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Posted: 6/29/2018 7:06:22 PM EDT

Take down guns really need a barrel mounted sighting system. I'm wondering if a charger foreend could be modded ti take the magpul mount....

Posted: 6/30/2018 10:52:25 AM EDT

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Posted: 7/1/2018 12:30:20 AM EDT

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Only one way to find out...try it out. Looks like it wouldn't be too difficult.

Posted: 7/1/2018 8:10:20 PM EDT

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Only one way to find out...try it out. Looks like it wouldn't be too difficult.

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Supposedly it replaces the locking block, so I can't see how it wouldn't work, I mean every takedown has a locking mechanism...

Posted: 7/1/2018 9:09:05 PM EDT

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It will definitely work mechanically speaking, but I think the OP is wondering if there will be forend material in the way if trying to use the mount with a forend other than the Magpul Backpacker stock. I know the mount will work with the Hogue overmold stock; at least a reviewer on Midway USA's site says it does.

I'm in the process of piecing together a build using the Copper Custom stock adapter, and I was planning on using the X-22 optics mount in conjunction with the stock Ruger Charger forend. Haven't ordered anything yet, but that is the plan. I'm sure I would need to cut away some plastic material to make the mount fit, just haven't gotten to that stage yet.

I'm sure someone has tried it successfully , they just haven't spoken about it on the Internets yet.

Posted: 7/2/2018 8:33:15 AM EDT

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It will definitely work mechanically speaking, but I think the OP is wondering if there will be forend material in the way if trying to use the mount with a forend other than the Magpul Backpacker stock. I know the mount will work with the Hogue overmold stock; at least a reviewer on Midway USA's site says it does.

I'm in the process of piecing together a build using the Copper Custom stock adapter, and I was planning on using the X-22 optics mount in conjunction with the stock Ruger Charger forend. Haven't ordered anything yet, but that is the plan. I'm sure I would need to cut away some plastic material to make the mount fit, just haven't gotten to that stage yet.

I'm sure someone has tried it successfully , they just haven't spoken about it on the Internets yet.

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That is the EXACT build that I am doing and why I was asking! I have the gun built but am wanting to move the red dot to a barrel mount system. Guess I will have to order one and see how it goes.

Posted: 7/2/2018 3:13:28 PM EDT

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I think you are just going to have to try it and see how it fits. Using a razor or rotary tool to take away material is pretty easy.

I won’t have a chance to try it for a few weeks, but I’ll be doing the same thing eventually.

Posted: 7/2/2018 6:17:55 PM EDT

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I think you are just going to have to try it and see how it fits. Using a razor or rotary tool to take away material is pretty easy.

I won’t have a chance to try it for a few weeks, but I’ll be doing the same thing eventually.

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I'll let you know!

Posted: 7/9/2018 7:25:02 PM EDT

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Maybe? Only if you’re willing to modify the fore end a whole lot to get the two pieces to fit properly. You would have to remove a lot of the fore end to get it to work.

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I would also like to add that the optic mount and the backpacker stock were made for each other. Might as well take the plunge and get one while you’re at it.

Posted: 7/9/2018 8:20:41 PM EDT

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Yea but I can't brace a backpacker like I can a charger....

Posted: 7/9/2018 8:24:06 PM EDT

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If I was going to make a rifle, I would just get the Magpul stock as well...but I am making Charger pistol with a folding brace, so the Magpul stock is a no-go.

I have to problem removing material from the forend to make it work...if I mess it up, I'll just find a replacement on eBay.

Posted: 7/9/2018 8:38:10 PM EDT

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If anyone messes up theirs, I have mine collecting dust in a parts bin in my garage. PM me and we’ll work something out.

Posted: 7/20/2018 6:43:01 PM EDT

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Thanks to Artimus009, I have an extra set of furniture to experiment on.

The process should be fairly simple, just needs a little dremel love. I will fully document the process so others can duplicate it.

From a cursory fitting, looks like I will need to remove about .08"-.12" of material from the inside dimensions of the hand guard so that it matches the outside dimension of the X-22 Optics mount...the hand guard ID has a slight taper. I am thinking about simply using a 1" dowel wrapped in sand paper, but that would leave a small gap all around the rest of the handguard...it's times like this that I wish I had a mill in my garage...I could this done in 10 minutes.

Posted: 7/20/2018 10:27:30 PM EDT

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Dremel did the trick, took less than 30 minutes with the sanding drum.

OK, first thing first. The height of the B pillars need to match the height of the A support.

Then, use the sanding drum to just take some of the sidewall out, a little at a time.
Here it is with one side done.

Once you remove the material, the wall thickness of the hand guard will end up being about about .05" (1mm). It's more or less "by feel"...when you think you are getting close, just keep dry fitting the mount into the hand guard...sand more off accordingly. Be careful with the dremel...you can't put material back!

