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Posted: 10/21/2022 12:00:03 AM EDT
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I would track down a CZ model 527 to rebarrel.
Another option for a small action is a SAKO Vixen. There are plenty that have been used up and ready for a refresh. Either action would make a dandy .30 Carbine rifle. I'm not a fan of Ruger model 77 rifles, but I'll admit I want to check out a 77/44. Converting a magazine will be a challenge. Reworking a .17 HMR magazine might be possible. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 7:33:51 AM EDT
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You can do almost anything with enough money. The important question is usually "Why?".
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Posted: 10/23/2022 12:18:33 AM EDT
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By rechambered do you mean rebarreled?
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Posted: 10/23/2022 12:48:28 AM EDT
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Wasn't there a lever action .30 Carbine?
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Posted: 10/23/2022 1:03:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would track down a CZ model 527 to rebarrel. Another option for a small action is a SAKO Vixen. There are plenty that have been used up and ready for a refresh. Either action would make a dandy .30 Carbine rifle. I'm not a fan of Ruger model 77 rifles, but I'll admit I want to check out a 77/44. Converting a magazine will be a challenge. Reworking a .17 HMR magazine might be possible. I don't quite follow. I would think an existing .30 Carbine mag like an M-1 or AMT mag would be far more suitable. Or 3-D print a single stack or Mannlicher mag. |
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Posted: 10/23/2022 5:22:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wasn't there a lever action .30 Carbine? Yes, the Marlin 62 Levermatic  Excellent Marlin Model 62 |
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Posted: 10/23/2022 7:31:30 AM EDT
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I get that some folks just want something different but this wish is kind of out there.
Got to be pretty spendy to get a custom 308 barrel and fit it up to a bolt gun and beating together a magazine that works could kill the whole project. How is anything that results from these dreams going to be any better than a good old fashioned GI M1carbine? |
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Posted: 10/23/2022 9:13:55 AM EDT
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In addition to the new barrel and (likely custom) magazine, the bolt is also going to need work since the .30 carbine is rimless and a lot smaller than either .357 or .44. Not sure exactly what the bolt face looks like; it may be impossible. Since it's a smaller bolt face, the bolt modification may involve welding it up and re-machining, which would be iffy on the (presumably) cast bolt. Then you get to figure out how to get it to extract and eject. If it's even possible, you'd be looking at a few thousand dollars very easily.
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Posted: 10/23/2022 10:51:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't quite follow. I would think an existing .30 Carbine mag like an M-1 or AMT mag would be far more suitable. Or 3-D print a single stack or Mannlicher mag. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I would track down a CZ model 527 to rebarrel. Another option for a small action is a SAKO Vixen. There are plenty that have been used up and ready for a refresh. Either action would make a dandy .30 Carbine rifle. I'm not a fan of Ruger model 77 rifles, but I'll admit I want to check out a 77/44. Converting a magazine will be a challenge. Reworking a .17 HMR magazine might be possible. I don't quite follow. I would think an existing .30 Carbine mag like an M-1 or AMT mag would be far more suitable. Or 3-D print a single stack or Mannlicher mag. A .30 Carbine magazine could be adapted by redesigning the "bottom metal", but I think looking at a printed adapter is worthwhile. Either case is a fairly large redesign and testing problem. Maybe a printed conversion core for a Ruger magazine. Machine a new bolt head designed to be soldered to the Ruger bolt body. If the Ruger bolt is two pieces, that's a head start. |
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Posted: 10/23/2022 12:44:03 PM EDT
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OP, what about just getting an undrilled carbine bbl, and poof, you have a smooth operating straight pull bolt action, no mess, no fuss.
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Posted: 10/23/2022 1:27:39 PM EDT
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Been done to a Remington Mdl 7 in .223, , it looked pretty straightforward. Not sure WHY though.
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Posted: 10/23/2022 1:46:08 PM EDT
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If you rub it with enough money. Near anything is possible.
