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Posted: 2/13/2018 5:42:25 PM EDT
Hey guys so Ive decided I want to get a 9mm pistol suppressor and I have narrowed it down to these three and I would appreciate If you guys that have experience with these could offer your advice/opinion on which to get. This will be shot on a glock 19, but I will eventually get a mp5k clone for it too. I want the suppressor to be very enjoyable and fun, as well as simplistic and durable.
Price difference between these three is negligible, omega 9k is just super simple an durable, tirant 9m is very light and quiet in full length and sexy in the k length, obsidian seems to offer very good suppression while being durable with steel baffles. Is there a noticeable difference in sound and tone between the obsidian 9 and tirant 9m in both short and long? rugged and sico have great warranties, how is aac? I read something about them being owned by Remington and im confused on the longevity and customer service of the company now Is the omega 9k pretty quiet with subs? Another thing I am very interested in is not just being quiet with subsonics but also having a nice cool sounding "swoosh" sound with supers ( that air puff sound that sounds like you are swinging a stick through the air or something, love how that sounds), I have seen some videos where pistol suppressors sound like this, and with others they just make a sharp pop that is quieter then unsuppressed. The omega 9k seems to have this aspect. |
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Personally, I don't consider the Omega-9K a "pistol" silencer. It's a 9mm silencer that CAN be mounted on pistols.
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I'm playing the same "what can" game but more of a Obsidian 9 vs. TiRant 9M, Omega 9K vs. Wolf 9SD.
No experience with any of the below, but from my internet observation: Enjoyable, you mean quiet? Obsidian has no 2nd party test numbers out, but I bet they're close to the TiRant. Obsidian / TiRant Omega In their K configs: Omega Obsidian / TiRant Simplistic: Omega TiRant - baffle stack sequence may be more complex than the Obsidian, but the TiRant is tool-less. Obsidian Durable: Omega - can run 300 supers Obsidian TiRant What about .22LR, plan on shooting one? Only the Obsidian would give you that capability (Omega manual doesn't explicitly say no rimfire, but I would assume because it is not user serviceable you'd want to avoid it). Like Gopher said, the Omega isn't really in the same class as the other two. |
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dont own any rimfire guns, and would only get one if I already have a suppressor that would go well with one.
What I meant about being enjoyable is not just which is the quietest, im not sure if its due to the baffle design, diameter, shape, but different suppressors seems to produce a different type of sound, some are quiet but sound like nothing, some are quiet but have a deep poof sound, some have a "pew" type sound that kinda resembles what a silencer in a movie sounds like. Obviously more sound reduction= better, but I would like a suppressor that has a cool sounding tone. The omega 9k is obviously not as suited for a pistol as the other two I listed but the reason im considering it an option is because I have shot it (although indoors with supersonic ammo) and it sounded nice and I liked the feel of it on the gun, I feel like I would leave it on the gun . The obsidian seems to be the most sensible choice. Im leaning towards the tirant 9m because of the modularity, the weight, and seems to be one of the best in sound reduction, not sure how it compares in short mode. Also I love how the tirant 9m looks in both configurations, it such a clean look. The only thing is im not sure how great the warranty is, since the baffles are aluminum |
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You should add the CGS Kraken to your list also, it's supposed to be the best metering 9mm can currently available. The only down side is it has aluminum baffles and it costs considerably more than the others you listed.
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I think once you get the MP5k or whatever pistol caliber carbine you end up with, you'll find that the can will spend more time on it than on your pistol(s).
