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You could donate it to me, I’ll shoot it.
ETA: I’ve always really wanted one, but I honestly don’t think they’re worth what they cost. I wouldn’t have that kind of cash tied up in a rifle like that if it didn’t have some kind of history to it. |
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Save up and buy used. It's doable. Hang out over on the M14 Forum and nice guns pop up there all the time for good prices.
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You could donate it to me, I’ll shoot it. ETA: I’ve always really wanted one, but I honestly don’t think they’re worth what they cost. I wouldn’t have that kind of cash tied up in a rifle like that if it didn’t have some kind of history to it. You can get an older used SAI for around $1200. |
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So you paid like $1,500 for that JRA?
It's hard to imagine having that much invested since most of my M14-type rifles cost half that, but they're Chinese. If you can get your money back, I would go ahead and sell it. I predict the market share will only get smaller for M14 type rifles. At $1,500 you're over halfway to a SCAR 17, which is superior in every way except historical nature. You said you don't really appreciate a milsurp feel with this JRA, so I don't think you'd be missing out on anything. I personally like the feel, handling, and performance of the M14 more than the M1 Garand (which is partly because of my exposure to the M14 in Marine JROTC). I struggled with the thought of getting a Garand for a while, because that same money would fetch me another M14 (or something else) but knew I wanted one for their historical significance. Finally I found a deal on a '44 Winchester for $600 (came with ammo and clips). This was back in 2011. Eventually I'll get a good deal on a SCAR 17, and have the best modern battle rifle as well. I guess I'm just not as into battle rifles as when I was a teenager. I obtained most of the classics (FAL, G3, M14, M1, SVT40, K98k, M1903, M91/30) but I got into assault rifles, SMGs, and belt-feds. Those are usually more fun. I do still enjoy medium to long range position shooting with BRs on occasion. And the M14A1 when I want the retro, full recoil, Commie-slayer. I think you'd like a short version if you do keep an M14-type, although I don't own one personally. They handle well, but I like clones of issued guns (or the actual issued guns. Even better.) I voted get what you want, whatever that is. YOLO! |
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I’ve had all three versions of the Springfield M1A, the standard, the scout, and the Socom.
I’ve sold the scout but I still have the standard and the Socom. I’ve sold the scout but I still have the standard and the shorter Socom. I love the short rifle the best, it is the handiest and the funnest to shoot and still has great range. My vote is get the shorter one that you really want. You won’t be disappointed. |
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So you paid like $1,500 for that JRA? It's hard to imagine having that much invested since most of my M14-type rifles cost half that, but they're Chinese. If you can get your money back, I would go ahead and sell it. I predict the market share will only get smaller for M14 type rifles. At $1,500 you're over halfway to a SCAR 17, which is superior in every way except historical nature. You said you don't really appreciate a milsurp feel with this JRA, so I don't think you'd be missing out on anything. I personally like the feel, handling, and performance of the M14 more than the M1 Garand (which is partly because of my exposure to the M14 in Marine JROTC). I struggled with the thought of getting a Garand for a while, because that same money would fetch me another M14 (or something else) but knew I wanted one for their historical significance. Finally I found a deal on a '44 Winchester for $600 (came with ammo and clips). This was back in 2011. Eventually I'll get a good deal on a SCAR 17, and have the best modern battle rifle as well. I guess I'm just not as into battle rifles as when I was a teenager. I obtained most of the classics (FAL, G3, M14, M1, SVT40, K98k, M1903, M91/30) but I got into assault rifles, SMGs, and belt-feds. Those are usually more fun. I do still enjoy medium to long range position shooting with BRs on occasion. And the M14A1 when I want the retro, full recoil, Commie-slayer. I think you'd like a short version if you do keep an M14-type, although I don't own one personally. They handle well, but I like clones of issued guns (or the actual issued guns. Even better.) I voted get what you want, whatever that is. YOLO! View Quote Man, I'd save for a SCAR in a heartbeat if I could get one locally for under $3k. I'm just not seeing it though. That's my dream rifle. As cool as the M1/M14/M1As are, you can't deny that something like the 17S would be a better all-around gun in any real-world scenario. |
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Save up and buy used. It's doable. Hang out over on the M14 Forum and nice guns pop up there all the time for good prices. Yeah, they're pricey. I've had more in ARs, so perhaps my conception of "too much" is skewed. I expect tough, reliable guns to cost over $1000. You can get an older used SAI for around $1200. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You could donate it to me, I’ll shoot it. ETA: I’ve always really wanted one, but I honestly don’t think they’re worth what they cost. I wouldn’t have that kind of cash tied up in a rifle like that if it didn’t have some kind of history to it. You can get an older used SAI for around $1200. An all original Vietnam era M14 built on a quality semi receiver, sure. A newly manufactured copy? Meh. |
