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Link Posted: 3/22/2020 12:03:22 PM EDT
any update on your MDRX?  

couple of quick questions that are preventing me from going forward with my purchase:
how is the mag release?  owners of the gen1 guns pretty universally stated the forward mag release was stiff and I wondered if the polymer lower was adding drag to the complex bar mechanism.  updated plastic in the lower could be designed to help with this?
are the takedown pins still really stiff?

thanks,
Eric
Link Posted: 3/22/2020 2:21:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By schlaiek:
any update on your MDRX?  

couple of quick questions that are preventing me from going forward with my purchase:
how is the mag release?  owners of the gen1 guns pretty universally stated the forward mag release was stiff and I wondered if the polymer lower was adding drag to the complex bar mechanism.  updated plastic in the lower could be designed to help with this?
are the takedown pins still really stiff?

thanks,
Eric
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So a couple offers up front, anyone in az who wants to check it out in good meeting up and if you want any specific videos let me know as I have a go pro I’m trying to keep tabs on all the bullpups while we test and compare them. Another thing g to consider is that my gen1 was one of the first and it was in 308 which went through all the upgrades insluding 3 different gas blocks where my mdrx or gen2 is a 556 sitting basically stock. No new range updates as ammo is becoming hard to find and prices are basically doubling so I am keeping my stock where it is right now. That said since updates gen1 had zero issues and mdrx has had zero issues. Polymer feels stiffer, I can’t flex it like I could on the gen 1 where there was some movement. The takedown pins on the receiver are way easier and I can actually Do them with a bullet where before I needed a punch set. That said the pin on the handguard on the mdrx still needs a punch, I am hopeful it will loosen as it was very dry so maybe a little live and we’re good there but with this handguard having the cut out I don’t see the need to take it off much. Also the setting won’t need to be changed from my understanding as the manual has a big sticker saying no brake in needed where the gen1 wanted adverse up front to brake in. The mag release on both as far as stiffness goes is perfect on the rear, front left harder and front right hardest. This was the same on both but where it changes is the gen1 required me to shift my grip until it started to loosen up the mdrx does not. Stiff yes but not problematic like gen1. I have no way to measure the strength needed but it’s not an issue on the x where it was on the gen1. I currently have more issues with the stock aug release than the mdrx. Below is the only pin I can’t do with just a bullet. Also no brake in needed in manual although the manual and case are pretty much exact same which makes sense. No x designation outside of the receiver next to serial number Attachment Attached File
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Link Posted: 3/22/2020 4:54:58 PM EDT
thanks for the answers - if I wasn't on the other side of the country I'd take you up on your offer.  I think I'll order one tomorrow.  it's only money right?
Link Posted: 3/23/2020 12:40:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By schlaiek:
thanks for the answers - if I wasn't on the other side of the country I'd take you up on your offer.  I think I'll order one tomorrow.  it's only money right?
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That is true. I just generally like bullpups. Don’t get me wrong I enjoy ar15/ak style as much as the next guy but with the laws as they are I see a real benefit in the bullpup design. Unfortunately the list of bullpups that are supported here is pretty short and while I like the aug and the x95 neither really maintains all of the modern feature sets I like where the mdr appears to be going for it. As long as the mdrx stays reliable I will be very happy with it and I am looking into the 6.5 for hunting as well. My 308 ar10 is more of a bench gun and I’ve never been much of a fan of the scar17.
Link Posted: 3/27/2020 2:07:44 AM EDT
So messing around on the atf website and it looks like DT made 613 guns before the mdr and 2018 they made just over 2000, now I wonder what this last year will be and will look when that is released but is that full growth (or near it) entirely the mdr or did they just get popular from the press and their other rifles sold? Basically does Anyone know how much of DT is the mdr vs their other product lines? Reason I ask is I thought I had heard awhile back half of everything they made was mdr. I also assume that 2019 will be higher since 2018 was just ramping up and fulfilling preorders as well as getting the 556 out.
Link Posted: 3/27/2020 9:38:26 AM EDT
That can't be right. My gen 2 srs is in the 22xx range and I have to think they sold a bunch more a1s than gen 1 and 2 put together
Link Posted: 3/27/2020 10:42:23 AM EDT
I picked up my MDRX in 556 yesterday - my serial is in the mid 4000s for whatever that's worth.

the fit & finish is quite nice, as it should be at it's price point.

now if only my scope would arrive - for now an aimpoint pro will have to suffice.
Link Posted: 3/27/2020 12:11:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By newguy2k3:
That can't be right. My gen 2 srs is in the 22xx range and I have to think they sold a bunch more a1s than gen 1 and 2 put together
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No clue, happy to be proved wrong but serial numbers typically don’t start at 1, desert tech might but generally they often don’t. often they start in thousands to my understanding. You can have one rifle say 1xxx and another 2xxx and they never made more than a couple hundred but the change denominated country it went to or change in design. My mdr was 300 range and my mdrx is 3100 range. All that said I know numbers don’t count on atf site if they didn’t make the receiver as a few local companies that do their own rifle are buying the lowers so it shows 0 even though they sell to local PDs a lot and have a good name. All this said maybe I’m a dumbass here and reading it wrong. Again happy to be proved wrong so I can figure it out, I thought those numbers were low but then again the cost of every other desert tech and their accessories could keep a company going on that few
Link Posted: 3/27/2020 12:12:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By schlaiek:
I picked up my MDRX in 556 yesterday - my serial is in the mid 4000s for whatever that's worth.

