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Posted: 12/17/2018 3:39:35 AM EDT
Collectors dream, brand new in the box. How much did these things go for back in the day?

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/793528375
Link Posted: 12/17/2018 4:18:47 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/17/2018 4:29:24 AM EDT
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Shop I worked @ we were direct with HK then..thinking shop paid $8-$900ish..
You could not give them away. Maybe sold 2 a year. The pseudo military market was not really a thing back then. No one cared all that much. And..16” bbl.
It just was not that appealing to a wide group of people @ that time.
Hell, I bet we did not sell 10 AR’s a year then.
Link Posted: 12/17/2018 5:45:29 AM EDT
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Collectors dream, brand new in the box. How much did these things go for back in the day?

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/793528375
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True Value Hardware in Butler WI. 1987ish had one like that for $595.
Very pricey, as they also had a 7.62X39 Valmet for $425.

I didn't buy  
Link Posted: 12/17/2018 6:36:37 AM EDT
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went for more than I could afford...hence the $180 Mini 14...
Link Posted: 12/17/2018 6:46:42 AM EDT
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I'd rather have a new production MKE/Zenith Z5RS, SBRed with rail, light, micro Aimpoint and then tack on a K model with similar shit, with money left over.

The 80's era 94's are neat but nowhere close to $8K neat.
Link Posted: 12/17/2018 8:25:56 AM EDT
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Six bidders, 59 bids I think Tiburon117 wants it real bad.
Link Posted: 12/17/2018 11:15:27 AM EDT
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When they made for cool SBR modification, they jumped too.

I had one prior to 1989.  Sold it for $2k before 1994.

ETA - this is one of the preban guns I regret selling, along with a Steyr AUG and Springfield Armory FAL Para.
Link Posted: 12/17/2018 3:57:04 PM EDT
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Collectors dream, brand new in the box. How much did these things go for back in the day?

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/793528375
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True Value Hardware in Butler WI. 1987ish had one like that for $595.
Very pricey, as they also had a 7.62X39 Valmet for $425.

I didn't buy  
Link Posted: 12/17/2018 4:21:13 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/17/2018 6:58:29 PM EDT
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I have one of these unfired in mint condition!!! To bad I don’t have the box ??

Companies or individuals interested in selling or trading equipment should resort to the Equipment Exchange.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 4:36:59 AM EDT
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Getting close to $12k.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 4:56:33 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/19/2018 7:48:25 AM EDT
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At $12K, it’s in full auto UZI territory, which is absolutely ridiculous, in my opinion.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 8:15:55 AM EDT
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I paid $499 at a local hardware store bk in the 80s. Later sold it for $2000.
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 9:33:50 AM EDT
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Yea well remember that 1 round of .45 ACP that went for like $10,000 after Sandyhook?  Now that was ROI!

Be interesting to see of this actually sells.  I know I have seen a couple others listed a NIB that didn't bring that much in the last year, closer to half that.  Guess I should have invested!
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 10:38:16 AM EDT
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Getting close to $12k.
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Dang
Link Posted: 12/19/2018 5:50:39 PM EDT
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Now over $12K with 3 days still left. Will it hit $14K? Holy crap.
Link Posted: 12/20/2018 5:13:11 PM EDT
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Dang, thats a lot of scratch for a semi.
Link Posted: 12/20/2018 5:44:46 PM EDT
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Passed on a new one in '99 for 2k. Bought an engagement ring instead. In hindsight, I should have bought the 94.
Link Posted: 12/20/2018 7:03:21 PM EDT
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I have been watching this one and its getting pretty crazy in price.

I thought the other guy on GB who has the NIB 94 for 14K for a month or two was fucking crazy and now this one is within spitting distance of 14K with 2 days to go.

I personally just bought another semi 94 two months ago that was in really good shape for $4K.

I would have a hard time spending 3X (or more) on a semi NIB 94 to then just cut it apart to make a SBR MP5 sear host out of it.

That said, I guess if you have unlimited funds....than why not.  It will be interesting to see where this one lands price-wise.

Hey HK...you out there watching this?  Get off your duff and bring in some SP5 pistols before the window for importing these types of pistols and we can SBR them closes.
Link Posted: 12/20/2018 11:48:20 PM EDT
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I have been watching this one and its getting pretty crazy in price.

I thought the other guy on GB who has the NIB 94 for 14K for a month or two was fucking crazy and now this one is within spitting distance of 14K with 2 days to go.

I personally just bought another semi 94 two months ago that was in really good shape for $4K.

