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Posted: 6/28/2018 8:23:08 PM EDT
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Bump for help.
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Posted: 6/28/2018 9:09:39 PM EDT
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I am trying to understand that first post....after reading it 5 times I think I understand your situation but let me paraphrase:
You currently own 2 each of the following: PVS14 Gen 3, AR10, and DBAL. You need gear to make shots out to 200yds. I have zero experience with the Armasight you listed but it does not look very good. I believe you should be able to make hits with your PVS14 and dbal at 200 yds on a Coyote sized object, especially with a 3x magnifier. We used to make hits out to 600 yards on pop up ivans with our 14s and peqs. What optics are you running on the 223 you own? |
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Posted: 6/28/2018 10:29:36 PM EDT
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What about a Photon XT or RT with an illuminator?
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Posted: 6/29/2018 1:24:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I am trying to understand that first post....after reading it 5 times I think I understand your situation but let me paraphrase: You currently own 2 each of the following: PVS14 Gen 3, AR10, and DBAL. You need gear to make shots out to 200yds. I have zero experience with the Armasight you listed but it does not look very good. I believe you should be able to make hits with your PVS14 and dbal at 200 yds on a Coyote sized object, especially with a 3x magnifier. We used to make hits out to 600 yards on pop up ivans with our 14s and peqs. What optics are you running on the 223 you own? I have 2 PVS14s with helmets 1- ar10 1- DBAL-A3 Ain’t well off yet I just received an inheritance a few years back. Rest went into the market and needs to stay there. New co-worker invites me out for free coyote hunting but I need to be able to make preferably 5” groups at 200yds. Luckily I have a 5.56 20” barrel AR with a Nikon 12x and a free float picatinny. I’m just trying to find an appropriate setup. I might be able to scrounge couple hundred $$$. But I’m not sure where to go. I was looking at the armasight WWZ 4x maybe if I throw a good Illuminator on it. |
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Posted: 6/29/2018 6:28:49 AM EDT
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Two options here, sell a pvs 14 and buy a night vision scope. This I believe is the better solution.
The other option is mount the pvs14 behind the day scope. Far from ideal but it works and would be the cheapest solution of them all. |
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Posted: 6/29/2018 9:48:09 AM EDT
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How about a 3X magnifier for one of the PVS14s behind a NV friendly red dot?
Wouldn't a LIF or 720NM filer on the PVS 14 objective lens work for a primary arms of holosun red dot work? |
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Posted: 6/29/2018 11:16:25 AM EDT
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How about a 3X magnifier for one of the PVS14s behind a NV friendly red dot? Wouldn't a LIF or 720NM filer on the PVS 14 objective lens work for a primary arms of holosun red dot work? |
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Posted: 6/29/2018 2:28:22 PM EDT
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Have you had much practice shooting out to 200 with your current setup? Maybe you need more practice.
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Posted: 6/30/2018 8:53:20 PM EDT
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You can find older gen1 triple cascade scopes for about 500. Pvs2 being the most common, but most of the others being better.
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Posted: 6/30/2018 9:59:30 PM EDT
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Or you could buy an extra PVS 4 that I have for $800 !
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Posted: 6/30/2018 10:50:18 PM EDT
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I've got a .WWZ. it does well with an illuminator on a dark night and you can see pretty well with no illuminator on a full moon. The only deal with 200 yard shots are the crosshairs are kinda large. Also it seems to have a lot of parallex error. I use a laser with mine and it helped tremendously. I've shot some pretty tight 5 shot groups at 100 yards using the laser and the crosshairs together. There is no bloom or Halo with the Gen I scope. The laser with the PVS14 gen 3 looks a thousand times more intense. Can definitely aim more precisely with the laser and Gen 1 scope. The main drawback is the size and weight of it. It's a beast. Weighs 3.2 lbs. And is huge. I've killed a bunch of beavers with it.
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Posted: 7/1/2018 2:30:16 AM EDT
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Why two PVS-14s?
Engaging out to 200m with the DBAL shouldn’t be a huge problem. Depending on the situation, I might recommend liquidating one of the PVS-14 setups and at least moving up to a Gen. 2+ scope if you’re not confident in your ability to use the laser out to that range. Night Goggles has some options that you could probably “convert” a PVS-14 into. Another option, though I’m loathe to suggest it, would be to weapon-mount one of the PVS-14s with no day scope on the 5.56 and use the laser with a 3x magnifier attachment. Might want more illuminator than the DBAL-A3 C1, though, maybe something like the Torch Pro. ~Augee |
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Posted: 7/1/2018 2:17:08 PM EDT
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I think I’m going to try a riser PVS14 with my 3x magnifier and mount the DBAL A3 on my receiver.
I was getting 2MOA at 100yds on Friday. Decent considering my DBAL is one. Free float rail and I was using a 3x headmounted pvs14. I’ll scan head mounted and have a 3x by mounted on a riser with my DBAL on the upper receiver. |
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