Converting a Colt SBR lower back to a Title 1 to sell.

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Converting a Colt SBR lower back to a Title 1 to sell.

Posted: 4/15/2018 5:21:17 PM EDT

I have a couple consecutive serial numbered Colt 6933 lowers and a 6921 lower I am thinging about deregistering and selling. I understand they never leave the registry, just their status gets updated. Reason being they are large pin Colts and they do not jive well with pitting a decent trigger in a there for a HK416 upper.

What form do I need to send to the ATF to notify them of the transition back to a title 1?

Do I need to wait for a response from them before I sell them?

Any insight is greatly appreciated.

Posted: 4/15/2018 5:54:47 PM EDT

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I’d just throw them in the back of the safe if it was me.

Posted: 4/15/2018 7:16:25 PM EDT

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I have a couple consecutive serial numbered Colt 6933 lowers and a 6921 lower I am thinging about deregistering and selling. I understand they never leave the registry, just their status gets updated. Reason being they are large pin Colts and they do not jive well with pitting a decent trigger in a there for a HK416 upper.

What form do I need to send to the ATF to notify them of the transition back to a title 1?

Do I need to wait for a response from them before I sell them?

Any insight is greatly appreciated.

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Technically, you don't have to do anything. If they are not in a NFA purview configuration, you can just sell them as Title I lowers.

Personally, I would send a letter to Martinsberg, but you don't have to wait for a reply.

Posted: 4/15/2018 7:31:33 PM EDT

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After waiting to get the stamps I would just keep them and get different lowers.

Posted: 4/15/2018 7:36:40 PM EDT

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I’d just throw them in the back of the safe if it was me.

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This.

Posted: 4/15/2018 7:48:07 PM EDT

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There is no form, I can't find the ATF letter but IIRC they said to just send them a letter with the s/n and registration info, letting them know about the permanent change to non-NFA configuration.

Posted: 4/15/2018 8:21:05 PM EDT

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You need to do absolutely nothing. Remove the short upper and sell as a Title I firearm. Really, that's it, from a legal standpoint.

Posted: 4/15/2018 8:29:55 PM EDT

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trigger

Posted: 4/15/2018 8:45:23 PM EDT

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Does not work with the firing pin safety of the 416 from what I have read and I don’t want to remove that feature from the bolt.

I am currently using the old colt accurized rifle large pin trigger 5-8 lbs. its ok but I’ve grown use to geissele.

Posted: 4/15/2018 9:28:05 PM EDT

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Have you checked with m60joe to see if he could convert them to small pin?

Posted: 4/15/2018 9:35:16 PM EDT

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Have you checked with m60joe to see if he could convert them to small pin?

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Yes. He said it was a no go

Posted: 4/16/2018 12:08:50 AM EDT

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Agreed.

Posted: 4/16/2018 4:35:19 PM EDT

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There is no form, I can't find the ATF letter but IIRC they said to just send them a letter with the s/n and registration info, letting them know about the permanent change to non-NFA configuration.

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There is no form, I can't find the ATF letter but IIRC they said to just send them a letter with the s/n and registration info, letting them know about the permanent change to non-NFA configuration.

This. Here's a letter template: https://blog.princelaw.com/2009/03/25/batfe-letter-requesting-removal-of-a-sbrsbs-from-the-nfrtr/

Director
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Attention: NFA Branch
244 Needy Rd
Martinsburg, WV 25405-9431
RE: Removal of a SBR/SBS from the NFRTR

To Whom It May Concern:

I would like to advise the NFA Branch that a [Short Barreled Shotgun OR Short Barreled Rifle] previously registered by me on a Form 1 has been permanently returned to a Title I status firearm. I am respectfully requesting that the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record (NFRTR) be modified to reflect this change in status. Lastly, I am sending this letter in duplicate and request that one copy be returned to me along with a letter stating that NFRTR has been modified to reflect the change in status.

Name & location of original manufacturer: _____

Type of firearm: _____

Caliber, Gauge or Size: ___

Model: ___

Length of barrel: ____ (now returned to x")

Length overall: ____ (now x")

Serial number: ____

Thanking you in advance, I am

[Typed Name]

Include:

Two Copies of this Letter
Previously Executed Form 1

You may sell the lower as a Title I firearm immediately. I would send the letter and file the eventual reply. (I wouldn't wait before selling.) The letter is helpful in case a future owner decides to SBR the lower again.

Posted: 4/16/2018 10:44:35 PM EDT

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Thanks for the responses guys!

Posted: 5/7/2018 10:49:06 AM EDT

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I used a template similar to the letter posted above and received a response from ATF in 3 weeks. Very simple process and they appreciated the update. Some might state this is an uneeded step but if you intend to sell them it's best to update the registry.

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