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I had an accountant from DT contact me stating they have changed banks and the check I received has been voided. He said a new check is in the mail.

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I had an accountant from DT contact me stating they have changed banks and the check I received has been voided. He said a new check is in the mail.

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I had an accountant from DT contact me stating they have changed banks and the check I received has been voided. He said a new check is in the mail.

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@cowboywubwub
It's January bro!

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Not gonna lie, I'm having trouble thinking of titles that aren't gonna get me in trouble for shitposting in a technical forum. I'll do my best, and if anybody has January title suggestions, throw em at me.

I wonder if if/when DT gets their act together, they'll do a .224 Valkyrie? 6.8 SPC was on the original plans so it's not too far off base.

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Given that the Atrax thread got shut down for a lot less, I'm surprised this is still breathing.

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Think I got it. I do hope this all gets sorted out this year. I'd love to have an MDR-C or at least a .223 full size gun. I'm not much for battle rifles, nor do I have a lot of use for long range semi autos, so the carbines are what I'd really like to get a chance to try out.

Our November 2017 update stated that our expectation was to ship a small batch or two of MDR’s prior to February and then move to high volume production in late February 2018.

Shortly after this update went out, we received news from our MIM supplier stating that they were able to speed up the schedule of the MDR side panels, allowing a sooner than expected ramp up. This information was not announced publicly but was released to our customers on the direct pre-order list and many of our dealers.

Most recently, a situation beyond the control of Desert Tech and our MIM supplier arose that postponed the time line of the December batch. The issue lies with the foreign government where our MIM supplier is located.  It has recently instated more stringent export regulations on firearms parts.  The added scrutiny put a freeze on firearm parts being exported from the country, requiring our MIM supplier to jump through additional, unforeseen hoops of bureaucratic regulation to export firearm parts to the US. These new regulations were not unique to Desert Tech and affected many U.S. Firearms manufacturers.

Over the past few weeks, Desert Tech teamed up with our MIM supplier and several large U.S. firearms manufacturers to present a case to the foreign government, requesting relief from these added regulations. Thankfully, with the help of all involved, their government ruled in our favor, has released the parts and noted additional considerations will be made in future regulations.

These parts were scheduled to arrive in December. We now expect they will arrive by the end of next week (January 12th).

While we await the arrival of these parts, MDRs are being assembled (see attached pictures and video on our Facebook page) and are only waiting on these parts for final testing. Once the parts arrive, they will be finished, installed and tested in the assembled MDR’s, then packed & shipped.

We are hopeful that our next shipments will begin in late January and that we will transition to high volume by the end of February.

Our internal goal is to have all MDR .308 Rifle preorders filled before the end of April 2018.

On another note.

I’m Super excited to inform you that our testing of the .223 MDR is on track and we remain hopeful to meet our current timeline. We will have fully functioning .223 MDR’s at Shot Show Range Day; along with a couple of surprises in our booth that will add even more excitement to the MDR.

If you are going to Shot Show, stop by our booth (#31502). If not, stay up to date via Facebook, Twitter & Instagram and talk to your local Desert Tech Dealer for the latest MDR info.

Sincerely,

Carson Jenkins
Director of Marketing
Desert Tech LLC

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Holy crap.

Honestly at this point I'd have a lawyer contact them.

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Just got another email from DT about further delays, and this a month or so after they changed my February 2018 expected ship date forwards to January 2018:

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Maybe it’s been said already...

MDR = The “new Tool album” of firearms

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I thought they stated that they were making those parts that were missing in house since they had issues with the MIM supplier? It's in one of their statements that they would be making them in house and shipping the rifles.

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They were going to machine as many as they could in house until the min parts showed up.

MDR shipping update January 5, 2018
Dear Valued Customers,

Our November 2017 update stated that our expectation was to ship a small batch or two of MDR’s prior to February and then move to high volume production in late February 2018.
Shortly after this update went out, we received news from our MIM supplier stating that they were able to speed up the schedule of the MDR side panels, allowing a sooner than expected ramp up. This information was not announced publicly but was released to our customers on the direct pre-order list and many of our dealers.

Most recently, a situation beyond the control of Desert Tech and our MIM supplier arose that postponed the time line of the December batch. The issue lies with the foreign government where our MIM supplier is located. It has recently instated more stringent export regulations on firearms parts. The added scrutiny put a freeze on firearm parts being exported from the country, requiring our MIM supplier to jump through additional, unforeseen hoops of bureaucratic regulation to export firearm parts to the US. These new regulations were not unique to Desert Tech and affected many U.S. Firearms manufacturers.

