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UT, USA
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Posted: 4/25/2021 1:09:27 AM EDT
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Thanks everyone for the responses very helpful and much appreciated!
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/10/2021 10:40:54 AM EDT
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Does anyone know where I can find a picture of a ghm9 (or even apc) with the tailhook mod 1c (compact brace version) on it? I’m wondering why these aren’t more popular. They seem more compact which seems ideal for the ghm9c especially. Am I missing something like compatibility? Or quality?
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OH, USA
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Posted: 5/11/2021 8:12:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: LHshooterOH]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By timewaster1700: Does anyone know where I can find a picture of a ghm9 (or even apc) with the tailhook mod 1c (compact brace version) on it? I’m wondering why these aren’t more popular. They seem more compact which seems ideal for the ghm9c especially. Am I missing something like compatibility? Or quality? Thanks I have one. When I get home I will upload a pic. https://ibb.co/LgtcYtq https://ibb.co/1Gs1vwv https://ibb.co/vsqy3tr |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/12/2021 12:38:15 AM EDT
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You rock! Thanks! That’s a nice piece you have got there!
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/15/2021 10:25:29 AM EDT
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So what’s the official word on putting AR triggers in a ghm9? Do all AR triggers work or only some?
Anyone tried putting a Larue MBT2 in theirs? Anyone out a franklin armory AR binary trigger in theirs? I know they make a B&T version but it’s usually harder to find and more expensive. Wondering if maybe the AR version just works. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 5/15/2021 11:57:02 PM EDT
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The larue trigger will not work as it is thicker then milspec.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/16/2021 1:22:16 AM EDT
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Thanks for the response. So is that the main thing to watch for? SSA I’m guessing works then?
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WI, USA
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Posted: 5/17/2021 11:17:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By timewaster1700: So what’s the official word on putting AR triggers in a ghm9? Do all AR triggers work or only some? Anyone tried putting a Larue MBT2 in theirs? Anyone out a franklin armory AR binary trigger in theirs? I know they make a B&T version but it’s usually harder to find and more expensive. Wondering if maybe the AR version just works. geissele s3g works great in mine with zero mods. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2021 12:33:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By timewaster1700: Thanks for the response. So is that the main thing to watch for? SSA I’m guessing works then? The SSA will work but the trigger will be set further back than on an ar15 or the stock GHM9 trigger. It may or may not bother you. It felt weird to me so I used a flat trigger. |
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Posted: 5/19/2021 11:45:59 AM EDT
[#10]
The Elftmann AR-9 trigger works great in both GHMs and APCs (9mm and .45).
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UT, USA
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Posted: 6/3/2021 11:18:05 PM EDT
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Anyone have recommendations for an aimpoint T2 Mount or spacer that will cowitness with the backup sights that come with the ghm9?
While I really dig the look of the sight low mounted it is just feeling too low to be comfortable. Thanks |
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Posted: 6/4/2021 1:35:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By timewaster1700: Anyone have recommendations for an aimpoint T2 Mount or spacer that will cowitness with the backup sights that come with the ghm9? While I really dig the look of the sight low mounted it is just feeling too low to be comfortable. Thanks The standard cowitness mounts should be good. I'm using the American Defense Mfg (ADM) mount. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 6/6/2021 11:39:38 AM EDT
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Thanks went ahead and ordered the Midwest industries QD cowitness.
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Posted: 6/16/2021 6:05:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/16/2021 6:11:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Furyataurus: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/177719/20210614_223406-1979247.jpg Sexy. Now wait until you shoot it, **thump** |
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Posted: 6/16/2021 6:27:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Furyataurus]
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GHM9
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Posted: 6/16/2021 6:54:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Furyataurus: GHM9 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/177719/20210616_172000-1980822.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/177719/20210616_172053-1980823.jpg oops. If you don't make a video dual wielding suppressed GHMs arfcom will be disappoint. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 6/18/2021 12:10:33 AM EDT
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Out of curiosity, does anyone know what the cyclic rate is for the GHM9C?
