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For when you need to kill an elephant from 1,000 yards away, that's hiding behind a house...
Or when you just aren't satisfied with having your eyeballs inside your head anymore... Maybe when you get that strange desire to dislocate your shoulder? Anyway, that looks awesome! What kind of groups do you get on paper at 100yds? Thanks for sharing. |
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Wow.... I am kind of speechless.
but.... so about how much money to get a rifle for these rounds ? |
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If you can do the work to do a target gun yourself, parts are
2 grand for target action and barrel. a grand for stock, and bipod, rail, etc, and over 2 grand for right super long range scope.Some time lot more for scope. I just do cases and use non target, actions with non target test barrels for speed and pressure testing....Ed. |
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About 416 cal bullets............
The heaviest 550 gr for Extreme ELR probably be best 8 to 1 twist , in 416 caliber bullet, and 520 gr 9.5 to 1, and 470gr 10 to one, Some barrels I picked up are 10 to 1....... Now a novel idea is to lighten rear of bullet with small shallow hole drilled in base, might do better long range.which would allow 10 to one barrel stabilize the heavier 550 gr bullets for ELR. Making bullet nose heavier makes it more stable in flight, needing less spin, like our hollow base 585 cal minie bullets only need 48 to 1 twist, or less while out regular 585 bullets need about 24 to 1 to stabilise them.............. The winner of the King Of 2 Mile shoot last week was using 416 Barrett with a 1 to 10 twist, with a 500 gr CEB Lazer bullet, ...Robert Brantley, with Manners Stocks.... Paul Philips was third with a 416... GOOD NEWS-- There is now an importer and seller of our 585 HE brass getting set up here, in US, hopefully will be in stock, few weeks........ http://bertrambrass.com .. .. Caleb Hallet.. Have got another intermediate size action besides the Montana PH our guys working on, to do speed testingwith. It is big long REM style action that can take our 416 HSM, ED |
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In 416 HSM got a 415 gr long target bullet 3800,
with plain barrel, no brake, on intermediate action, Now my 416 HE gets same 415gr bullet to 3300.Ed |
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[#27]
Bob Snapp, 90, the great Gun Craftsman, of
Clare, Michigan, passed away Jan 28th.... He was an esteemed member of the American Custom Gunmakers Guild, Being its president in 1992..He liked working with Martini Cadet singleshot rifles .Worked with guys testing armor long time ago. Maybe the 1st to do 20mm necked down to 50cal We lost a great friend,,,Ed |
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It is possible rig up holders for many types setups., About shellholder supply for big cases, RCBS and others make slip in holders for shotgun cases that can work or reworked for big rimmed rifle cases... Here are various sizes....... 16ga-- .810" rim,........ 20ga-- .760" rim,.... 24ga-- .725" rim,....... 28ga .680" rim.... Ch4d and Buffalo Arms also have these larger shellholders... We fireform the 416 HSM with 65 gr of medium speed surplus powder, with rest of case filled with farina and grits mix, with a play dough plug in the neck. It is loud, so we shoot it into big container through a barrel size size hole, so the sound is muffled, so it doesn't deafen us.. It is great getting more companies making 416 caliber bullets, long target and bore rider bullets. Ed.. .... |
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[#29]
Wonder if a PTRD with 5 ft long barrel is stable enough
for ELR , rebarrel to 416 and use our 416 HSM, 500 gr bullet .... .Here is up north guy using 585 HE in a PTRD with inserts, Light load.....Inserts are in the shape of the 14.5mm case.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyabm-cbwgc&feature=youtu.be HERE ia video, 585 Hubel Express and water jugs - slow motion 750 gr with 155gr RE17, just a moderate load.....Ed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXAo1mJqw8Y |
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Got guys doing various 416 HEs..
One just built a 416 HE, just been testing it a few days.. And using 168gr of HBMG 475 gr CEB, tested it, in good conditions, 2 shots at 1800 yards and was within a 1/4 of minute accuracy...A few shots at shorter ranges had same accuracy. Ed.. |
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Quoted:
Got guys doing various 416 HEs.. One just built a 416 HE, just been testing it a few days.. And using 168gr of HBMG 475 gr CEB, tested it, in good conditions, 2 shots at 1800 yards and was within a 1/4 of minute accuracy...A few shots at shorter ranges had same accuracy. Ed.. View Quote |
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I'm curious, how much does that 34" behemoth weigh ?
I realize it isn't a walkin' rifle.. but still curious. And about how much energy at 1400yds ? |
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That one he said was 16 lbs, he did it as light as possible,
Possibly has enough speed to get 4-5000 ft lbs at 1200 yds... And have got 460 HSM specs setup, the impetus for that is some asking about one and new great line of 458 bullets CEB now has. It will hold more powder than the 416 HSM and will get a 572 gr as fast as 416 HSM gets a 475gr.....Ed.. |
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Quoted:
That one he said was 16 lbs, he did it as light as possible, Possibly has enough speed to get 4-5000 ft lbs at 1200 yds... And have got 460 HSM specs setup, the impetus for that is some asking about one and new great line of 458 bullets CEB now has. It will hold more powder than the 416 HSM and will get a 572 gr as fast as 416 HSM gets a 475gr.....Ed.. View Quote |
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