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Posted: 7/19/2022 9:22:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Zeebz]
Larry Vickers announced on his Instagram that Century will be importing MKE made HK91 and HK33 rifles. No date announced yet.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CgKmaNVuo-y/?hl=en |
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Posted: 7/19/2022 9:43:30 AM EDT
[#1]
I want a hk53, / 12.5” 33.
 But not interested in paying more than $1500 MAX . Damn sure not paying $3k + hi prices. I’ll buy 6 more ar15s before I blow $3k on a hk. |
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Posted: 7/19/2022 9:43:59 AM EDT
[#2]
It's going to be interesting as to what the price point will be.
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Posted: 7/19/2022 9:47:20 AM EDT
[#3]
Pass
I've heard Spare parts are a motherfucker to get |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 7/19/2022 10:05:56 AM EDT
[#4]
Very interested.
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Posted: 7/19/2022 10:10:30 AM EDT
[#5]
HK salad days!
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Posted: 7/19/2022 10:11:36 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kujoe: Pass I've heard Spare parts are a motherfucker to get  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/19/2022 10:12:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: stiglitz_actual]
[#7]
I'm down for a 33k, my ap5 has been good fun
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Posted: 7/19/2022 10:17:38 AM EDT
[#8]
Dupelicious
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Posted: 7/19/2022 10:18:37 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kujoe:
Pass I've heard Spare parts are a motherfucker to get Robert RTG HK Parts Midwest Gun Works Gatewood Apex |
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Posted: 7/19/2022 10:45:32 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kujoe: Pass I've heard Spare parts are a motherfucker to get Magazines too. |
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Posted: 7/19/2022 10:50:51 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By osprey21: It's going to be interesting as to what the price point will be. Probably not relevant now but Zenith was supposed to import the HK91 before the contract issues with MKE. They showed the Zenith imported one at SHOT 2019 and announced the MSRP at $1,999. With how much Turkish currency has tanked hopefully it stays right around that price. |
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Posted: 7/19/2022 11:19:20 AM EDT
[#12]
Interesting
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AK, USA
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Posted: 7/19/2022 12:08:37 PM EDT
[#13]
I would expect the MSRP of the 33 to be between $1500-$1800 with a bump on initial release as there is no competition.
The 91 will probably be between $1200-$1500 as PTR has a clone on the market. |
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Posted: 7/19/2022 12:24:03 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Arty8: Magazines too. One has to believe Century will bring in MKE mags as well. Probably very similar to the MP5 magazine situation. HK's for $80-100; MKE for $50-60. |
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Posted: 7/19/2022 12:27:49 PM EDT
[#15]
More is good. I have a PTR built C-93 that is great to shoot. Magazine prices super suck although there are some cheaper options for range mags. Maybe with more of these rifles imported, someone will release a quality magazine to the market.
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ND, USA
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Posted: 7/19/2022 1:35:12 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zeebz: Probably not relevant now but Zenith was supposed to import the HK91 before the contract issues with MKE. They showed the Zenith imported one at SHOT 2019 and announced the MSRP at $1,999. With how much Turkish currency has tanked hopefully it stays right around that price. Zenith told me they plan on a 93/33/43 platform by the end of the year or early ‘23. Most likely like the 43 that they imported before. |
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Posted: 7/19/2022 2:00:02 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kujoe: Pass I've heard Spare parts are a motherfucker to get Not true for the most part - the sources listed above can provide everything needed to keep your gun running. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 7/19/2022 6:09:54 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shadyman: Zenith told me they plan on a 93/33/43 platform by the end of the year or early ‘23. Most likely like the 43 that they imported before. Zenith definitely won't be importing anything from MKE. |
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Posted: 7/19/2022 6:11:35 PM EDT
[#19]
I saw that. HK 5.56 mags are pretty expensive. There's a good Forgotten Weapons that talks about the history and limited success of the 5.56 HKs.
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WI, USA
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Posted: 7/19/2022 7:02:28 PM EDT
[#20]
Heard this song before when Zenith was the DJ but maybe Century can make it happen.
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Posted: 7/19/2022 7:50:06 PM EDT
[#21]
I just want a real G3 clone. Can’t wait for them to make this happen.
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Posted: 7/19/2022 9:11:19 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hecklerjones: Zenith definitely won't be importing anything from MKE. I do wonder what CAI's plan for 922r is. |
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Posted: 7/19/2022 10:23:37 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By i_tell_you_what: I do wonder what CAI's plan for 922r is. CAI has 922r plans for pistols? |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 7/19/2022 10:26:07 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By i_tell_you_what: Zenith apparently got a bunch of TDPs. I do wonder what CAI's plan for 922r is. US made Fire control group and a Thermold magazine would be my guess. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 7:40:37 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eodinert: CAI has 922r plans for pistols? |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 7:53:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: osprey21]
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Aimless: I saw that. HK 5.56 mags are pretty expensive. I'm still kicking myself for turning down buying 50 MCP 40rd steel mags for $20 a pop.  |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 8:22:34 AM EDT
[#27]
I could go for a G3K and a 53 if they bring those in. Another full-size .308 or the half-size 5.56 don’t really interest me as much.