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/30/2021 5:42:24 PM EDT
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Has anyone tried the Rare Breed trigger in a GHM9 yet?? Does it work?
Also if I want to swap my B&T lower with a Glock lower will I have to ship it to a FFL? Or is the lower no serialized like AR15 lowers? |
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Posted: 6/30/2021 8:05:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fabian: Has anyone tried the Rare Breed trigger in a GHM9 yet?? Does it work? Also if I want to swap my B&T lower with a Glock lower will I have to ship it to a FFL? Or is the lower no serialized like AR15 lowers? The lower is not serialized (yet - need to oppose ATF proposed rule to redefine receivers). |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/30/2021 9:11:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HeavyArtillery: The lower is not serialized (yet - need to oppose ATF proposed rule to redefine receivers). Awesome thank you very much for that info!! Probably won't be able to find one for sale anyway. |
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Posted: 7/2/2021 10:42:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dolor]
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 Attached FileIs there a brace option similar to the factory stock? I mean aside from the fact it's as thin or thinner than some of the shockwave blades out there, lol. I'm curious if there's an option that will give me a similar 'feel' to the factory thing. The telescoping braces are damn cool, but damn expensive. |
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Posted: 7/3/2021 5:50:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/418820/11570_jpg-1999779.JPG Is there a brace option similar to the factory stock? I mean aside from the fact it's as thin or thinner than some of the shockwave blades out there, lol. I'm curious if there's an option that will give me a similar 'feel' to the factory thing. The telescoping braces are damn cool, but damn expensive. CSM will modify that stock for use wig a Tailhook. I think you have to send it to him https://customsmithmfg.com/shop/ols/products/new-bt-ghm9c-folding-tailhook-host-tailhook-sold-separately |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 7/9/2021 4:22:24 AM EDT
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Have a GHM45 I want to SBR, I assume the dimensions are the same as the 9mm. Want to use the factory collapsible sliding stock, can someone tell me OAL, believe it should be measured extended.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 7/9/2021 7:02:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Quake_Guy: Have a GHM45 I want to SBR, I assume the dimensions are the same as the 9mm. Want to use the factory collapsible sliding stock, can someone tell me OAL, believe it should be measured extended. Per ATF, you measure overall length with the stock extended. To obtain dimensions for my APC9, I used the specs on the B&T Switzerland website. To convert mm to inches, you divide by 25.4 |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/11/2021 10:08:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kalash1974]
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Running a T2 on mine
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Posted: 7/12/2021 11:28:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Quake_Guy: Have a GHM45 I want to SBR, I assume the dimensions are the same as the 9mm. Want to use the factory collapsible sliding stock, can someone tell me OAL, believe it should be measured extended. I used 6.88" for barrel length and 25.9" for overall length. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2021 11:59:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: uhmeebuh]
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Former APC owner and new GHM9 Compact owner here.....and I think I have a better trigger solution figured out - took lots of trial and error and a few calls to B&T.