I would have a hard time spending 3X (or more) on a semi NIB 94 to then just cut it apart to make a SBR MP5 sear host out of it.

That said, I guess if you have unlimited funds....than why not.  It will be interesting to see where this one lands price-wise.

Hey HK...you out there watching this?  Get off your duff and bring in some SP5 pistols before the window for importing these types of pistols and we can SBR them closes.
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Agreed on all points.
Link Posted: 12/20/2018 11:50:21 PM EDT
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The highest bidder has no rating. I’ll bet the owner of that 94 is a little nervous about that one.
 That is unless it’s a shill. Either way it’s waaaaay too much for that imo

Edit to add, 3 of a kind
Link Posted: 12/21/2018 7:45:24 AM EDT
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At $12K, it’s in full auto UZI territory, which is absolutely ridiculous, in my opinion.
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This
Link Posted: 12/21/2018 7:53:27 AM EDT
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It'll be remarked, with a 3 lug bbl, paddle mag release, and a transferrable sear installed in 3 months........and Reuben will have it listed for 45K next year....
Link Posted: 12/21/2018 10:43:55 AM EDT
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Thats risky, I would venture to say HK is more likely than ever these days to re-release the 94. Even if the odds are slim, I don't think Id be rolling on this one.

EDIT: But seriously, just buy an UZI.
Link Posted: 12/21/2018 9:58:58 PM EDT
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Even if Hk introduced something like the 94 to the US market, it will never say "Made in W-Germany" again.

There is definitely a lot of value placed on that aspect of them since it came from a very limited period in history that only increases in value.

For a shooter, I doubt many people care, but for a collector, the time placement and that it has the original factory box, has never been fired, has all original inventory items adds up.

Does it add up to over $10K?  Not for me, but I could see $6-$8k.

I wonder if the bid is sketchy as well.
Link Posted: 12/21/2018 10:31:22 PM EDT
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Even if Hk introduced something like the 94 to the US market, it will never say "Made in W-Germany" again.

There is definitely a lot of value placed on that aspect of them since it came from a very limited period in history that only increases in value.

For a shooter, I doubt many people care, but for a collector, the time placement and that it has the original factory box, has never been fired, has all original inventory items adds up.

Does it add up to over $10K?  Not for me, but I could see $6-$8k.

I wonder if the bid is sketchy as well.
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The NR guy who is bidding will scare the real bidders away, I know I would be sketchy bidding against someone who doesn't have any feedback and just registered for this auction.
Link Posted: 12/22/2018 5:39:33 PM EDT
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Almost at $13K with 3 hours to go.
Link Posted: 12/23/2018 6:13:52 AM EDT
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$12945
Holy Crap! That’s utterly ridiculous IMO! Winning bidder looks legit but the unrated bidder that was in the mix for awhile looks suspicious.
Link Posted: 12/23/2018 11:12:36 AM EDT
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Now to chop the barrel and shoot cases of steel case ammo though it
Link Posted: 12/23/2018 1:58:59 PM EDT
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Don’t forget to electro pencil your name on the side of the receiver, and then throw it down
 the driveway for that tacticool look
Link Posted: 12/23/2018 2:10:11 PM EDT
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Don’t forget to electro pencil your name on the side of the receiver, and then throw it down
 the driveway for that tacticool look
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Good call. Cerakote or spray paint some digital urban camo pattern before the driveway test?
Link Posted: 12/23/2018 4:59:15 PM EDT
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Is the value really just linked to the collectibility?

If you want a shooter, then you could get any number of clones for a fraction of that cost, even HK-licensed clones.  Hell, you could buy a legit HK MP-5 parts kit and send it to a reputable builder for a quarter of the final price.
Link Posted: 12/23/2018 9:22:57 PM EDT
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Good call. Cerakote or spray paint some digital urban camo pattern before the driveway test?
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Or kryptic Camo!!
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Link Posted: 12/23/2018 9:31:36 PM EDT
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Is the value really just linked to the collectibility?

If you want a shooter, then you could get any number of clones for a fraction of that cost, even HK-licensed clones.  Hell, you could buy a legit HK MP-5 parts kit and send it to a reputable builder for a quarter of the final price.
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Meat hunter vs. trophy hunter - two completely different collector categories.

I have absolutely no use/desire (or funds) for a $13k collectible semiauto. But I gladly paid $4k for a shooter grade 94 to convert to mp5-n as my shooter. Still yet, others are happy with a MKE, POF, or clone build. It’s all a matter of wants, needs, and bank account.
Link Posted: 12/24/2018 12:26:23 AM EDT
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Is the value really just linked to the collectibility?

