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Posted: 9/14/2020 10:02:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like the III and the III+ are 0.8" thick and the IV is 1.1" Yeah, it measured about 15/16" |
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Posted: 9/14/2020 11:32:11 AM EDT
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I’ve been on the fence about these for a while, finally pulled the trigger yesterday after getting the in-stock notification and to my surprise just got a tracking number a few minutes ago.
As fast as these sell, they have to raise price on them soon. I’ll be surprised if they don’t go up to $119ea before the end of the year. |
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Posted: 9/14/2020 1:03:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve been on the fence about these for a while, finally pulled the trigger yesterday after getting the in-stock notification and to my surprise just got a tracking number a few minutes ago. As fast as these sell, they have to raise price on them soon. I’ll be surprised if they don’t go up to $119ea before the end of the year. I just purchased a second set. These plates are unbeatable at this price. For anyone not aware there are some new videos on youtube of people testing these current production level IV plates and they are performing as advertised. |
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Posted: 9/14/2020 1:32:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve been on the fence about these for a while, finally pulled the trigger yesterday after getting the in-stock notification and to my surprise just got a tracking number a few minutes ago. As fast as these sell, they have to raise price on them soon. I’ll be surprised if they don’t go up to $119ea before the end of the year. I'll see your $119 and raise you. I bet they jump to $140-ish soon. However, that's just comparing them to the rest of the budget level IV market. However, I have no clue how Botach does things price-wise. I do know that I saw the bargain and FO'd big time to the point where I have spare sets I don't even have PC's for yet. Plus on the political level, the BG's seem to be smartening up and stocking up and the libs know not at many BG's will be able to afford them compared to GG's, so expect significant attempts at legislation in the next 1-10 years. Plus thinking about it logically, if/when the patriots do take a stand, most will be armed to the teeth and many will have plates on. Makes for a MUCH harder enemy to fight compared to unarmed and unarmored.....and the politicians can't have that now can they? Market/Black Market prices could go through the roof! |
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Posted: 9/14/2020 2:46:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll see your $119 and raise you. I bet they jump to $140-ish soon. However, that's just comparing them to the rest of the budget level IV market. However, I have no clue how Botach does things price-wise. I do know that I saw the bargain and FO'd big time to the point where I have spare sets I don't even have PC's for yet. Plus on the political level, the BG's seem to be smartening up and stocking up and the libs know not at many BG's will be able to afford them compared to GG's, so expect significant attempts at legislation in the next 1-10 years. Plus thinking about it logically, if/when the patriots do take a stand, most will be armed to the teeth and many will have plates on. Makes for a MUCH harder enemy to fight compared to unarmed and unarmored.....and the politicians can't have that now can they? Market/Black Market prices could go through the roof! I certainly wouldn’t bet against $140’ish BUT having some experience with pricing, albeit in a different industry, and based on what I know about how Botach operates and tries to position themselves, I think $120’ish is more likely. Anywhere up to $150 would be very reasonable though. Anyone else on the fence, I’d urge you to pounce while they’re still $99 ($230/pr shipped in my case). |
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Posted: 9/15/2020 10:09:26 AM EDT
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So I ordered two of the 6x6 lvl3 side plates to go with the lvl4 multicurve ( https://botach.com/battle-steel-level-iii-6x6-ballistic-plates-1/ ) over the labor day weekend sale, but now see they have curved side plates ( https://botach.com/battle-steel-level-iii-6x6-curved-ballistic-plates/ )
The only difference i can find between them other than the curve is that they list the flat plate as made in usa from imported materials but the curved one as imported. Will straight side plates totally suck? |
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Posted: 9/15/2020 12:39:27 PM EDT
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Finally got shipping tracking number !