Over the past few weeks, Desert Tech teamed up with our MIM supplier and several large U.S. firearms manufacturers to present a case to the foreign government, requesting relief from these added regulations. Thankfully, with the help of all involved, their government ruled in our favor, has released the parts and noted additional considerations will be made in future regulations.
These parts were scheduled to arrive in December. We now expect they will arrive by the end of next week (January 12th).
While we await the arrival of these parts, MDRs are being assembled and are only waiting on these parts for final testing. Once the parts arrive, they will be finished, installed and tested in the assembled MDR’s, then packed & shipped.

We are hopeful that our next shipments will begin in late January and that we will transition to high volume by the end of February.
Our internal goal is to have all MDR .308 Rifle preorders filled before the end of April 2018.

On another note.

I’m Super excited to inform you that our testing of the .223 MDR is on track and we remain hopeful to meet our current timeline. We will have fully functioning .223 MDR’s at Shot Show Range Day; along with a couple of surprises in our booth that will add even more excitement to the MDR.

If you are going to Shot Show, stop by our booth (#31502). If not, stay up to date via Facebook, Twitter & Instagram and talk to your local Desert Tech Dealer for the latest MDR info.

Sincerely,
Carson Jenkins
Director of Marketing
Desert Tech LLC

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The main reason they aren't shipping very many MDR's is because they can't get them to run right.  The MIM thing is an excuse because they can't work bugs out of the design.

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The main reason they aren't shipping very many MDR's is because they can't get them to run right.  The MIM thing is an excuse because they can't work bugs out of the design.

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Their FB says they finally got their foreign-made MIM parts in (doesn’t that phrase just scream quality), and can presumably now ship out more MDRs. They may even get into the double digits this shipment from the look of the picture, potentially exponentially raising the number of MDRs in the wild.

At least until “the parts were out of spec, two more weeks, now featuring more international espionage and intrigue!”

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I've been busy with work and a 7mm SAUM bolt gun.  It's crazy to see nothing has changed.  It seems like 5 guys have a MDR, another few returned them, and there are still supplier problems.  They cannot pay bills it's that easy.  It's bizarre that they changed bank accounts while handing out refunds from said account. I'm sure there's a reason and it's probably not an innocent reason.  I'm glad I didn't drop preorder money on this conflagration known as DT and the MDR.

Has the service to their bolt customers been affected too?I used to want one but the whole MDR fiasco makes me want to stay far far away.

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I’m mostly giving them shit, I don’t really care if their ejection chute thing is MIM, though I know a lot will. I own a lot of firearms that have more critical MIM components, as you’ve listed above.

It’ll be interesting to see what their new excuse is for production delays, production numbers, and reliability issues are in the coming days. Industrial espionage by IWI to sell more of their ‘objectively inferior’ Tavor?

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Given that the Atrax thread got shut down for a lot less, I'm surprised this is still breathing.

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Yea, I think DT knows if they are beat to the market by a big name like iwi it will be very problematic for them.

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Yea, I think DT knows if they are beat to the market by a big name like iwi it will be is very problematic for them.

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I like options. I wanted to see the DT succeed. I didn't ever think it was going to go the way it did. I wanted one but was not going to be on the initial run. I've bought too many things in my life to have the first of it's kind , and wound up having problems due to teething issues that were usually worked out in later models. I've always been impressed with the DT bolt action guns.

After this fiasco, I don't know if I'd want one, I'd have to see the follow up after a couple of years and see what's going on. It's sort of pissed me off to see how they've treated customers. I grew up in sales and it's totally avoidable.

On another note, I know it's still cold in a lot of the country, but has the guy that posted earlier, or any other regular Joe been able to shoot any groups with match ammo through their DTs?

At this point it's going to have to shoot cloverleafs, but if it does, it's still in the game.

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At this point, EVEN IF Desert Tech fixes the issues with their MDR, I think the best it can hope for is to be the Betamax of the old Betamax/VHS wars. Very slightly better, at significantly higher cost.

Even if they fix everything and deliver the exact rifle they promised, relative to the Tavor 7 it’ll just be a fraction of a pound lighter, a fraction of an MOA more accurate, but with a price tag >$500 higher.

Given IWI is holding firm with their early ‘18 release date as of ShotShow, and given their track record for producing high volume and high quality military-grade weaponry, I feel DT’s goose is cooked here and the writing is on the wall.

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I like options. I wanted to see the DT succeed. I didn't ever think it was going to go the way it did. I wanted one but was not going to be on the initial run. I've bought too many things in my life to have the first of it's kind , and wound up having problems due to teething issues that were usually worked out in later models. I've always been impressed with the DT bolt action guns.

After this fiasco, I don't know if I'd want one, I'd have to see the follow up after a couple of years and see what's going on. It's sort of pissed me off to see how they've treated customers. I grew up in sales and it's totally avoidable.

On another note, I know it's still cold in a lot of the country, but has the guy that posted earlier, or any other regular Joe been able to shoot any groups with match ammo through their DTs?

At this point it's going to have to shoot cloverleafs, but if it does, it's still in the game.