So I'd go with the Omega 9K or Dead Air Wolf. Suppressed pistols are cool for the first few mags, but they lose that coolness after a few mags, IMO. |
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I think once you get the MP5k or whatever pistol caliber carbine you end up with, you'll find that the can will spend more time on it than on your pistol(s). So I'd go with the Omega 9K or Dead Air Wolf. Suppressed pistols are cool for the first few mags, but they lose that coolness after a few mags, IMO. View Quote |
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You should add the CGS Kraken to your list also, it's supposed to be the best metering 9mm can currently available. The only down side is it has aluminum baffles and it costs considerably more than the others you listed. View Quote |
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Quoted: thanks for the input, would there be any drawbacks to a obsidian 9 or tirant 9m in short mode on a pcc with a 3lug mount compared to an omega 9k? View Quote I have an Obsidian 45 I use in the full length configuration on a 9mm AR and I think it sounds alright. I don't think it's as quiet as the O9K I heard, but apples to hand grenade, roller lock versus blowback, 9K versus conventional pistol can, probably not fair comparisons. I would assume that the larger internal volume of a 9K would be quieter on my gun than my Obsidian is. |
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I went with Omega 9k for my handguns. Other than a Les Baer TRS, all my handguns are 9mm. I also own a CZ Scorpion Evo in micro K configuration that is 3-lugged. So I bought 2 Omega 9ks, 1 will live on the Scorpion and the other will be shared with my 9mm pistol hosts.
I know others here don't really like the 9k over a traditional full size can for handgun use. I made my decision based on how light and short the 9k is. I'm going to run it on my HD sidearm. It will be attached to the gun in my bedside safe. Not really interested in a longer pistol suppressor at this point. |
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I went with Omega 9k for my handguns. Other than a Les Baer TRS, all my handguns are 9mm. I also own a CZ Scorpion Evo in micro K configuration that is 3-lugged. So I bought 2 Omega 9ks, 1 will live on the Scorpion and the other will be shared with my 9mm pistol hosts. I know others here don't really like the 9k over a traditional full size can for handgun use. I made my decision based on how light and short the 9k is. I'm going to run it on my HD sidearm. It will be attached to the gun in my bedside safe. Not really interested in a longer pistol suppressor at this point. View Quote |
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Quoted: I think I read somewhere that CGS metered with freedom munitions 165 HUSH so dunno if the db readings are a fair comparison to other suppressor that used 147grain subsonic ammo that wasn't underpowered View Quote - CGS Design Guy |
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I just went through this and ended up going with the Rugged Obsidian 9. I have another SiCO pistol can so I am able to use the pistons from that and the fixed barrel spacer. I also have some smaller 9mm pistols I want to suppress and I like that the Rugged is almost an inch shorter in the K config. Also not being owned by Remington is a plus. It was also $120 cheaper (now $100 for some reason) in my zip code at silencershop. And personal preference - I like the looks better of the Obsidian.
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I have the octane 9 and omega 9k, as well as other 9mm cans, and I would get a modular 9mm before the omega 9k if that was my only pistol can. The omega 9k is awesome, just not full size can quiet, and I think something like the Tirant m would give you a nice compromise. Then you could go full-size for giggles and short for bedside.
eta: the second silencerco releases a modular octane 9 i'm Ordering one |
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I just went through this and ended up going with the Rugged Obsidian 9. I have another SiCO pistol can so I am able to use the pistons from that and the fixed barrel spacer. I also have some smaller 9mm pistols I want to suppress and I like that the Rugged is almost an inch shorter in the K config. Also not being owned by Remington is a plus. It was also $120 cheaper (now $100 for some reason) in my zip code at silencershop. And personal preference - I like the looks better of the Obsidian. View Quote |
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"I want the suppressor to be very enjoyable and fun, as well as simplistic and durable."
This is the AAC Ti-RANT 9M in a nutshell. Durable, light, no tools, proven lineage. Also - AAC's quality has never been better as it is right now. The 9M endurance testing ate up hundreds of thousands of rounds before we gave the OK to start production. |
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I will say their customer service was excellent post sellout around 2 years ago when I had to get my 762sd serviced. My brother in law has the TIrant m, and it is a very nice can.
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Quoted: Are you happy with the suppression level? do you ever wish it was a bit more quiet? View Quote |
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For those of you with an omega 9k, would you be disappointed if that was your only pistol can, i read some reports where people say their omega 9k didnt sound much different then a fullsize pistol can aside from first round pop, and that given how small it is and how the gun recoils with it , its their favorite, Its the only pistol suppressor I have shot, and even with supers in an indoor range, it was a very nice experience, I just wanted to keep shooting it
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This is relevant to my interests. I too am in the market for my first dedicated 9mm can.
