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Posted: 6/16/2020 2:48:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/11/2020 4:27:22 PM EST by Emt1581]
I ordered my level IV plates a couple weeks back, and Botach had listed them as shipping before 6/15 but I haven't heard anything.  Has anyone else that ordered them received them or a shipping notice?

EDIT: YES THEY ARE MULTI-CURVE EVEN THOUGH BOTACH LISTS THEM AS SINGLE CURVE!!!

Thanks!
Link Posted: 6/16/2020 2:53:22 PM EST
You ordered from Botach? If so therein lies your answer...which equals to who knows. They have quite the reputation here. Ive had both great and horrible experiences from them and thus limit my purchases to under $50.
Link Posted: 6/16/2020 2:55:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 58Teague:
You ordered from Botach? If so therein lies your answer...which equals to who knows. They have quite the reputation here. Ive had both great and horrible experiences from them and thus limit my purchases to under $50.
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I can count the orders I've placed with them on one hand but I've never had an issue before.  If they stonewall, can always reverse the charges and at this point they're only a day late.  Was just curious what the rest of the hive was experiencing with their orders for these plates.
Link Posted: 6/16/2020 3:20:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Emt1581:


I can count the orders I've placed with them on one hand but I've never had an issue before.  If they stonewall, can always reverse the charges and at this point they're only a day late.  Was just curious what the rest of the hive was experiencing with their orders for these plates.
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Originally Posted By 58Teague:
You ordered from Botach? If so therein lies your answer...which equals to who knows. They have quite the reputation here. Ive had both great and horrible experiences from them and thus limit my purchases to under $50.


I can count the orders I've placed with them on one hand but I've never had an issue before.  If they stonewall, can always reverse the charges and at this point they're only a day late.  Was just curious what the rest of the hive was experiencing with their orders for these plates.


As the plates are one of their regular stocked items and not a blowout price deal, you're most likely in the clear. My last order showed up without any notification, I think it was a sling.
Link Posted: 6/16/2020 3:33:08 PM EST
I think I read another thread about their plates being delayed from Botach and being contacted about a lead time.
Link Posted: 6/16/2020 3:39:58 PM EST
Last time I ordered they shipped a day or 2 late but they did ship.
Link Posted: 6/16/2020 3:41:34 PM EST
I ordered 2 weeks ago.  Got a shipping notice a few days later.  UPS still shows they havent received the package.
Link Posted: 6/16/2020 4:33:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
I ordered 2 weeks ago.  Got a shipping notice a few days later.  UPS still shows they havent received the package.
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To be expected with Botach.
Link Posted: 6/16/2020 5:01:50 PM EST
I ordered mine on the 1st of June. Just checked no update on my order.
In fact the sight now reads 30 June for those who place orders today. Probably includes us. Hurry up & wait. We should of ordered before the run on armor.


Link Posted: 6/16/2020 5:06:27 PM EST
Same situation.

I ordered on June 4.
I got a shipping confirmation email the same day but the FedEx tracking number still just says label printed.
It's been almost 2 weeks.
Link Posted: 6/16/2020 6:19:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2020 6:20:59 PM EST by GLD1980]
@rainmaker9 I didn't get a notification about shipping. I was under the impression somewhere around the 15th of June because at the time of order it listed 6/15/20.

Once idiots started burning buildings along with COVID-19 concerns it gave retailers the ability to get away with white lies on shipping and product availability. They will simply refer you to the COVID-19 or protest impact delays page. I should of been prepared. It sucks waiting when you know better and should of had instead of need.
Link Posted: 6/16/2020 6:49:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GLD1980:
@rainmaker9 I didn't get a notification about shipping. I was under the impression somewhere around the 15th of June because at the time of order it listed 6/15/20.

Once idiots started burning buildings along with COVID-19 concerns it gave retailers the ability to get away with white lies on shipping and product availability. They will simply refer you to the COVID-19 or protest impact delays page. I should of been prepared. It sucks waiting when you know better and should of had instead of need.
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Same here, no shipping notification.  Order placed June 3rd.
Link Posted: 6/16/2020 6:57:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/16/2020 6:57:36 PM EST by rainmaker9]
Sorry for not clarifying. I ordered a set of level 3 PE plates. They were in stock when I ordered on the 4th
Link Posted: 6/16/2020 10:35:38 PM EST
I've yet to get one of the Botach guys to even email me back :\
Link Posted: 6/16/2020 11:46:24 PM EST
ordered my first before all this 2020 crap. 2nd plate was at the start of it. first one shipped right away. 2nd one was claimed as in stock but took a couple weeks. Glad I have my 2. now is a shitty time to be looking for armor.
Link Posted: 6/17/2020 6:39:15 PM EST
I ordered some on May13 with some other stuff. Finally got a straight answer from them today after weeks of back and forth asking for updates on when the stuff might ship. Was told they have no ETA on when they will be back in stock so I just canceled the order.
Link Posted: 6/17/2020 9:58:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/22/2020 6:30:02 PM EST by 1911user]
I ordered 2 of the level 4 plates on May 21.  At the time, the listing stated shipment on or before 5/31.  On 6/1 or so the listing changed to 6/15 to ship.  