Just wish they’d blow the market out on steel mags for the non-.308 guns. 
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Posted: 7/20/2022 10:03:40 AM EDT
[#28]
A 53 would be an instant buy for me. But does MKE even make 53s? I've searched and cannot find any evidence they ever have.
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Posted: 7/20/2022 10:07:15 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Zeebz]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By i_tell_you_what: Are they just going to import the new guns as pistols too? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By i_tell_you_what: Are they just going to import the new guns as pistols too? When Zenith was going to bring the MKE 91s in they were going to import them as rifles. They didn't say what parts were 922r but I'd assume the handguard, grip/lower housing, stock, charging handle, muzzle device, and fire control group. Originally Posted By bulletboy5150: A 53 would be an instant buy for me. But does MKE even make 53s? I've searched and cannot find any evidence they ever have. Not that I know of. The only one I think they make is the T43 which has a 12" barrel. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 11:01:54 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By i_tell_you_what: Zenith apparently got a bunch of TDPs. I do wonder what CAI's plan for 922r is. Given how modular the back end is, my guess is CAI takes a page from San Swiss and simply imports them as large pistols. The end user can then decide what to do from there. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 11:42:18 AM EDT
[#31]
Back in 2016 I bought a Z43P and got an approved form 1 on it. Installed a folding B&T stock and mount with a HS403 red dot.
Just about the perfect size folded and the roller locked action eats almost everything. A 12" barrel is the sweet spot for handling vs velocity. I hope they bring back the 91 sized pistol also. An 11 or 12 inch would be great as a match to my current one. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 7/20/2022 12:04:22 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zeebz: Probably not relevant now but Zenith was supposed to import the HK91 before the contract issues with MKE. They showed the Zenith imported one at SHOT 2019 and announced the MSRP at $1,999. With how much Turkish currency has tanked hopefully it stays right around that price. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zeebz: Originally Posted By osprey21: It's going to be interesting as to what the price point will be. Probably not relevant now but Zenith was supposed to import the HK91 before the contract issues with MKE. They showed the Zenith imported one at SHOT 2019 and announced the MSRP at $1,999. With how much Turkish currency has tanked hopefully it stays right around that price. Zenith was selling the MKE MP5s for what, $2200? Now they are $1200, shipped. That, combined with MKE's apparent interest in destroying their competition with insanely low prices, leads me to believe/hope it'll be more like $1100-1200 for the G3. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 7/20/2022 12:24:35 PM EDT
[#33]
 Will be buying a 53 so my G3k can have a little brother. |
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Posted: 7/20/2022 2:10:51 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CKxx: Zenith was selling the MKE MP5s for what, $2200? Now they are $1200, shipped. That, combined with MKE's apparent interest in destroying their competition with insanely low prices, leads me to believe/hope it'll be more like $1100-1200 for the G3. Zenith imported MKE MP5s were like $1,700-1,800. MSRP may have been around $2,200 but street price they were going for like $1,700 or $1,800. They came in in batches though and between batches I think prices would get a bit inflated to around $2,000 or so. Definitely that would be cool though if they imported the new 91/G3 with a street price around $1,200. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/21/2022 8:05:39 AM EDT
[#35]
They have been importing the 33 mags for a few months.
https://gunmagwarehouse.com/century-arms-mke-hk-93-53-33-223-5-56-30-round-translucent-polymer-magazine.html?queryID=9c27f21bc8b8bceca0f2f4ee328719de&objectID=9177&indexName=magento_default_products https://gunmagwarehouse.com/century-arms-mke-hk-93-53-33-223-5-56-30-round-steel-magazine.html?queryID=9c27f21bc8b8bceca0f2f4ee328719de&objectID=9176&indexName=magento_default_products |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/21/2022 8:07:06 AM EDT
[#36]
I doubt they will import a 53, MKE has never made them and there are some significant differences in the 53 and the rest of the 33 line. Cocking tube and carrier are two big ones.
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Posted: 7/21/2022 8:55:23 AM EDT
[#37]
It's just steel. Someone will fabricate an AR magwell and weld it to your gun for only half of what you paid for it. Some of them will work.