I tried the following with no luck: - A few milspec triggers (ALG, no names, etc) - Two timneys - single stage AR, two stage PCC - A Giessele SD-3G - JP basic trigger (JPFC-1) The problem with most aftermarket triggers (milspec or not) is that the hammer can't get to 90* and doesn't fully impact the firing pin. The metal plate in the lower where the hammer would hit doesn't come out (it's expoxied in). So after a few calls to B&T (with both Jordan and Jeremy) they said they have reports of the Elftman trigger not working (not sure of the reason. They said *unofficially* to use the factory hammer...and whatever trigger you want. So I did. With no luck. Most of them aren't setup to handle the differences in sear location and angle. All except the JP which has adjustable screws for pre- and over-travel on the trigger bar. And it worked! I now have a much better single stage trigger with a short reset (which was my main complaint) and with the JP springs (JPS4.5) I haver a ~6lb trigger that is MUCH nicer. I'd like a lower pull and may try the other lower power springs if they prove reliable. I need to test it with a thousand more rounds but it works great so far with about 200 rounds through it. Any one else find this solution? Other trigger bars that are adjustable like the JP? |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 7/16/2021 2:41:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uhmeebuh: Former APC owner and new GHM9 Compact owner here.....and I think I have a better trigger solution figured out - took lots of trial and error and a few calls to B&T. I tried the following with no luck: - A few milspec triggers (ALG, no names, etc) - Two timneys - single stage AR, two stage PCC - A Giessele SD-3G - JP basic trigger (JPFC-1) The problem with most aftermarket triggers (milspec or not) is that the hammer can't get to 90* and doesn't fully impact the firing pin. The metal plate in the lower where the hammer would hit doesn't come out (it's expoxied in). So after a few calls to B&T (with both Jordan and Jeremy) they said they have reports of the Elftman trigger not working (not sure of the reason. They said *unofficially* to use the factory hammer...and whatever trigger you want. So I did. With no luck. Most of them aren't setup to handle the differences in sear location and angle. All except the JP which has adjustable screws for pre- and over-travel on the trigger bar. And it worked! I now have a much better single stage trigger with a short reset (which was my main complaint) and with the JP springs (JPS4.5) I haver a ~6lb trigger that is MUCH nicer. I'd like a lower pull and may try the other lower power springs if they prove reliable. I need to test it with a thousand more rounds but it works great so far with about 200 rounds through it. Any one else find this solution? Other trigger bars that are adjustable like the JP? I was able to find a lighter set of JP springs (JPS3.5T) and I'm going to give them a go. This change makes it a ~4.5-5lb trigger. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 7/17/2021 3:37:55 PM EDT
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@uhmeebuh
Wait, so you tried a Geissele SD3G and it didn't work? I literally just installed one in mine but haven't had a chance to test it yet. I thought that was one that was known to work well in the GHM9s... |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2021 1:01:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iiiwildfireiii: @uhmeebuh Wait, so you tried a Geissele SD3G and it didn't work? I literally just installed one in mine but haven't had a chance to test it yet. I thought that was one that was known to work well in the GHM9s... Yup - earlier this week. It installed fine but it couldn't hit 90* due to the metal plate in front of the trigger. That metal plate is epoxied in or I would have removed it myself :-) I do wonder if the glock lower is different than the B&T lower? I have the glock lower....do you know which lower the SD3G work in? |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2021 1:03:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uhmeebuh: I was able to find a lighter set of JP springs (JPS3.5T) and I'm going to give them a go. This change makes it a ~4.5-5lb trigger. I got 200 rounds in today - works great! And best of all, my friend with an APC9 was jealous :-) |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 7/18/2021 6:09:34 PM EDT
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Now that you pointed out what to look at.... yup SD3G trigger wouldn't go 90* so it was unable to hit the firing pin. Well, that just sucks.
On the plus side, I'm getting faster at breaking this lower down. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uhmeebuh: Yup - earlier this week. It installed fine but it couldn't hit 90* due to the metal plate in front of the trigger. That metal plate is epoxied in or I would have removed it myself :-) I do wonder if the glock lower is different than the B&T lower? I have the glock lower....do you know which lower the SD3G work in? |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 7/19/2021 9:41:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By uhmeebuh: Yup - earlier this week. It installed fine but it couldn't hit 90* due to the metal plate in front of the trigger. That metal plate is epoxied in or I would have removed it myself :-) I do wonder if the glock lower is different than the B&T lower? I have the glock lower....do you know which lower the SD3G work in? i have a S3G trigger in my b&t mag lower and it works flawlessly. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 7/20/2021 7:56:28 AM EDT
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Any one know the diameter of the SD handguard? Hoping to figure out what cans I could use for my GHM9 compact and still have it fit inside the SD handguard.