Ordered in July. Looks like mine will be here in a week or so. They must have just got in a big shipment,. |
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Posted: 9/15/2020 12:49:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So I ordered two of the 6x6 lvl3 side plates to go with the lvl4 multicurve ( https://botach.com/battle-steel-level-iii-6x6-ballistic-plates-1/ ) over the labor day weekend sale, but now see they have curved side plates ( https://botach.com/battle-steel-level-iii-6x6-curved-ballistic-plates/ ) The only difference i can find between them other than the curve is that they list the flat plate as made in usa from imported materials but the curved one as imported. Will straight side plates totally suck? Kinda curious about the curved side plates. If you don't mind, could you please post some pics of what they look like from different angles? Thanks! |
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Posted: 9/15/2020 8:51:18 PM EDT
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Ordered a pair of the 3.5lb lvl3 polyethylene plates 9/3, received yesterday 9/14.
Overall pretty happy with them. Form factor is slightly different from the lvl4. These are single curve(vs the multicurve lvl4) and the curve is more gradual, lending to a slightly wider footprint. For $200 shipped still a deal though |
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Posted: 9/15/2020 10:35:47 PM EDT
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Well seeing as how the $99 level 4s were in stock that was cheap enough for an impulse buy. Here's to hoping I don't get botached.
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Posted: 9/16/2020 2:11:53 PM EDT
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Welp, ordered a set of Level IV’s last night and got the shipping notification at 1300hrs next day. We’ll see if the package moves at all by the end of the day. Much thanks to everyone here for the info, I’m upgrading from some AR500 level III+’s and looking to drop a few pounds off my PC.
Edit: they actually did ship from Las Vegas; en route by Tuesday. 
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Posted: 9/17/2020 4:15:47 PM EDT
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For anybody who ordered theirs while Botach had em in stock. If you want them to ship it just cancel your order.
I saw the LAPGs come in stock last night and I ordered some of those and sent an email to Botach to cancel the order and I had tracking email this morning. 
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Posted: 9/17/2020 4:23:59 PM EDT
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Ordered my second set today. Bought a set a couple months ago when they were on pre-sale. Took about 35 days to get them shipped out.
Purchased set number two this morning and already have a tracking number. These plates, at $99, are too good to not set up a “truck PC”. Problem is now I need a new PC, chest rig/placard, IFAK, etc hahaha. I can hear it now...”but the plates were only $99 each babe!” |
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Posted: 9/17/2020 4:43:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ordered my second set today. Bought a set a couple months ago when they were on pre-sale. Took about 35 days to get them shipped out. Purchased set number two this morning and already have a tracking number. These plates, at $99, are too good to not set up a “truck PC”. Problem is now I need a new PC, chest rig/placard, IFAK, etc hahaha. I can hear it now...”but the plates were only $99 each babe!” Agreed. I already have a set of III+ plates for my PC and shipped IV's to my son. At this price it just makes sense to have a set put back for spares/friends so ordered another set of IV's today. Tomac |
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Posted: 9/18/2020 1:10:42 AM EDT
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Just received mine today. Ordered on Monday. They look great. I have yet to be truly Botach'd. Knock on wood.
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Posted: 9/18/2020 11:12:37 AM EDT
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Ordered last night, got the tracking number this morning. But we all know Botach is going to let it sit in the warehouse for a week, just because.....
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Posted: 9/18/2020 12:37:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ordered last night, got the tracking number this morning. But we all know Botach is going to let it sit in the warehouse for a week, just because..... Ordered yesterday afternoon, received tracking number this morning. My first order took 3 weeks from order to actual shipping. Second order for my son took 2 days from order to actual shipping. So far I'm not doing too badly, let's see if UPS picks this up today or next week sometime (fingers crossed!). Tomac |
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Posted: 9/18/2020 1:09:11 PM EDT
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Ordered August 27th, received today (9/18). It "shipped" 9/11, wasn't actually in UPS hands until 15th or 16th.