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I’ve got over 2k in one of my ARs, so it isn’t so much cost as it is value, in my eyes. An all original Vietnam era M14 built on a quality semi receiver, sure. A newly manufactured copy? Meh. View Quote the new manu parts on the Bula and LRB's are equal to if not better than GI stuff from that era, and Springfield does not build a bad rifle |
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you realize they are basically the same, right? the new manu parts on the Bula and LRB's are equal to if not better than GI stuff from that era, and Springfield does not build a bad rifle View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I’ve got over 2k in one of my ARs, so it isn’t so much cost as it is value, in my eyes. An all original Vietnam era M14 built on a quality semi receiver, sure. A newly manufactured copy? Meh. the new manu parts on the Bula and LRB's are equal to if not better than GI stuff from that era, and Springfield does not build a bad rifle |
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Man, I'd save for a SCAR in a heartbeat if I could get one locally for under $3k. I'm just not seeing it though. That's my dream rifle. As cool as the M1/M14/M1As are, you can't deny that something like the 17S would be a better all-around gun in any real-world scenario. View Quote I guess I'm spoiled because I can have most stuff shipped straight to work (if the shipper cooperates). |
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While I voted to keep it, it's your money, your rifles, and your choice. If you like it, keep it. If you want something more than it and can't afford both, then sell it. I'm betting you're younger than 40. Seems like the younger folks are more driven to follow what others tell them they should like or should do or should think than any other generation in a long time. You shouldn't make decisions about your life based on what other people say or do. It's your life, not theirs. Live it your way.
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So you paid like $1,500 for that JRA? It's hard to imagine having that much invested since most of my M14-type rifles cost half that, but they're Chinese. If you can get your money back, I would go ahead and sell it. I predict the market share will only get smaller for M14 type rifles. At $1,500 you're over halfway to a SCAR 17, which is superior in every way except historical nature. You said you don't really appreciate a milsurp feel with this JRA, so I don't think you'd be missing out on anything. I personally like the feel, handling, and performance of the M14 more than the M1 Garand (which is partly because of my exposure to the M14 in Marine JROTC). I struggled with the thought of getting a Garand for a while, because that same money would fetch me another M14 (or something else) but knew I wanted one for their historical significance. Finally I found a deal on a '44 Winchester for $600 (came with ammo and clips). This was back in 2011. Eventually I'll get a good deal on a SCAR 17, and have the best modern battle rifle as well. I guess I'm just not as into battle rifles as when I was a teenager. I obtained most of the classics (FAL, G3, M14, M1, SVT40, K98k, M1903, M91/30) but I got into assault rifles, SMGs, and belt-feds. Those are usually more fun. I do still enjoy medium to long range position shooting with BRs on occasion. And the M14A1 when I want the retro, full recoil, Commie-slayer. I think you'd like a short version if you do keep an M14-type, although I don't own one personally. They handle well, but I like clones of issued guns (or the actual issued guns. Even better.) I voted get what you want, whatever that is. YOLO! View Quote |
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While I voted to keep it, it's your money, your rifles, and your choice. If you like it, keep it. If you want something more than it and can't afford both, then sell it. I'm betting you're younger than 40. Seems like the younger folks are more driven to follow what others tell them they should like or should do or should think than any other generation in a long time. You shouldn't make decisions about your life based on what other people say or do. It's your life, not theirs. Live it your way. View Quote Perhaps its a generational thing; I think of it as prudence and acknowledgement that I don't always have all the information. |
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Why does it have to be local? Get it shipped. You can pick from the whole U.S. I guess I'm spoiled because I can have most stuff shipped straight to work (if the shipper cooperates). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If you can get your money back, I would go ahead and sell it. I predict the market share will only get smaller for M14 type rifles. At $1,500 you're over halfway to a SCAR 17, which is superior in every way except historical nature. You said you don't really appreciate a milsurp feel with this JRA, so I don't think you'd be missing out on anything. |
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I've had 7 of them, now down to 5: one each of the major manufacturers of the day (TRW, Springfield Armory, HRA, and Winchester as safe queens) and an extra Winchester to shoot.
