for those looking for a conversion kit, that seems to be a place to start. For what it might matter, Montana Tactical seems to have a decent local reputation. |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 12:00:23 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: According to someone who is known to work for DT, no .223 kits have shipped. |
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Posted: 7/21/2018 7:55:01 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are kits going to ship before / with / after complete .223 rifles? |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 7:49:27 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
I don't know, but logic would dictate that they won't be shipping kits until all the backorders are filled. 
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Posted: 7/23/2018 8:40:40 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Filling backorders that are already paid for doesn't bring in more money... 
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Posted: 7/25/2018 9:48:53 PM EDT
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Alrighty another 300 rounds of hornady down and I had two issues, both look like a double feed. Both happened on the same mag. It was a magpul grey follower 308 mag. Not sure if that’s relevant but the red follower mags and lancers have been running smooth. Just a odd note as it’s been good up till that range session. Just got a box of 260 pmc bronze from freedom that I will run this weekend or next depending on when a buddy has work. After that I am going to try somthing new unless I find a deal. No ripped cases yet. I think I should have video of it from a go pro if it’s of interest but I need to get it on the pc to see. I did take it out with the scar17, which overall is softer shooting then the mdr.
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Posted: 7/25/2018 10:08:13 PM EDT
[#46]
Last I heard about mine almost 2 weeks ago was the action spring was kinked so they replaced it. Haven't had issues with stuck cases or the scissor panel coming loose like I was starting to. IDK. Whatever.
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Posted: 8/4/2018 12:46:50 PM EDT
[#47]
Got it back again the other day. Unboxed and looked it over. It's going back again. 3rd time's the charm?
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Posted: 8/4/2018 12:49:24 PM EDT
[#48]
Well if the other site is anything to go by, if it shoots a 100 rounds at the range you'll have every Tom, Dick and Harry praising the MDR as a reliable, proven "battle rifle".
Lol. Hope third time's a charm for you. |
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Posted: 8/4/2018 5:16:18 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Got it back again the other day. Unboxed and looked it over. It's going back again. 3rd time's the charm? Looks like I'll be keeping my LMT MWS for a long time...T7 is having issues being released...wonder why... |
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Posted: 8/4/2018 6:07:57 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What the freak is wrong with it this time? Looks like I'll be keeping my LMT MWS for a long time...T7 is having issues being released...wonder why... |
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