Level IV's are indeed multicurve. Not quite as aggressive a multicurve as some manufacturers I'm sure, but way more curved and ergonomic than I was expecting. These went into LBT's new QRC V2 and fit into the plate pocket very nicely, without a lot of excess wiggle room. I slid some botach IIIa soft armor in as plate backers and it was definitely a more tight fit with the combination. For those asking about the multicurve III side plates, I received a pair of those as well. Unfortunately I'm kind of a moron with computers and haven't set up a new photo hosting site. They have a very ergonomic curve that goes with the contour of your waist. Very light weight. |
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Posted: 9/18/2020 2:05:18 PM EDT
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Anyone know of another lightweight side plate that's thinner? I looked at BAOCom their's are listed as 1" also.
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Posted: 9/18/2020 5:59:06 PM EDT
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Received my order today from Botach. Ordered in late July.
Battle Steel Level 3+ 10"x12"s. Produced 8/19/20 Pretty impressed with the quality.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 9/19/2020 6:56:25 AM EDT
[#21]
I must be living right, ordered my Lvl IV's on Thursday and UPS picked 'em up on Friday, will be here Tuesday! Woot!
Tomac |
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Posted: 9/19/2020 8:41:55 AM EDT
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Ordered Sunday
Delivered Friday Production date 9/9/20 They must be air freighting or fast boating these things from over seas because that’s really quick from mfg 9/9 to in consumer’s hands 9/18! I am very happy with these! The multicurve is very nice, my other plates are only single curve. The foam surround is minimal, unlike the LAPG plates, and the weight/dims are as advertised. They fit very well in my GGG Minimalist. $330 for a complete lvl IV setup that doesn’t weight 20lb is pretty nice. |
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Posted: 9/23/2020 8:44:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I must be living right, ordered my Lvl IV's on Thursday and UPS picked 'em up on Friday, will be here Tuesday! Woot! Tomac They're here! Minimal padding inside the box but they appear undamaged w/a mfg date of 9/11(!). Definitely multicurve, I'll have to see how they rate comfort-wise w/the III+'s I have now. Tomac |
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Posted: 9/25/2020 3:03:17 PM EDT
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I picked up a pair of Level IV 11x14s when they were back in stock in July. It took 30 days from the time I placed my order to the time it was delivered. That included a 2 day shipping hang up.
In hindsight, I wish I would’ve waited for the 10x12s to come back in stock, but with the plate panic at the time I went with what was available. When I tried to put the plates in my XL Mayflower APC, I quickly found out that the plates were too big and don’t fit.  Do any of you have any insight on any carriers that will fit Battle Steel 11x14 plates? |
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Posted: 9/25/2020 3:41:59 PM EDT
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@1700Driver
Have you considered purchasing the 10x12's and selling the 11x14's on the EE? Looks like the 10x12's are back in stock: Battle Steel IV's HTH... Tomac |
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Posted: 9/25/2020 4:21:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @1700Driver Have you considered purchasing the 10x12's and selling the 11x14's on the EE? Looks like the 10x12's are back in stock: Battle Steel IV's HTH... Tomac The thought had crossed my mind actually. In addition to that I was considering another plate carrier, in particular the SKD PiG. While it takes plates from small through XL, I don’t want to run into the same issue I had with my APC. I must add (if you couldn’t tell) I’m a bit of a noob when it comes to plate carriers and armor.
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Posted: 9/25/2020 6:29:31 PM EDT
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@170Driver i sent you an email.
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Posted: 9/26/2020 12:48:25 PM EDT
[#28]
FYI: Just weighed both my III+'s & IV's on an accurate scale. III+'s weigh 4lbs
Tomac Edited for misreading my own notes! 
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Posted: 9/26/2020 8:07:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FYI: Just weighed both my III+'s & IV's on an accurate scale. III+'s weigh 4lbs 12oz/ea and the IV's are 5lbs 12oz/ea. Tomac Thank you, Tomac. I was just doing that this morning on my crappy postal scale at work, and I see, I'm off by about 11 ounces...