the fit & finish is quite nice, as it should be at it's price point.

now if only my scope would arrive - for now an aimpoint pro will have to suffice.
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Nothing wrong with that. I prefer a red dot, I went down the scope (1-4/1-8) route and was never as fast as I am with the red dot so I put those on the hunting guns and left the red dot for two gun runs out to 250 yards, not an issue so far. I got mine not terribly long ago and I’m 3100 range so maybe they are pumping them out quickly. Nothing wrong with fit or finish except the pin for the rail.
Link Posted: 3/27/2020 12:27:57 PM EDT
I don't spend my time playing with split timers, but I appreciate/prefer the flexibility of a LVPO.  I pre-ordered a Vortex R3 1-10 - the magnification is a good fit for this setup as I'll be switching between 6.5 creed (or 6 creed if I can find a barrel) and 556.
Link Posted: 3/27/2020 9:39:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kwisak:
So messing around on the atf website and it looks like DT made 613 guns before the mdr and 2018 they made just over 2000, now I wonder what this last year will be and will look when that is released but is that full growth (or near it) entirely the mdr or did they just get popular from the press and their other rifles sold? Basically does Anyone know how much of DT is the mdr vs their other product lines? Reason I ask is I thought I had heard awhile back half of everything they made was mdr. I also assume that 2019 will be higher since 2018 was just ramping up and fulfilling preorders as well as getting the 556 out.
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I could've sworn that I read they won a few contracts within the last year for bolt guns.  That'll bump up the numbers a bit.
Link Posted: 3/27/2020 10:12:27 PM EDT
it's anecdotal data, but when I first bought a DT SRS about 6 years ago they were definitely must less common to seem them in the wild or in online representation.  They certainly aren't as common as R700s, Ruger RPRs, and Savage 10s, but they seem to be selling better.  There are now at least a handful of dealers in MN that will carry them, though you won't always find them out on display.  their offerings are definitely a niche in an already small community (bullpup lovers).
Link Posted: 3/28/2020 4:25:11 PM EDT
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That’s true, I think they have only been around for about 12 years or so, coming up with the stuff they have done is pretty cool considering the timeline. Anyway gonna go do another 200 rounds tomorrow on the mdrx and if I can get more ammo! More next Friday. This ammo crunch is nuts right now.
Link Posted: 4/3/2020 5:07:54 PM EDT
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More rounds down range of iwi 556. Shot the aug next to the mdrx today too. Mdrx does shoot way more flat but the aug is much more comfortable to run with. You really notice the extra weight on your wrist since the aug is more balanced compared to the mdrx. However a sling should help both but the drills were without a sling. The groupings weren’t great but I think I was able to do a little better with the mdrx. I put that up to shooting rapid and less muzzle rise on the mdrx. These were standing on running drills around 50 yards.Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 4/5/2020 9:00:31 PM EDT
Is there any option available to change out the handgrip? Magpie doesn't seem to have anything?
Link Posted: 4/5/2020 9:25:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By heron163:
Is there any option available to change out the handgrip? Magpie doesn't seem to have anything?
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Three I know of, desert tech standard, desert tech suppressor handguard, and a aftermarket aluminum version(short for regular use and long for suppressor use).  There was talk about a longer stock rail for the 20in barrels but DT has also stated they won’t announce anything until it’s ready to ship now so not sure on that. Attachment Attached File
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Link Posted: 4/5/2020 9:30:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By heron163:
Is there any option available to change out the handgrip? Magpie doesn't seem to have anything?
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Whoops, I am a dumbass there, thought you said handguard. Gonna leave last post since it’s still might be helpful for someone. Nothing for the grip I know of however it can be switched. Possible someone is making a grip as it’s removable but nothing has come on market. Only thing I would like different is more of a rubber style of grip, that said I don’t think DT makes enough for magpul to do anything yet. Maybe I’ll check how a ar seats tonight although I’m in pretty sure it won’t go well maybe worth a check. Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 4/5/2020 10:12:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Kwisak:

Whoops, I am a dumbass there, thought you said handguard. Gonna leave last post since it’s still might be helpful for someone. Nothing for the grip I know of however it can be switched. Possible someone is making a grip as it’s removable but nothing has come on market. Only thing I would like different is more of a rubber style of grip, that said I don’t think DT makes enough for magpul to do anything yet. Maybe I’ll check how a ar seats tonight although I’m in pretty sure it won’t go well maybe worth a check. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/448154/052D182C-0045-49AE-99FC-B6F8D0CBC07E_jpe-1353174.JPG
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lol "magpie" spell check strikes again

no worries - I have tried fitting up different grips - not even close to an AR and did not seem possible to dremel...
Link Posted: 4/5/2020 11:19:56 PM EDT
the grip is replaceable, but I'm not aware of any aftermarket options.  I'd like to see a cutlass style grip to go a little old-school Aug vibe.
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