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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Can an individual import a C96?

Posted: 7/19/2018 9:27:09 AM EDT

Co worker just called from the Czech Republic. He found a C96 in decent shape at an antique shop for just under $300 USD. He said it includes the stock. Can he ship it back without too much hassle?

no pics yet, if he sends some I will post them.

eta spelling

Posted: 7/19/2018 9:44:32 AM EDT

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You have to find a dealer willing to import it for you, there's a bunch of hoops they have to jump through. Generally it's not worth the cost and hassle unless you're importing a lot of guns or something very rare/valuable.

Posted: 7/19/2018 10:01:38 AM EDT

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Thanks, was sort of thinking that maybe since it is C&R It might be easier to import.

He just texted me and said it is a spanish version.

Posted: 7/19/2018 11:22:46 AM EDT

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Yes, a C&R license holder can do the occasional import on a Form 6. The catch is that the gun cannot be surplus military. As many C96 pistols were commercial guns - especially the Spanish-made ones - he may be good to go.

Go to ATF's site, download the Form 6, fill it out, and submit to ATF. They'll either approve or not.

The main issue is likely going to be export/purchase laws in the country he's in.

Posted: 7/19/2018 11:32:45 AM EDT

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does it matter if the gun is old enough to be an "antique"? like in the US pre-98?

Posted: 7/19/2018 11:36:52 AM EDT

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Yes. Pre-99 antique firearms can just be brought in. Either carry them home in your checked luggage or just mail them back.

The Form 6 is only needed for modern guns.

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/986/~/importing-a-muzzle-loading-gun-that-is-considered-an-antique

Posted: 7/19/2018 12:55:20 PM EDT

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@MVolkJ

Thanks for the info. Maybe with a C&R this is do-able since the gun is post 1898.
Hopefully the ATF will approve the form.

ETA Gun is in the Czech Republic so hopefully their export laws are friendly.

Posted: 7/19/2018 1:10:30 PM EDT

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Yes. Pre-99 antique firearms can just be brought in. Either carry them home in your checked luggage or just mail them back.

The Form 6 is only needed for modern guns.

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/986/~/importing-a-muzzle-loading-gun-that-is-considered-an-antique

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When I worked in Italy 6 years ago I wish I new more about it. I was in a gun shop in Switzerland and they had several super cool antique guns for not much money. I wasnt sure on getting them back to the US or taking them to Italy first.

It was a short work to Switzerland so I didnt have much time.

Posted: 7/19/2018 1:20:20 PM EDT

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When I worked in Italy 6 years ago I wish I new more about it. I was in a gun shop in Switzerland and they had several super cool antique guns for not much money. I wasnt sure on getting them back to the US or taking them to Italy first.

It was a short work to Switzerland so I didnt have much time.

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The main issue you'll run into with antiques is that the date cutoff differs depending on the country, and a number of countries have export hoops you need to jump through - like getting an export permit from the Ministry of Culture or the like.

If you're dealing with a country that doesn't really care or has exemptions for tourists buying antique guns - like say, New Zealand or the UK - it's as simple as "buy the gun, mail it back". Pre-99 antiques are completely unaffected by the GCA.

Posted: 8/29/2018 8:50:21 PM EDT

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Talking to ATF import branch last month when I was in Astan. They stated I could import C&R to include military as long as it was C&R. I haven't imported anything on my C&R but back in 88-90' imported lots of guns on Form 6s from West Germany as a individual/servicmember. Denied was my Webley MkIV and 1939 P08 Luger

Posted: 8/30/2018 11:15:40 AM EDT

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What was their reasoning for the denial?

Posted: 8/30/2018 5:04:43 PM EDT

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War surplus at the time 88-90'.

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Posted: 8/30/2018 6:09:56 PM EDT

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I wonder ITAR would impact all this stuff now..

Posted: 8/30/2018 6:20:49 PM EDT

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Talking to ATF import branch last month when I was in Astan. They stated I could import C&R to include military as long as it was C&R. I haven't imported anything on my C&R but back in 88-90' imported lots of guns on Form 6s from West Germany as a individual/servicmember. Denied was my Webley MkIV and 1939 P08 Luger

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Man, if I was ever tempted to try to “one piece at a time” something...

Posted: 8/30/2018 7:23:42 PM EDT

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I have a importer/exporter, out of Spain I deal with, and he is a FFL here in the US, so he handles both ends but that won't help you for Czech stuff, or I'd shoot you his email.

Posted: 8/30/2018 10:56:02 PM EDT

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I'll take an FR8.

Posted: 8/31/2018 7:18:49 AM EDT

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I have one coming minus bolt

He had to get a 10 year letter stating it had been in Spain for 10yrs before the ATF would approve it for import

mil weapons are strange to get imported.

Posted: 9/2/2018 1:02:33 PM EDT

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it should be easier.

A gentleman on another forum got a SVD in from Czech Republic and it wasn't hard being only he had to show proof it was in the czech hands for 5 years or more.

I tried to do it from Hungary several SVD's and I have a good importer here to work with me but the way things are done in Hungary was that it was created for domestic civilian use and there wasn't a category to take it out of the country.

Posted: 9/4/2018 6:18:11 PM EDT

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I have one coming minus bolt

He had to get a 10 year letter stating it had been in Spain for 10yrs before the ATF would approve it for import

mil weapons are strange to get imported.

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I'll take an FR8.

I have one coming minus bolt

He had to get a 10 year letter stating it had been in Spain for 10yrs before the ATF would approve it for import

mil weapons are strange to get imported.

Someone needs to sell Spain about 30,000 Saigas.

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