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I can't help you with the swoosh sound (I try to wear hearing protection even when shooting suppressed) but my Omega 9k is fast becoming a favorite because for its size and weight it does a lot of things well enough. A few months back I wouldn't have recommended it as a first suppressor, seeing it as sort of a specialty can. Then I realized it's my only can that hardly ever sits in the safe. When it isn't on a 8.5" 300BO or a 4.5" 9mm AR upper it lives on a Glock 43. That combo is almost as short as a Maxim 9 but can be made carry small by swapping in a thread protector. If you want light and quiet on 9 then a Tirant 9M is a good option. If you want versatile without supersonic 300BO then an Obsidian 45 or 9 has a lot to offer. If you don't want suppressor height sights or a red dot then the AAC Illusion 9 is something to consider.
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I can't help you with the swoosh sound (I try to wear hearing protection even when shooting suppressed) but my Omega 9k is fast becoming a favorite because for its size and weight it does a lot of things well enough. A few months back I wouldn't have recommended it as a first suppressor, seeing it as sort of a specialty can. Then I realized it's my only can that hardly ever sits in the safe. When it isn't on a 8.5" 300BO or a 4.5" 9mm AR upper it lives on a Glock 43. That combo is almost as short as a Maxim 9 but can be made carry small by swapping in a thread protector. If you want light and quiet on 9 then a Tirant 9M is a good option. If you want versatile without supersonic 300BO then an Obsidian 45 or 9 has a lot to offer. If you don't want suppressor height sights or a red dot then the AAC Illusion 9 is something to consider. View Quote I havent heard anyone discuss this so ill emphasize it too, in my limited experience involving an omega 9k what was the most enjoyable about it wasn't how loud or not loud it was but the swooshing puff of air sound it created that sounded like a whip or a long stick flying through the air. It sounded somewhat close to the artificial pew sound silencers make in movies while not as quiet. Have seen a couple videos where it makes this sound, and in some it did not. Havent heard other pistol suppressors sound like this but maybe they all sound like this in person and not behind a microphone. |
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You're never going to get the answer you're looking for unless you actually go shoot them all side by side.
You might find you can't tell the difference. |
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On my Glock 23 with a 9mm conversion barrel shooting 147 gn subsonics my Omega 9k sounds the same or very close to an Octane 45 and a little less sharp than a Huntertown Guardian 9. The difference being these cans are heavier and longer, but don't obscure the sights as much. Once you get used to lining up the sites through the silhouette of the can the extra girth of the Omega 9k is no issue. So I don't think the Omega is settling until you go for maximum suppression. The trade there is a Tirant 9M, Octane 9, Obsidian 9, or CGS Kraken will be longer to get those slightly quieter shots. In shorter mode I doubt they'll be any quieter than the Omega 9k. Long pistol cans aren't bad for nightstand gun but is otherwise cumbersome. For me the ability to take the edge off supersonic 300BO is the edge the Omega 9k has over most other pistol cans, but if that isn't a use case you might prefer the flexibility of a modular can.
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How much should weight play as the Tirant 9m (9.3oz) aluminum is around 36% lighter than the Obsidian 9 (12.7oz) stainless in their full configurations. With no intentions of shooting cast lead or 22 ammo seems the big weight savings especially on a pistol would be a huge plus. I ask because I am still debating between these two. frp on the Obsidian 9
The Omega 9k is great little can and I have 2 of them. I would highly recommend one especially if you have a pcc. |
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A 36% lighter silencer on a pistol is the difference between night and day in respect to balance and handling.
All depends on what you want. |
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the weight and length issue aren't as much of a concern for me when the suppressors are modular, since the short configuration would be used when i need more practical shooting and handling characteristics. I think ive narrowed it down to the obsidian and omega 9k, i like the tirant 9m but considering whats happening with the company and the more durable construction of the others and superior warranties cant choose it as my first. The last thing I want is to be paranoid that something might come loose and get damaged and a company might not be around to fix it. I think I really need to hear a video comparing the 9k and obsidian 9 in short, an maybe find a range where i cant rent some suppressed pistol just to get some more experience
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