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Posted: 4/24/2020 10:55:42 PM EDT
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No extra parts allowed. I have a 1/2-28 cap and a 5/8-24 cap on each end of my .30 Cal F1 can. I swap them around to fit the gun I'm attaching it to. A bushing type thread adapter is allowed because it doesn't retain baffles, but I was trying to avoid tolerance stacking.
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Posted: 4/24/2020 11:03:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No extra parts allowed. So then why can I buy an extra end cap for a commercial can without filling out another form 4? Or to ask it another way, why can a company like Dead Air sell extra end caps as non-regulated items but not extra baffles? |
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Posted: 4/25/2020 12:46:52 AM EDT
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The short answer is no.
The more complicated answer is maybe. One way is to submit your F1 with multiple caps detailed. If it's approved that way, you're GTG. The other way would be that your F1 uses the same caps as some non-silencer muzzle device (which you also own). This is how SiCo, Dead Air, et al. get away with selling end caps. |
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Posted: 4/25/2020 1:02:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is how SiCo, Dead Air, et al. get away with selling end caps. So if I own (for instance) one Dead Air Silencer, two end caps that fit that silencer and no separate muzzle device, is that “constructive possession” (or whatever the correct term is) since I have no legitimate use for the second end cap except for using it as a “silencer part”? |
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Posted: 4/25/2020 2:45:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No extra parts allowed. I have a 1/2-28 cap and a 5/8-24 cap on each end of my .30 Cal F1 can. I swap them around to fit the gun I'm attaching it to. A bushing type thread adapter is allowed because it doesn't retain baffles, but I was trying to avoid tolerance stacking. @wingsnthings Say that again please. Slowly as I'm form1 retarded and to the avg Joe it looks as if your sentence contradicts itself. 
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Posted: 4/25/2020 8:52:12 AM EDT
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The SiCo, DeadAir, etc, end caps are sold at retail because the Mfr's have had them deemed non-silencer parts, because they no longer fit the definition. This is due to the fact they have an alternate purpose. No, you don't need the blast shield to retain the end cap status.
 A form 1 maker doesn't have the ability for their parts to be ruled upon. If you did, you'd have to make one, under an approved form1, and send it to the ATF for a ruling (never to expect its return). Quote HistoryQuoted: because it doesn't retain baffles. @wingsnthings This is such a perpetuated myth. There's zero evidence to substantiate it and doesn't fit the definition of silencer. |
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Posted: 4/25/2020 1:08:56 PM EDT
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In generally, a 9mm end cap on a 45 can isn’t worth the money, the time to swap, and the effort put forth to make sure you never shoot a .45 projectile through a 9mm hole.
I do have a set of three cans that are all different lengths, but the tubes and ends are all threaded the same. The baffles are all opened up for .30 cal. I have a 1/2-28 adapter, a 5/8-24, and a YHM QD. I also have a 5.56 end cap, a 6.8, and a 7.62. So while I’ll always have three fully assembled cans and no leftover parts, I have 9 different ways to configure them. I did that several years ago to be my set of “if I never buy another one” cans. They’ve since been recored in a tubeless design by ECCO, yet retain the same flexibility of setups. |
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