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Posted: 12/17/2018 3:39:35 AM EDT
Collectors dream, brand new in the box. How much did these things go for back in the day?
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/793528375 |
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MSRP in 1983 was $650 for the 'A2' stocked gun and $720 for the 'A3' stocked gun - dealer cost $520 and $576, respectively.
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Shop I worked @ we were direct with HK then..thinking shop paid $8-$900ish..
You could not give them away. Maybe sold 2 a year. The pseudo military market was not really a thing back then. No one cared all that much. And..16” bbl. It just was not that appealing to a wide group of people @ that time. Hell, I bet we did not sell 10 AR’s a year then. |
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Collectors dream, brand new in the box. How much did these things go for back in the day? https://www.gunbroker.com/item/793528375 View Quote Very pricey, as they also had a 7.62X39 Valmet for $425. I didn't buy |
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went for more than I could afford...hence the $180 Mini 14...
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I'd rather have a new production MKE/Zenith Z5RS, SBRed with rail, light, micro Aimpoint and then tack on a K model with similar shit, with money left over.
The 80's era 94's are neat but nowhere close to $8K neat. |
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When they made for cool SBR modification, they jumped too.
I had one prior to 1989. Sold it for $2k before 1994. ETA - this is one of the preban guns I regret selling, along with a Steyr AUG and Springfield Armory FAL Para. |
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Collectors dream, brand new in the box. How much did these things go for back in the day? https://www.gunbroker.com/item/793528375 View Quote Very pricey, as they also had a 7.62X39 Valmet for $425. I didn't buy |
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Bought an A3 '94 for $2000 in 1994. Sold it two years later for $3000.
Thought I did well for the time. 50% profit. As the NFA process became more common through online learning over gun forums etc. And the idea of SBR'ing it made having sold it sting a bit, but not too badly. It doesn't do much that any other 9mm PCC doesn't. And the heyday of getting a FA conversion done by Vollmer or whoever was already long gone since the 1986 FOPA amendment. It was fun, but not $2000 or $3000 worth of fun to me. But if you're a collector, and the gottahaveititis is bad enough, I understand. The only problem I ever had with it was shooting +p with softer brass. It would fire-form itself to the chamber flutes and take a combination of mortaring and a cleaning rod & mallet to get that out. |
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I have one of these unfired in mint condition!!! To bad I don’t have the box ??
Companies or individuals interested in selling or trading equipment should resort to the Equipment Exchange. |
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Presuming the seller bought it in '86 that's quite a return on his investment.
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At $12K, it’s in full auto UZI territory, which is absolutely ridiculous, in my opinion.
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I paid $499 at a local hardware store bk in the 80s. Later sold it for $2000.
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Getting close to $12k. View Quote Be interesting to see of this actually sells. I know I have seen a couple others listed a NIB that didn't bring that much in the last year, closer to half that. Guess I should have invested! |
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Now over $12K with 3 days still left. Will it hit $14K? Holy crap.
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Passed on a new one in '99 for 2k. Bought an engagement ring instead. In hindsight, I should have bought the 94.
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I have been watching this one and its getting pretty crazy in price.
I thought the other guy on GB who has the NIB 94 for 14K for a month or two was fucking crazy and now this one is within spitting distance of 14K with 2 days to go. I personally just bought another semi 94 two months ago that was in really good shape for $4K. I would have a hard time spending 3X (or more) on a semi NIB 94 to then just cut it apart to make a SBR MP5 sear host out of it. That said, I guess if you have unlimited funds....than why not. It will be interesting to see where this one lands price-wise. Hey HK...you out there watching this? Get off your duff and bring in some SP5 pistols before the window for importing these types of pistols and we can SBR them closes. |
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I have been watching this one and its getting pretty crazy in price. I thought the other guy on GB who has the NIB 94 for 14K for a month or two was fucking crazy and now this one is within spitting distance of 14K with 2 days to go. I personally just bought another semi 94 two months ago that was in really good shape for $4K. I would have a hard time spending 3X (or more) on a semi NIB 94 to then just cut it apart to make a SBR MP5 sear host out of it. That said, I guess if you have unlimited funds....than why not. It will be interesting to see where this one lands price-wise. Hey HK...you out there watching this? Get off your duff and bring in some SP5 pistols before the window for importing these types of pistols and we can SBR them closes. View Quote |
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The highest bidder has no rating. I’ll bet the owner of that 94 is a little nervous about that one.
That is unless it’s a shill. Either way it’s waaaaay too much for that imo Edit to add, 3 of a kind |
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Thats risky, I would venture to say HK is more likely than ever these days to re-release the 94. Even if the odds are slim, I don't think Id be rolling on this one.
EDIT: But seriously, just buy an UZI. |
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Even if Hk introduced something like the 94 to the US market, it will never say "Made in W-Germany" again.