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Posted: 7/21/2022 9:16:25 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: It's just steel. Someone will fabricate an AR magwell and weld it to your gun for only half of what you paid for it. Some of them will work. Years ago I had a couple of the HarK mag well adapters and they worked OK - not flawless but OK. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 7/21/2022 9:54:50 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By freeride1: They have been importing the 33 mags for a few months. https://gunmagwarehouse.com/century-arms-mke-hk-93-53-33-223-5-56-30-round-translucent-polymer-magazine.html?queryID=9c27f21bc8b8bceca0f2f4ee328719de&objectID=9177&indexName=magento_default_products https://gunmagwarehouse.com/century-arms-mke-hk-93-53-33-223-5-56-30-round-steel-magazine.html?queryID=9c27f21bc8b8bceca0f2f4ee328719de&objectID=9176&indexName=magento_default_products Thanks for the heads up! Already have a couple HK steel mags for my PTR built C93 so I snagged some of the clear mags for the collection. |
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Posted: 7/21/2022 11:19:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/22/2022 3:34:28 PM EDT
[#41]
For mags, oddly enough Inexpensive Promags (the ones that are like $15 or so at RTG, etc) do work in HK93 clones or do in my two.
HK93 promags look crappy but work - are like mopeds and fat chicks - fun to ride until your friends see you.  Gunmagwarehouse has MKE/Century 93 mags for $44.99 - decent deal for a new 30 rd steel mag! |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/22/2022 7:29:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/22/2022 10:22:19 PM EDT
[#43]
MKE has a US website now. I wonder if they are doing the same thing as Zastava did.
https://www.mkeusa.com/en-US/contact-information/42 |
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Posted: 7/23/2022 9:19:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 0351: MKE has a US website now. I wonder if they are doing the same thing as Zastava did. https://www.mkeusa.com/en-US/contact-information/42 Wow... lots of cool guns on there. I didn't realize they made licensed copies of the 416. They also have some badass looking bolt rifles, too. |
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Posted: 7/23/2022 1:35:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: USMC_JA]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 0351: MKE has a US website now. I wonder if they are doing the same thing as Zastava did. https://www.mkeusa.com/en-US/contact-information/42 These are listed under pistols. My bet is these are coming in....soon.  
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Posted: 7/23/2022 1:57:28 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_JA: These are listed under pistols. My bet is these are coming in....soon. https://www.mkeusa.com/Uploads/Product/Large/7a8e7ee1-7805-4db3-b4df-877e02f34ea6.jpg?v-637844172753947580 https://www.mkeusa.com/Uploads/Product/Large/885aca2f-a2d2-481e-a0a5-a99062ba4bc0.jpg?v-637844172883431541 Yes! Pistols = No sketchy aftermarket 922r parts! |
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Posted: 7/23/2022 2:07:44 PM EDT
[#47]
TommyBuilt put on his IG that he'll have a sign up list for the US made MP7 clone (to be released in 2023) later this year. I'm gonna assume that's going to hurt my wallet, so i'm probably gonna hold on this and try to get a TMP7.
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Posted: 7/23/2022 7:18:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 0351]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_JA: These are listed under pistols. My bet is these are coming in....soon. https://www.mkeusa.com/Uploads/Product/Large/7a8e7ee1-7805-4db3-b4df-877e02f34ea6.jpg?v-637844172753947580 https://www.mkeusa.com/Uploads/Product/Large/885aca2f-a2d2-481e-a0a5-a99062ba4bc0.jpg?v-637844172883431541 I hope you are right. I'll take one long barreled pistols. |
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Posted: 7/24/2022 10:17:13 AM EDT
[#49]
So if I read things right,
1) a pistol can be essentially any length barrel (at the moment) and are imported sometimes with a 16+ barrel. 2) its okay to convert pistol to rifle (with 922R parts count, etc) then add stock 3) pistol can legally convert from pistol to rifle (and back?) BUT 4) Rifle cannot be converted to pistol, unless NFA paperwork is applied (e.g. SBR, AOW, etc) it can never be a "handgun" 5) once a rifle always a rifle unless your rifle was actually first a pistol. To say this out-loud is sort of funny. |
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Posted: 7/24/2022 10:56:32 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cherenkov: So if I read things right, 1) a pistol can be essentially any length barrel (at the moment) and are imported sometimes with a 16+ barrel. Pistols in federal law have no minimum or maximum barrel length, nor overall length for that matter. 2) its okay to convert pistol to rifle (with 922R parts count, etc) then add stock yes 3) pistol can legally convert from pistol to rifle (and back? yes) BUT 4) Rifle cannot be converted to pistol, unless NFA paperwork is applied (e.g. SBR, AOW, etc) it can never be a "handgun" The only NFA conversion route for factory rifles is to turn it into an SBR. A factory rifle can never be a pistol, nor could it be made into an AOW, since it started as a rifle with a stock. 5) once a rifle always a rifle unless your rifle was actually first a pistol. Better said as "if first a rifle, then always a rifle". To say this out-loud is sort of funny. |
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