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Posted: 9/26/2020 9:05:34 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: FYI: Just weighed both my III+'s & IV's on an accurate scale. III+'s weigh 4lbs 12oz/ea and the IV's are 5lbs 12oz/ea. Tomac Ironically, I decided to weigh my plates this morning on my postal scale too. I got the same for my Battle Steel IV’s. LAPG Lvl III 5lb 1.2oz, 0.98” thick, single curve, shooters cut Battle Steel Lvl IV 5lb 11.6oz, 0.87” thick, multicurve, shooters cut SKD Lvl IV 6lb 11.8oz, 0.72” thick, single curve, swimmers cut |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 10:30:08 AM EDT
[#31]
@Tomac
Would you describe the III+ as having the same shape as the IV? |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 10:38:51 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @Tomac Would you describe the III+ as having the same shape as the IV? @Wangstang No, they're definitely single-curve although Botach does offer a multi-curve III+ for $149. HTH... Tomac |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 10:44:09 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @Wangstang No, they're definitely single-curve although Botach does offer a multi-curve III+ for $149. HTH... Tomac Thanks. That weight difference is significant but that multi curve IV for $99 is a heck of product to offer in this line up/market. |
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Posted: 9/27/2020 1:46:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks. That weight difference is significant but that multi curve IV for $99 is a heck of product to offer in this line up/market. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @Wangstang No, they're definitely single-curve although Botach does offer a multi-curve III+ for $149. HTH... Tomac Thanks. That weight difference is significant but that multi curve IV for $99 is a heck of product to offer in this line up/market. Welcome!  I agree. If the weight's not a problem, go for the IV's! However, I'm an old fart and have to be extra weight-conscious. I have a set of the multi-curve III+ ordered, I'll post the weight when they arrive. Tomac |
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Posted: 9/30/2020 9:32:18 AM EDT
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So what’s the current lead time on lvl iv plates? I just ordered a set on 9/26 when it said they had 411 in stock. Is the order tracking accurate? Do they actually send shipment notification?
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Posted: 9/30/2020 10:37:49 AM EDT
[#36]
Orders placed the first week in September arrived in a week
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Posted: 9/30/2020 1:08:23 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So what’s the current lead time on lvl iv plates? I just ordered a set on 9/26 when it said they had 411 in stock. Is the order tracking accurate? Do they actually send shipment notification? I've ordered two sets of IV's in September; one took 6 days from order to delivery, the other took 9 days. I ordered a set of III+ multicurves on Sunday 9/27 (they were closed on the 28th) and got the UPS tracking number this morning. Tomac |
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Posted: 9/30/2020 5:10:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've ordered two sets of IV's in September; one took 6 days from order to delivery, the other took 9 days. I ordered a set of III+ multicurves on Sunday 9/27 (they were closed on the 28th) and got the UPS tracking number this morning. Tomac Could you let us know, if the strike face is edge to edge coverage like the level IVs, please? I have the single curve level IIIs, and the front edges are foam covered instead of full ceramic face. Thanks. |
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Posted: 9/30/2020 10:57:22 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Could you let us know, if the strike face is edge to edge coverage like the level IVs, please? I have the single curve level IIIs, and the front edges are foam covered instead of full ceramic face. Thanks. The level iii should be all PE with no ceramic, you might just be feeling the foam edges they put on most plates To protect against bumps causing delamination |
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Posted: 10/1/2020 3:00:29 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The level iii should be all PE with no ceramic, you might just be feeling the foam edges they put on most plates To protect against bumps causing delamination Sorry, mispoke, it's the level III+ with ceramic and PE. |
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Posted: 10/2/2020 8:54:38 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry, mispoke, it's the level III+ with ceramic and PE. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The level iii should be all PE with no ceramic, you might just be feeling the foam edges they put on most plates To protect against bumps causing delamination Sorry, mispoke, it's the level III+ with ceramic and PE. III+ multicurves arrived today. Weight is 5lbs/ea, all PE w/no ceramic & no foam cover. Does anyone know if all-PE is superior to a ceramic/PE composite? Tomac ETA: While not on their website, this search engine info was shown w/the link to the III+ PE, apparently there *is* ceramic in the 'PE-only" III+ plates: "Made w/Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene Fabrics & CERAMIC Tested to NIJ Level III+ / NIJ-0101.06 Multi-Hit Capability will defeat M855 5.56mm 62gr, 7.62x39 12gr Ball Fully Sealed - Corrosion Protection, Structural enhancement, Waterproof..." |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 10:41:51 AM EDT
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Just received an "In stock" notification for the Battle Steel lv IV plates, 947 units in stock as of this posting.