I have contemplated selling several of them along with my trove of excellent USGI parts in order to fund new interests. There is a lot of money wrapped up in stuff my heirs will not appreciate. But then I conclude that I'm not hurting for the money, and the next ban may (somehow) exclude the M1A/M14 and I'll still have something battle worthy. So I hang on. In a perfect world, I might be inclined to sell them. Collecting rifles and mint parts was fun for several years, but I don't geek over the platform any more. |
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This. Those things are just so obscenely expensive now. Plus, most of the owners "upgrade" them to the point that they cost 2x and then refuse to part them out. The rifle's fine how it is. View Quote |
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The M14 is an inferior combat rifle. But it is a fun range rifle and enjoyable to shoot. Keep it. Buy more guns.
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The M14 is an inferior combat rifle. But it is a fun range rifle and enjoyable to shoot. Keep it. Buy more guns. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
The M14 is an inferior combat rifle. But it is a fun range rifle and enjoyable to shoot. Keep it. Buy more guns. Quoted:
A coworker bought a used 17S for $2,500 a couple months ago. It was bone stock, of course. |
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I've had 7 of them, now down to 5: one each of the major manufacturers of the day (TRW, Springfield Armory, HRA, and Winchester as safe queens) and an extra Winchester to shoot. I have contemplated selling several of them along with my trove of excellent USGI parts in order to fund new interests. There is a lot of money wrapped up in stuff my heirs will not appreciate. But then I conclude that I'm not hurting for the money, and the next ban may (somehow) exclude the M1A/M14 and I'll still have something battle worthy. So I hang on. In a perfect world, I might be inclined to sell them. Collecting rifles and mint parts was fun for several years, but I don't geek over the platform any more. View Quote |
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Say it this way, IMHO.....
For a TARGET rifle (w/military iron sights) the M1 and the M1a because of it's sights is the bee's knees. OK. IF, I could get over the stock configuration (pistol grip). Maybe, I could go for the M16 series. So then, scope shooting is not exactly what I want to do. But, it's not like I can see good enough anymore (at aged 60) for irons. OK, Ok, ok.......25 yards. LOL.* SCAR 17.....well, I've never owned one. Bottom Line : You'll have to make up your own mind, how you like to shoot and what works best for you. *I wonder if kids now a days can even shoot with irons. YES, I know that there are some. But given, that the military issues them a rifle with an optical sight.....maybe, they'll be lost without it? Not to mention, how to use a sling. Besides just as a carrying implement. Aloha, Mark |
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Say it this way, IMHO..... For a TARGET rifle (w/military iron sights) the M1 and the M1a because of it's sights is the bee's knees. OK. IF, I could get over the stock configuration (pistol grip). Maybe, I could go for the M16 series. So then, scope shooting is not exactly what I want to do. But, it's not like I can see good enough anymore (at aged 60) for irons. OK, Ok, ok.......25 yards. LOL.* SCAR 17.....well, I've never owned one. Bottom Line : You'll have to make up your own mind, how you like to shoot and what works best for you. *I wonder if kids now a days can even shoot with irons. YES, I know that there are some. But given, that the military issues them a rifle with an optical sight.....maybe, they'll be lost without it? Aloha, Mark View Quote |
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Keep it if you're a gun collector.
Ditch it if you don't collect and only keep guns around that you own for strictly utilitarian purposes. |
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I've had 7 of them, now down to 5: one each of the major manufacturers of the day (TRW, Springfield Armory, HRA, and Winchester as safe queens) and an extra Winchester to shoot. View Quote Are we talking about rifles with original receivers, welded-back-together receivers, or civilian receivers with parts from each maker? |
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I can't bring it upon myself to sell a gun. I can't give advice to anyone else to sell a gun. Buy guns!
Keep your M14. History piece. |
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If one owns an M1 rifle, it sort of seems natural to me to own an M14-type rifle too in the sense that one led to the development of the other and the latter compliments the former in a collection.