There is definitely a lot of value placed on that aspect of them since it came from a very limited period in history that only increases in value. For a shooter, I doubt many people care, but for a collector, the time placement and that it has the original factory box, has never been fired, has all original inventory items adds up. Does it add up to over $10K? Not for me, but I could see $6-$8k. I wonder if the bid is sketchy as well. |
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Even if Hk introduced something like the 94 to the US market, it will never say "Made in W-Germany" again. There is definitely a lot of value placed on that aspect of them since it came from a very limited period in history that only increases in value. For a shooter, I doubt many people care, but for a collector, the time placement and that it has the original factory box, has never been fired, has all original inventory items adds up. Does it add up to over $10K? Not for me, but I could see $6-$8k. I wonder if the bid is sketchy as well. View Quote |
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$12945
Holy Crap! That’s utterly ridiculous IMO! Winning bidder looks legit but the unrated bidder that was in the mix for awhile looks suspicious. |
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[#30]
Now to chop the barrel and shoot cases of steel case ammo though it
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Is the value really just linked to the collectibility?
If you want a shooter, then you could get any number of clones for a fraction of that cost, even HK-licensed clones. Hell, you could buy a legit HK MP-5 parts kit and send it to a reputable builder for a quarter of the final price. |
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Quoted: Good call. Cerakote or spray paint some digital urban camo pattern before the driveway test? View Quote Attached File |
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Is the value really just linked to the collectibility? If you want a shooter, then you could get any number of clones for a fraction of that cost, even HK-licensed clones. Hell, you could buy a legit HK MP-5 parts kit and send it to a reputable builder for a quarter of the final price. View Quote I have absolutely no use/desire (or funds) for a $13k collectible semiauto. But I gladly paid $4k for a shooter grade 94 to convert to mp5-n as my shooter. Still yet, others are happy with a MKE, POF, or clone build. It’s all a matter of wants, needs, and bank account. |
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Is the value really just linked to the collectibility? If you want a shooter, then you could get any number of clones for a fraction of that cost, even HK-licensed clones. Hell, you could buy a legit HK MP-5 parts kit and send it to a reputable builder for a quarter of the final price. View Quote |
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NIB HK91. *Edit well the ad states a few mags went through it.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/795077313 |
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Quoted: It'll be remarked, with a 3 lug bbl, paddle mag release, and a transferrable sear installed in 3 months........and Reuben will have it listed for 45K next year.... I realize that none of us had any idea of how high this thing would get bid up to at the time of Villafuego’s post. It would be interesting to know if the buyer actually paid for it... |
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Quoted: It'll be remarked, with a 3 lug bbl, paddle mag release, and a transferrable sear installed in 3 months........and Reuben will have it listed for 45K next year.... 1. The high end collector who has multiple 94s (including some converted to mp5) and is looking for a collectible 94 to keep unfired. 2. The high end collector who lives in a state that still allows title-1 semis but doesn’t allow SBRs. One would be foolish to convert a $13k NIB 94. I have a friend who fits the first category. He has multiple converted 94s, multiple sears, and multiple NIB 94s that won’t leave his safe and won’t be fired. |
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Another one.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/795192931 HK94 conversion. $53,750 https://www.gunbroker.com/item/788970656 |
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Another one. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/795192931 HK94 conversion. $53,750 https://www.gunbroker.com/item/788970656 View Quote The $53,750 package is FA sear and 3 guns. Also listed for quite awhile. |
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Collectors dream, brand new in the box. How much did these things go for back in the day? https://www.gunbroker.com/item/793528375 View Quote I paid a $1,000 LESS. and it included a Flemming Registered Sear |
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[#44]
Neat, but I can’t understand paying 12k for a safe queen.
I also don’t understand leaving a gun in a box for 30 years and never shooting it. |
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Around the late 1980's to 1990 I could buy the fixed stock model for $400 dealer pricing.
I kick myself for not buying dozens. I actually prefer the fixed stock model. The collapsable looks cool, the fixed stock just plain works |
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I paid 850 for a brand new HK94A3 with 3 mags in 1988. That was exactly the same price the P7M13 went for. I bought one of each when I got promoted to Captain. I wish I had kept but I do still have my HK41 I bought in the 70s.
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I never understand why people buy guns at this price... do they have a group of friends who are impressed? even know what it is or care? I am sure they are out there, but I have never met a truly wealthy person that is truly so into guns, they would buy something like this or care? I mean this is a couple levels above owning a sear or anything NFA. Every rich person I met skims the details of almost everything in life except on how to make more money.
The wealthiest people I know that are into guns are trust fund babies and most people around them don't have much of a high opinion of them when they are out of earshot. In 2010 you could have bought one of these married to a sear for $14K. |
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You have to have a lot of discretionary income to pay that much for that gun. Average guy with that much to spend would be better served buying a transferable.
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