If you want a shooter, then you could get any number of clones for a fraction of that cost, even HK-licensed clones.  Hell, you could buy a legit HK MP-5 parts kit and send it to a reputable builder for a quarter of the final price.
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The value is NIB untouched. I doubt the buyer has plans to shoot or even covert it. Value increases if the owner is collect a complete series of NIB guns such as NIB HK91, NIB HK93 etc. Who knows maybe in 20 years some super wealthy collector who is just starting may pay $30K or more for it. Full auto MP5s will probably be $100K by then.
Link Posted: 12/27/2018 9:28:18 PM EDT
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NIB HK91. *Edit well the ad states a few mags went through it.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/795077313
Link Posted: 12/28/2018 1:21:45 AM EDT
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It'll be remarked, with a 3 lug bbl, paddle mag release, and a transferrable sear installed in 3 months........and Reuben will have it listed for 45K next year....
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Too true
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 12:09:37 AM EDT
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It'll be remarked, with a 3 lug bbl, paddle mag release, and a transferrable sear installed in 3 months........and Reuben will have it listed for 45K next year....
Too true
With transferable H&K conversion sears going for $30K and this HK 94 selling for $13K, you’re already at $43K before paying for any additional conversion work.

I realize that none of us had any idea of how high this thing would get bid up to at the time of Villafuego’s post.

It would be interesting to know if the buyer actually paid for it...
Link Posted: 12/29/2018 1:51:52 AM EDT
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It'll be remarked, with a 3 lug bbl, paddle mag release, and a transferrable sear installed in 3 months........and Reuben will have it listed for 45K next year....
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No way. 94s to be used for MP5 conversion can be found in the $3.5-4.5k range. I paid $4k for one about 18 months ago, a friend paid $3400 for a 94a3 about a year ago. The deals are out there, you just have to stumble upon them, act swiftly, and have cash free to buy. Those are appropriate for conversion, not a NIB 94. A NIB 94 is the realm of:
1. The high end collector who has multiple 94s (including some converted to mp5) and is looking for a collectible 94 to keep unfired.
2. The high end collector who lives in a state that still allows title-1 semis but doesn’t allow SBRs.

One would be foolish to convert a $13k NIB 94.

I have a friend who fits the first category. He has multiple converted 94s, multiple sears, and multiple NIB 94s that won’t leave his safe and won’t be fired.
Link Posted: 12/30/2018 10:38:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/30/2018 10:51:34 PM EDT
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The $14,000 Hk94 fool has had that listed for a very long time. Obviously fishing for the mother of all suckers.
The $53,750 package is FA sear and 3 guns. Also listed for quite awhile.
Link Posted: 1/2/2019 10:00:58 PM EDT
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Collectors dream, brand new in the box. How much did these things go for back in the day?

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WOW $13,000

I paid a $1,000 LESS.

and it included a Flemming Registered Sear
Link Posted: 1/5/2019 11:56:21 PM EDT
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Neat, but I can’t understand paying 12k for a safe queen.

I also don’t understand leaving a gun in a box for 30 years and never shooting it.
Link Posted: 1/6/2019 2:43:51 PM EDT
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Around the late 1980's to 1990 I could buy the fixed stock model for $400 dealer pricing.

I kick myself for not buying dozens. I actually prefer the fixed stock model. The collapsable looks cool, the fixed stock just plain works
Link Posted: 1/9/2019 2:49:34 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/24/2019 9:17:03 PM EDT
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I paid 850 for a brand new HK94A3 with 3 mags in 1988. That was exactly the same price the P7M13 went for. I bought one of each when I got promoted to Captain. I wish I had kept but I do still have my HK41 I bought in the 70s.
Link Posted: 1/26/2019 6:29:18 PM EDT
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Ok here's a NIB HK91 in all its glory.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/796772002
Link Posted: 1/27/2019 12:47:08 PM EDT
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I never understand why people buy guns at this price...  do they have a group of friends who are impressed?  even know what it is or care?  I am sure they are out there, but I have never met a truly wealthy person that is truly so into guns, they would buy something like this or care?  I mean this is a couple levels above owning a sear or anything NFA.  Every rich person I met skims the details of almost everything in life except on how to make more money.

The wealthiest people I know that are into guns are trust fund babies and most people around them don't have much of a high opinion of them when they are out of earshot.  In 2010 you could have bought one of these married to a sear for $14K.
Link Posted: 1/27/2019 12:57:01 PM EDT
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You have to have a lot of discretionary income to pay that much for that gun. Average guy with that much to spend would be better served buying a transferable.
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