I say keep it. You purchased it to scratch some sort of itch you had, so you may as well hang on to it for now. You may develop a more thorough interest in it later on down the road, which has happened to me with other types of rifles. |
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Say it this way, IMHO..... For a TARGET rifle (w/military iron sights) the M1 and the M1a because of it's sights is the bee's knees. OK. IF, I could get over the stock configuration (pistol grip). Maybe, I could go for the M16 series. So then, scope shooting is not exactly what I want to do. But, it's not like I can see good enough anymore (at aged 60) for irons. OK, Ok, ok.......25 yards. LOL.* SCAR 17.....well, I've never owned one. Bottom Line : You'll have to make up your own mind, how you like to shoot and what works best for you. *I wonder if kids now a days can even shoot with irons. YES, I know that there are some. But given, that the military issues them a rifle with an optical sight.....maybe, they'll be lost without it? Not to mention, how to use a sling. Besides just as a carrying implement. Aloha, Mark View Quote |
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Impressive! Are we talking about rifles with original receivers, welded-back-together receivers, or civilian receivers with parts from each maker? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I've had 7 of them, now down to 5: one each of the major manufacturers of the day (TRW, Springfield Armory, HRA, and Winchester as safe queens) and an extra Winchester to shoot. Are we talking about rifles with original receivers, welded-back-together receivers, or civilian receivers with parts from each maker? ETA: And stocks. I have several walnut and birch stocks, some with good cartouches. |
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Nice!
Yeah man that's serious money now. Do you have any in A1 (or E2) configuration? |
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you say you are disappointed in the M1A. How many rds have you fired through it and what ammo are you using? The M1A should shoot as accurately as your Garand if not better
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I had a newish SA NM and didn't like the black painted look finish and lack of bayonet lug compared to my 1990 SA standard and offed it.
Too bad my GI bi-pod would dent my very nice E-2 stock where the feet rub it, so I never use the two together, but rather on my $10 GI fiberglass instead. Never fired a shot from the NM before I sold it. |
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Too bad my GI bi-pod would dent my very nice E-2 stock where the feet rub it, so I never use the two together, but rather on my $10 GI fiberglass instead. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Too bad my GI bi-pod would dent my very nice E-2 stock where the feet rub it, so I never use the two together, but rather on my $10 GI fiberglass instead. I prefer a fiberglass GI stock for actual field use (without any bipod). I had a newish SA NM and didn't like the black painted look finish and lack of bayonet lug compared to my 1990 SA standard and offed it. |
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If your not the sentimental type ditch it and get the shorter one you want. Me I went the opposite way. Had both a SOCOM II and a standard configuration, I got rid of the SOCOM II because I had other things that could do the same job and I like the classic M-14 clone look.
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I keep the black elastic keeper (that comes with a nylon BDU belt) on my stock to prevent that. It's anachronistic but doesn't look bad. I did fashion a clear plastic piece to prevent those dents in the E2 stock but found the fiberglass stock is less worrisome about damage. I prefer a fiberglass GI stock for actual field use (without any bipod). You could've just replaced the flash suppressor assembly and had the whole rifle parkerized. That's relatively inexpensive. View Quote My priority on what I like, what I want, what I have or what I need has changed quite a bit as old age sets in. |
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you say you are disappointed in the M1A. How many rds have you fired through it and what ammo are you using? The M1A should shoot as accurately as your Garand if not better View Quote It shoots fine, it just doesn't do anything better than the Garand, IMO. And since I'm not in battle the magazine isn't much of an improvement. My Garand shoots great, handles great, and has a historical pedigree. I've decided to put off a final decision until after my father-in-law gets to shoot it. He qualified with an M14 back in '68 before deploying to Vietnam. After that I'll see what I want to do; whatever happens I don't want to get something harder to sell. |
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Quoted: About 200rds of Malaysian 147gr surplus. I grouped 4" off a bench first time out. It shoots fine, it just doesn't do anything better than the Garand, IMO. And since I'm not in battle the magazine isn't much of an improvement. My Garand shoots great, handles great, and has a historical pedigree. I've decided to put off a final decision until after my father-in-law gets to shoot it. He qualified with an M14 back in '68 before deploying to Vietnam. After that I'll see what I want to do; whatever happens I don't want to get something harder to sell. View Quote |
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I have a M1A Socom and a M1. I had a M1A a few years back and stupidly sold it and regret it.