About 30 minutes later....done and done.

It may not be the cleanest looking inside, but it looks perfect on the outside.

Posted: 7/21/2018 12:01:28 AM EDT

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Dremel did the trick, took less than 30 minutes with the sanding drum.

OK, first thing first. The height of the B pillars need to match the height of the A support.

https://i.imgur.com/xKrPVszm.jpg

Then, use the sanding drum to just take some of the sidewall out, a little at a time.
Here it is with one side done.

https://i.imgur.com/u37Xz6im.jpg

Once you remove the material, the wall thickness of the hand guard will end up being about about .05" (1mm). It's more or less "by feel"...when you think you are getting close, just keep dry fitting the mount into the hand guard...sand more off accordingly. Be careful with the dremel...you can't put material back!

https://i.imgur.com/9AtWUb1m.jpg

About 30 minutes later....done and done.

https://i.imgur.com/l1DIzJhm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/w9pTaDsm.jpg

It may not be the cleanest looking inside, but it looks perfect on the outside.

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Very nice! I'm going to have to try this now.

Posted: 7/21/2018 3:24:59 AM EDT

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Pretty cool. I could have saved myself $300 (stamp and price of stock) if I had the balls to dremel my firearms lol. Looks good bud.

Posted: 7/26/2018 7:10:41 AM EDT

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Thanks for doing this. Not that it is much to add but I did email Magpul to see if they would just sell a foreend. Nope.

Posted: 7/28/2018 8:17:32 PM EDT

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Took the Charger out for the first time today...great little shooter. Can't wait until to I can get the Copper Custom adapter to make the project complete!

Posted: 7/31/2018 10:35:35 AM EDT

[#18]

Very nice!

Posted: 8/10/2018 8:49:08 AM EDT

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Nice job QuietM4.
I want to do this as well, but with the AGP Arms 10/22 TD stock forend. Do you think it would work with it?

Posted: 8/10/2018 9:15:39 AM EDT

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Nice job QuietM4.
I want to do this as well, but with the AGP Arms 10/22 TD stock forend. Do you think it would work with it?

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Only one way to know for sure!

Posted: 8/10/2018 11:50:33 AM EDT

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yeah-just wondering if it is worth my time and money to do so. Still mulling it around....

Posted: 8/10/2018 2:06:00 PM EDT

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Nice job QuietM4.
I want to do this as well, but with the AGP Arms 10/22 TD stock forend. Do you think it would work with it?

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I had an AGP TD stock a few years back...they are made a few miles from where I live in AZ. The forearm should take it, but you’d have to dremel it out just like the OEM forearm. They are nice guys, I’d call or email them to ask about it. I can’t remember from memory what the internal structure looks like.

Posted: 8/21/2018 12:01:00 AM EDT

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Thanks for posting the pictures and helping me build up the courage to start grinding away at my Charger forearm. Following your lead, it took me about 20 minutes to grind away enough material for the scope mount to drop in. Now my Charger is complete!

Everything fits inside a VISM pistol case:

Pieces before assembly:

Assembled:

Posted: 8/21/2018 1:26:48 PM EDT

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Thanks for posting the pictures and helping me build up the courage to start grinding away at my Charger forearm. Following your lead, it took me about 20 minutes to grind away enough material for the scope mount to drop in. Now my Charger is complete!

Everything fits inside a VISM pistol case:
https://i.imgur.com/4UxojVt.jpg

Pieces before assembly:
https://i.imgur.com/ZuRI59I.jpg

Assembled:
https://i.imgur.com/x6zJkfA.jpg

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That’s awesome! My copper custom adapter is sitting in my mailbox at home while I’m out of town for the week working...but I’ll have my SB PDW Brace attached ASAP when I get home Friday.

I like the folding blade setup, but I refuse to pay the price for the Hera adapter. Anyone know if some industrious Chinese company makes a clone?

Posted: 8/21/2018 1:35:42 PM EDT

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I like the folding blade setup, but I refuse to pay the price for the Hera adapter. Anyone know if some industrious Chinese company makes a clone?

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I used a KAK buffer tube and with the blade retainer tightened down I can just spin the buffer tube onto the CuCustom adapter - it's not as quick as unfolding, but it's shorter (I trimmed the buffer tube threads also to add more shortness) and you're already going to be connecting the barrel, so...

Posted: 8/21/2018 2:06:19 PM EDT

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I like the folding blade setup, but I refuse to pay the price for the Hera adapter. Anyone know if some industrious Chinese company makes a clone?

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The only Chinese clones I've seen are of the LAW Tactical folder.

I went with the ABA side folder mechanism which was around $89 which, while still expensive, was slightly less than the Hera Arms folding mechanism.

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