Yesterday I called Botach about status and left the order# and a callback number.  They never called back but they created a UPS Ground shipping label at noon today and changed the order status to "shipped".  
The order status also shows my card has now been charged.  I'll post if/when UPS actually picks up the shipment.

EDIT: UPS picked up a 12 pound package from Botach last night. It is scheduled to arrive here on Monday.

EDIT2: The 2 plates arrived today 6-22.  They are multi-curve and the label on the back has a date of MFG of 6/15/2020.
Link Posted: 6/19/2020 9:08:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/19/2020 9:08:56 PM EST by GLD1980]
LAPG also has their LVL III , and LVL IV available but going fast. Just picked up a set each and another cheap Atlas PC.
Link Posted: 6/19/2020 9:20:55 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GLD1980:
LAPG also has their LVL III , and LVL IV available but going fast. Just picked up a set each and another cheap Atlas PC.
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I ordered a set of IV's for my buddy. I'm thinking about buying a III and shooting it with M855A1.
Link Posted: 6/19/2020 11:53:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
I ordered a set of IV's for my buddy. I'm thinking about buying a III and shooting it with M855A1.
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their level 3 is almost the exact same stats as Battle steel level 4.
Link Posted: 6/20/2020 8:48:53 AM EST
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Originally Posted By slappomatt:
their level 3 is almost the exact same stats as Battle steel level 4.
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Kind of.

The Battle Steel are supposed to silica carbide ceramic vs the alumina on the LAPG plates.
Link Posted: 6/20/2020 1:43:04 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/20/2020 1:59:27 PM EST by GLD1980]
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Originally Posted By blwngazkit:
Kind of.

The Battle Steel are supposed to silica carbide ceramic vs the alumina on the LAPG plates.
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Can you explain why one may be better than the other in your opinion? I know nothing about plate composition & survivability. Thanks.


I did a quick research and it seems ¹boron carbide, ²silicon carbide, and ³aluminum oxide are main ceramic components and offer increased protection based off manufacturing processes. Boron being best most expensive & effective ceramic and Aluminum Oxide being the lower end of the 3 although still effective.
Link Posted: 6/20/2020 8:01:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GLD1980:


Can you explain why one may be better than the other in your opinion? I know nothing about plate composition & survivability. Thanks.


I did a quick research and it seems boron carbide, silicon carbide, and aluminum oxide are main ceramic components and offer increased protection based off manufacturing processes. Boron being best most expensive & effective ceramic and Aluminum Oxide being the lower end of the 3 although still effective.
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You got it.  The silicon carbide is more effective per mm and thus thinner & lighter than the aluminum ceramic based plates.
Link Posted: 6/20/2020 8:34:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By blwngazkit:
Kind of.

The Battle Steel are supposed to silica carbide ceramic vs the alumina on the LAPG plates.
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Originally Posted By slappomatt:
their level 3 is almost the exact same stats as Battle steel level 4.
Kind of.

The Battle Steel are supposed to silica carbide ceramic vs the alumina on the LAPG plates.
well I was mostly talking about the physical properties. size thickness and weight.
Link Posted: 6/23/2020 3:52:48 PM EST
Just hear back after a week or so...

They are waiting on the level IV plates to arrive.  So I guess when I ordered I missed the cut and will be on the next boat?

They also had to throw in there about the delay due to the surge in demand for tactical gear.
Link Posted: 6/23/2020 5:09:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/23/2020 5:12:05 PM EST by rainmaker9]
No update from Botach on when it will ship, even though the made a fedex tracking number on 4 Jun.

But I did see the post on the LAPG plates above in this thread. I ordered a level III set from them on the 19th and I just got a shipping confirmation.
The tracking number for the LAPG plates say they'll be here in 3 days on the 26th.
Link Posted: 6/23/2020 5:15:51 PM EST
Still waiting for my III+ plates ordered in March.

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Link Posted: 6/24/2020 2:47:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/25/2020 11:06:00 PM EST by GLD1980]
Just received my tracking numbers for my LAPG level IV plates. They will arrive this Saturday. Wish I could say the same of Botach. They will not answer phone calls, emails, voice msgs, nada. Thank God I ordered two sets because Botach is MIA.

Update 25JUN20

Finally have a Botach Tracking number with an expected arrival of 30JUN20 but nothings been picked up.
Link Posted: 6/25/2020 3:00:47 PM EST
My 6/1 Botach Lvl IV order just shipped (supposedly).

They did miss the ETA by a few days; last communication said they expected a shipment on Tuesday of this week and my order should be in that batch.  So Tuesday -> Thursday, not bad I guess.
Link Posted: 6/25/2020 3:21:03 PM EST
You've been botached.
Link Posted: 6/25/2020 3:24:07 PM EST
Botach website indicates back ordered to 7/27 on the Level IV plates. I would imagine mil/leo orders are prioritized and civilian orders might be bumped in today's environment or maybe always? dk

Have LAPG L3 plates arriving tomorrow according to the tracking info. Ordered them on Father's day.