The day after I ordered a set of RMA 1092 https://botach.com/battle-steel-level-iv-10x12-ballistic-plates/?utm_source=instocknotify&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=instocknotify |
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Posted: 10/6/2020 4:48:24 PM EDT
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My level III+ single curve is labeld, "Ceramic/Polyethylene". And if your multi curves are around 5lbs, then they definitely have ceramic in them. The PE only is not going to be that heavy. And, no, PE only will not stop any penetrator projectile.
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Posted: 10/6/2020 6:45:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My level III+ single curve is labeld, "Ceramic/Polyethylene". And if your multi curves are around 5lbs, then they definitely have ceramic in them. The PE only is not going to be that heavy. And, no, PE only will not stop any penetrator projectile. Yep. That's why I included this in my post above: ETA: While not on their website, this search engine info was shown w/the link to the III+ PE, apparently there *is* ceramic in the 'PE-only" III+ plates: "Made w/Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene Fabrics & CERAMIC Tested to NIJ Level III+ / NIJ-0101.06 Multi-Hit Capability will defeat M855 5.56mm 62gr, 7.62x39 12gr Ball Fully Sealed - Corrosion Protection, Structural enhancement, Waterproof..." Tomac |
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Posted: 10/7/2020 3:29:43 PM EDT
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Is this a new Botach record? Ordered the LVL4 plates on the 6th when the Back In Stock email went out. Shipped from Vegas that evening. Delivered at noon today.
(Ignore the location... CA, not NC at the moment) They have a MFR date of 10/2/2020. |
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Posted: 10/7/2020 4:11:15 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this a new Botach record? Ordered the LVL4 plates on the 6th when the Back In Stock email went out. Shipped from Vegas that evening. Delivered at noon today. (Ignore the location... CA, not NC at the moment) They have a MFR date of 10/2/2020. They've really been upping their game recently. First order took 21 days from order to delivery, second took 9 days, third took 7 days and the last (arrived last Friday) took 5 days including their 9/28 holiday!  Tomac |
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Posted: 10/10/2020 2:38:45 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So what’s the current lead time on lvl iv plates? I just ordered a set on 9/26 when it said they had 411 in stock. Is the order tracking accurate? Do they actually send shipment notification? Update: ordered 9/26 and received today 10/9. Condition looks great |
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Posted: 10/10/2020 10:51:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could you let us know, if the strike face is edge to edge coverage like the level IVs, please? I have the single curve level IIIs, and the front edges are foam covered instead of full ceramic face. Thanks. @GlockMonk Sorry I didn't respond sooner. The III+ multicurves have full edge-to-edge coverage w/o any foam or padding. Tomac |
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Posted: 10/10/2020 12:31:04 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @GlockMonk Sorry I didn't respond sooner. The III+ multicurves have full edge-to-edge coverage w/o any foam or padding. Tomac Better late than never....  Thanks, I'll get me those next time, as it'll shave 2 lbs off my setup. |
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Posted: 10/10/2020 2:38:56 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Better late than never.... Thanks, I'll get me those next time, as it'll shave 2 lbs off my setup. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @GlockMonk Sorry I didn't respond sooner. The III+ multicurves have full edge-to-edge coverage w/o any foam or padding. Tomac Better late than never.... Thanks, I'll get me those next time, as it'll shave 2 lbs off my setup. Welcome. Even going III+ multicurve front and III+ single-curve back reduced my PC weight by 2lbs, that's almost the weight of 2 loaded 30rd AR mags. Tomac |
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