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Posted: 10/23/2022 8:23:46 PM EDT
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Quoted: OP, what about just getting an undrilled carbine bbl, and poof, you have a smooth operating straight pull bolt action, no mess, no fuss. Quoted: Been done to a Remington Mdl 7 in .223, , it looked pretty straightforward. Not sure WHY though.  But the COALs seemed like they would be close enough on paper to justify asking. This is by far one of the lesser idiotic things I've asked on this website. |
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Posted: 10/25/2022 6:04:01 PM EDT
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Not sure about the 30 Carbine but I have a 77/44 that I had rebarrelled and chambered in 357 x 44 Bain & Davis and it's a super nice shooter. Never hurts to dream, mine came true.
Steve........ |
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Posted: 1/10/2023 7:47:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/10/2023 12:08:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't quite follow. I would think an existing .30 Carbine mag like an M-1 or AMT mag would be far more suitable. Or 3-D print a single stack or Mannlicher mag. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I would track down a CZ model 527 to rebarrel. Another option for a small action is a SAKO Vixen. There are plenty that have been used up and ready for a refresh. Either action would make a dandy .30 Carbine rifle. I'm not a fan of Ruger model 77 rifles, but I'll admit I want to check out a 77/44. Converting a magazine will be a challenge. Reworking a .17 HMR magazine might be possible. I don't quite follow. I would think an existing .30 Carbine mag like an M-1 or AMT mag would be far more suitable. Or 3-D print a single stack or Mannlicher mag. I own a rifle in an Elisio stock that uses a five round machined magazine that uses two screws to adjust function. It's simple and it works, so that is also an option. My only complaint is the wimpy feel of the follower spring. |
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Posted: 1/10/2023 1:25:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/10/2023 1:28:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Start with a magazine designed for the action. I own a rifle in an Elisio stock that uses a five round machined magazine that uses two screws to adjust function. It's simple and it works, so that is also an option. My only complaint is the wimpy feel of the follower spring. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I would track down a CZ model 527 to rebarrel. Another option for a small action is a SAKO Vixen. There are plenty that have been used up and ready for a refresh. Either action would make a dandy .30 Carbine rifle. I'm not a fan of Ruger model 77 rifles, but I'll admit I want to check out a 77/44. Converting a magazine will be a challenge. Reworking a .17 HMR magazine might be possible. I don't quite follow. I would think an existing .30 Carbine mag like an M-1 or AMT mag would be far more suitable. Or 3-D print a single stack or Mannlicher mag. Start with a magazine designed for the action. I own a rifle in an Elisio stock that uses a five round machined magazine that uses two screws to adjust function. It's simple and it works, so that is also an option. My only complaint is the wimpy feel of the follower spring. I would suggest starting w/ a magazine designed for the cartridge, then see how an adapter might fit that magazine to an existing action. The little Ruger American has recently been adapted to AK mags, might start w/ the Ruger American in .300 Blackout, have a new bbl made, and 3-D print a magwell adapter for Carbine mags, OP. |
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Posted: 1/10/2023 4:09:09 PM EDT
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A 223 bolt face will be a lot closer than the 357 or 44 one would. And you can get a Howa Mini in 223 for a lot less than a 77/357 or /44 is worth...
That said.... do you like the 30 carbine specifically? Or do you like the idea of a 110ish grain 30 caliber bullet moving at about 2000fps and the 30 carbine just happens to provide that? 'Cause that is awful close to low end 300 blackout ballistics and getting a working bolt gun, etc there is really trivial.... |
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Posted: 1/10/2023 4:37:15 PM EDT
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Well that's horrifying.
 Quoted: A 223 bolt face will be a lot closer than the 357 or 44 one would. And you can get a Howa Mini in 223 for a lot less than a 77/357 or /44 is worth... That said.... do you like the 30 carbine specifically? Or do you like the idea of a 110ish grain 30 caliber bullet moving at about 2000fps and the 30 carbine just happens to provide that? 'Cause that is awful close to low end 300 blackout ballistics and getting a working bolt gun, etc there is really trivial.... |
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