Hope they don't throw them at the porch like USPS does with my other packages. My NEST shows the toss every time they deliver. Fed Ex is delivering these and usually more careful with packages than USPS.
Link Posted: 6/25/2020 4:15:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BLITZ999:
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Did you read the whole thread?  Mine have shipped as of today; so they ARE fulfilling orders.
Link Posted: 6/25/2020 4:54:29 PM EST
My LAPG plates I ordered this past Sat night were delivered today.

Still no word on the Botach plates I ordered on 4 Jun.
Link Posted: 6/25/2020 11:20:11 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/25/2020 11:23:29 PM EST by GLD1980]


Under the current circumstances I will not be mad at Botach for getting my 01JUN20 order which was supposed to ship 15JUN20 to me 15 days late. I have heard far worse.
Link Posted: 6/26/2020 4:46:56 PM EST
Ordered multi curve 3+ june 4th. Listed as in stock and same day shipping on the webpage. Had a numerical quantity listed in stock too.

My order has been "awaiting processing" ever since. 3 calls, 3 emails, not a peep.
Link Posted: 6/27/2020 12:35:44 AM EST
[Last Edit: 6/27/2020 6:30:11 AM EST by GLD1980]
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Originally Posted By xjronx:
Ordered multi curve 3+ june 4th. Listed as in stock and same day shipping on the webpage. Had a numerical quantity listed in stock too.

My order has been "awaiting processing" ever since. 3 calls, 3 emails, not a peep.
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[email protected]
Try a new email, addressed to Stephanie with your order number in the Subject line and end email with a V/R and your Salutation. Good luck!
Link Posted: 6/27/2020 2:50:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GLD1980:

[email protected]
Try a new email, addressed to Stephanie with your order number in the Subject line and end email with a V/R and your Salutation. Good luck!
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My order is from botach
Link Posted: 6/27/2020 3:07:05 PM EST
I just got an LAPG shipping notice for the level IV plates. Fedex doesn't have the package yet, so best case is Thursday.
Link Posted: 6/27/2020 3:14:28 PM EST
Looks like Botach also shipped my III+  multicurve order. Took them three weeks.
Link Posted: 6/27/2020 3:35:14 PM EST
My LAPG III plate arrived. Now I just need some time to shoot it.
Link Posted: 6/27/2020 4:32:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 6/27/2020 4:35:03 PM EST by chewbacca]
Same here, as in ordered first week of June and haven’t received shit
Link Posted: 6/27/2020 6:14:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Looks like Botach also shipped my III+  multicurve order. Took them three weeks.
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The rubber coated ones? What day did you order?
Link Posted: 6/27/2020 6:19:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By xjronx:



The rubber coated ones? What day did you order?
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https://botach.com/battle-steel-level-iii-ballistic-plates-m855-5-56mm-ap-protection-10x12-multi-curv/

Originally ordered June 1st.
Link Posted: 6/27/2020 10:43:17 PM EST
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My order is from botach
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Yeah your fucked getting through to them. I kept emailing like another member suggested and sure enough recieved tracking and they've shipped. I owe that member a beer!
Link Posted: 6/28/2020 2:39:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GLD1980:

Yeah your fucked getting through to them. I kept emailing like another member suggested and sure enough recieved tracking and they've shipped. I owe that member a beer!
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I've emailed and called a few time. No luck yet.
Link Posted: 6/28/2020 6:57:31 PM EST
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I've emailed and called a few time. No luck yet.
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It took me 2-3 emails. Calls failed everytime.
Link Posted: 6/29/2020 9:10:36 AM EST
I ordered a set on Jun 4th. Still nothing...
Link Posted: 6/29/2020 4:06:30 PM EST
I got a reply from botach to the email I sent this morning.

"Hello xjronx,

We are currently waiting on the Multi-Curve plates to come into warehouse.

Please bear with us. As soon as the plates arrive we will have this order shipped out to you immediately.

Thank you

All the best"


I sent a follow up email asking when they expect that to be.
Link Posted: 6/29/2020 6:00:30 PM EST
Just got an email within the hour saying the plates were in but they needed payment info again since 30 days had lapsed.  Called/left message AND emailed....we'll see where this goes.
Link Posted: 6/30/2020 8:10:41 AM EST
I got the same email and called them back and left a voice mail. I did not feel comfortable sending my CC info over voice mail or email so my hope was  they would call me back and I could give that info to a live person.

Less than three hours later I got the shipping confirmation, so I went back and reread the email. Apparently they lose your cc info from their system after 30 days, my order date was 6/4/20 so i was within the 30 days and the update of the CC info was not necessary.

I have the tracking number and label creation but no delivery details from UPS yet, i'll update when I have more info.

Link Posted: 6/30/2020 1:43:49 PM EST
Got an email saying the issue was resolved and then another one saying they are preparing to ship.
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