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I've always felt the same way when I had M1s and M1As concurrently, and have sold off the M1As for that reason. They don't really do anything better than the M1, and the M1 is cooler. I don't like having a $1500 paperweight in my safe. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: About 200rds of Malaysian 147gr surplus. I grouped 4" off a bench first time out. It shoots fine, it just doesn't do anything better than the Garand, IMO. And since I'm not in battle the magazine isn't much of an improvement. My Garand shoots great, handles great, and has a historical pedigree. I've decided to put off a final decision until after my father-in-law gets to shoot it. He qualified with an M14 back in '68 before deploying to Vietnam. After that I'll see what I want to do; whatever happens I don't want to get something harder to sell. |
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I have the JRA 22" Military Classic M14. I know it not made with USGI parts but looks nice and the parts were made by Bula Defense. It is a nice shooting rifle but I have fired it less than 100 rounds so far. I have downgraded the walnut hand guard to a fiberglass hand guard instead so I would not burn the walnut hand guard if I did a 20 round magazine dump. I thought I burned my hand guard was I did the mag dump but when I took it off the hard guard at home it was undamaged. I will keep the walnut hard guard just is in case I want to sell it but I consider my M14 a keeper.
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Wow the Scar 17 prices have gotten even stupider! Inferior plastic lower and fragile cheek riser. Extruded aluminum and plastic please.
If one is invested in M-14 type platform may as well ride it out. Those that are just getting into .308 battle rifles should get into AR-10’s or just get into the 6.5 Grendel and stick with the AR-15 types. 6.5 Grendel performs as well as 7.62x51 for almost anything. |
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Over the years I've bought a lot of guns that I was really excited to own until I actually owned them. A hung onto a few for longer than I should have. If you don't: have pride of ownership; enjoyment from shooting it; or need for it (self-defense, ranch use, etc) then ... why keep it?
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Wow the Scar 17 prices have gotten even stupider! Inferior plastic lower and fragile cheek riser. Extruded aluminum and plastic please. If one is invested in M-14 type platform may as well ride it out. Those that are just getting into .308 battle rifles should get into AR-10’s or just get into the 6.5 Grendel and stick with the AR-15 types. 6.5 Grendel performs as well as 7.62x51 for almost anything. View Quote Polymer parts? Check Factory adjustable cheek riser? Check Aluminum receiver? Check FN Quality? Check Lightweight? Check Accurate? Check Can be rebuilt without use of an armorer? Check The M14 is a neat gun, but you have to divorce emotion / affection from gun evaluations. Do you happen to own a Glock or is it "all 1911s" for you? FOR DISCLOSURE: I own all of the listed guns: 1911, Glock, M1A, and Scar-H. |
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BTW: A quality SR25 can be MORE expensive than a SCAR-H.
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Over the years I've bought a lot of guns that I was really excited to own until I actually owned them. A hung onto a few for longer than I should have. If you don't: have pride of ownership; enjoyment from shooting it; or need for it (self-defense, ranch use, etc) then ... why keep it? A lot of people are accumulators, but I'm more pragmatic. View Quote I bought it with money from my grandmother, so I'm reluctant to sell it and then roll the money into loans. Might get a good Kentucky longrifle, since I'm into BP and have wanted one for awhile. I'm more sure I'd like that. |
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Have you used a SCAR-17? It doesn't sound like it. Polymer parts? Check Factory adjustable cheek riser? Check Aluminum receiver? Check FN Quality? Check Lightweight? Check Accurate? Check Can be rebuilt without use of an armorer? Check The M14 is a neat gun, but you have to divorce emotion / affection from gun evaluations. Do you happen to own a Glock or is it "all 1911s" for you? FOR DISCLOSURE: I own all of the listed guns: 1911, Glock, M1A, and Scar-H. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Wow the Scar 17 prices have gotten even stupider! Inferior plastic lower and fragile cheek riser. Extruded aluminum and plastic please. If one is invested in M-14 type platform may as well ride it out. Those that are just getting into .308 battle rifles should get into AR-10’s or just get into the 6.5 Grendel and stick with the AR-15 types. 6.5 Grendel performs as well as 7.62x51 for almost anything. Polymer parts? Check Factory adjustable cheek riser? Check Aluminum receiver? Check FN Quality? Check Lightweight? Check Accurate? Check Can be rebuilt without use of an armorer? Check The M14 is a neat gun, but you have to divorce emotion / affection from gun evaluations. Do you happen to own a Glock or is it "all 1911s" for you? FOR DISCLOSURE: I own all of the listed guns: 1911, Glock, M1A, and Scar-H. The SCAR is just crazy money. One does not need to be particularly skilled to rebuild an AR-style rifle that is much cheaper and comparable. |
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