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WI, USA
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Posted: 7/20/2021 2:52:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Slurve: Any one know the diameter of the SD handguard? Hoping to figure out what cans I could use for my GHM9 compact and still have it fit inside the SD handguard. i have a cgs mod 9 tucked in mine and it clears by about .060". i would not go any bigger than a 1.37" suppressor. |
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Posted: 7/20/2021 5:01:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlphaThree]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Slurve: Any one know the diameter of the SD handguard? Hoping to figure out what cans I could use for my GHM9 compact and still have it fit inside the SD handguard. The ID isn’t circular so it’s hard to measure for you but my Rugged Obsidian fits in there and it’s 1.37”. 1.5 definitely doesn’t fit. I currently just DT a Curtis suppressor on there  Attached File |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 7/21/2021 1:08:00 AM EDT
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Thanks that's super useful to know!
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USA
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Posted: 7/21/2021 6:16:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Slurve: Any one know the diameter of the SD handguard? Hoping to figure out what cans I could use for my GHM9 compact and still have it fit inside the SD handguard. See my posts with pics from April 2020 in this same thread, midway down page here... https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/BandT-GHM9-owners-get-in-here-/48-485228/?page=27 |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 7/21/2021 11:49:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By n2oiroc: i have a S3G trigger in my b&t mag lower and it works flawlessly. Maybe that's the difference - the B&T mag lower works with the S3G but my glock mag lower didn't work. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 7/24/2021 11:25:15 PM EDT
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My lower was a Glock lower. Definitely no workie.
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USA
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Posted: 8/2/2021 4:34:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ptoguy2002]
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Who does gunsmith work on GHM9's?
I bought the 16" barrel and long handguard from BT parts in order to rifle'ize one ( in CA, can't transfer as a pistol ), and just need to buy a gun and ship it to somebody to have the barrel swapped. Need it done prior to transferring it. Called Tar Heel, no go. Anybody ? 922R parts are pretty easy with glock lower. |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 8/4/2021 10:17:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ptoguy2002: Who does gunsmith work on GHM9's? I bought the 16" barrel and long handguard from BT parts in order to rifle'ize one ( in CA, can't transfer as a pistol ), and just need to buy a gun and ship it to somebody to have the barrel swapped. Need it done prior to transferring it. Called Tar Heel, no go. Anybody ? 922R parts are pretty easy with glock lower. Try Preston Precision: https://www.prestonprecision.net |
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Posted: 8/7/2021 11:30:30 AM EDT
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Just got the DT mount for the GSL Phoenix and it’s a PERFECT fit under the SD handguard with the full-size barrel. It’s almost a flush fit against the end of the handguard.
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Posted: 8/7/2021 2:06:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlphaThree: Just got the DT mount for the GSL Phoenix and it’s a PERFECT fit under the SD handguard with the full-size barrel. It’s almost a flush fit against the end of the handguard. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/299341/30C80110-3002-420E-B483-2888AE1882E7_jpe-2043390.JPG that is sexy as hell. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 8/7/2021 3:02:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlphaThree: Just got the DT mount for the GSL Phoenix and it’s a PERFECT fit under the SD handguard with the full-size barrel. It’s almost a flush fit against the end of the handguard. Nice. I bet it's stupid quiet, especially after the 1st round pop |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 11:44:08 PM EDT
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Sling you guys are using???
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NV, USA
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Posted: 8/21/2021 7:35:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: beanz2]
[#48]
Lingle lower that accepts CZ Scorpion/PMag EV9 magazines, AR triggers and AR grips. Also fits the APC9.
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Posted: 8/22/2021 12:39:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By beanz2: Lingle lower that accepts CZ Scorpion/PMag EV9 magazines, AR triggers and AR grips. Also fits the APC9. Thanks for the link for the lower. Looks very interesting. |
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Posted: 8/30/2021 2:47:27 AM EDT
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Nice little compact package. No issues with the 20 rounders at the range.
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