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Posted: 11/18/2017 4:22:49 AM EDT
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I heard the factory was in the process of retooling so hasn't made them for a while. I bought one about a year ago and they were hard to find then. The distributor supply seems to have dried up many months ago but you can still find them on gun broker. Or just wait a few months and they will probably be available again. I'm still waiting on approval to convert mine to a SBR, 10 months and counting.
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Posted: 11/18/2017 6:45:38 AM EDT
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I want one bad too. I'm not shelling out Marlin JM 357 cash so I'll wait a year or more and pick one up for around $500 when they start making them again.
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Posted: 11/18/2017 10:48:35 AM EDT
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I guess I will just wait.
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Posted: 11/18/2017 3:49:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/18/2017 4:06:00 PM EDT
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I own a Hartford 1892 in .357 Magnum. I believe it is made by Rossi. It is very accurate for a lever action rifle and fun to shoot.
https://www.emf-company.com/store/pc/SPORTING-RIFLE-BLUED-FRAME-OCTAGONAL-BLUED-BARREL-210p1112.htm |
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Posted: 11/18/2017 5:03:08 PM EDT
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I bought one year and half ago. I had to special order it, $550. EVERYONE loves it at the range when I take it.
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Posted: 11/21/2017 8:46:26 AM EDT
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And apparently Marlin is no longer making the 1894 in .357 either? For some reason I have a hankering for a lever gun, and a Marlin 1894 in particular, but it looks like unless I want to shell out stupid money, I'll be getting one in .44mag instead.
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Posted: 11/21/2017 5:37:41 PM EDT
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And apparently Marlin is no longer making the 1894 in .357 either? For some reason I have a hankering for a lever gun, and a Marlin 1894 in particular, but it looks like unless I want to shell out stupid money, I'll be getting one in .44mag instead. |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 7:34:59 PM EDT
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I was pretty close to getting a Marlin 44 1894 but I did some research and based on the majority of the reviews I read I opted to pass. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And apparently Marlin is no longer making the 1894 in .357 either? For some reason I have a hankering for a lever gun, and a Marlin 1894 in particular, but it looks like unless I want to shell out stupid money, I'll be getting one in .44mag instead. |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 10:56:31 PM EDT
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Glad I found some people to commiserate with. I've really been wanting a Rossi 16inch 357 for a while but can't find one anywhere. I called Rossi customer service and they weren't helpful. They aren't discontinued but they are back ordered. The lady I spoke with could not give me any eta for more going to their distributors.
Now that Marlin isn't making 357s anymore they're the only sub $1000 levergun option in that caliber with a side loading gate. If they got their shit together they could probably sell quite a lot of them right now. |
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Posted: 11/21/2017 11:40:07 PM EDT
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Any particular reason? I'm partial to the Marlin due to being drilled & tapped for a scope and ease of assembly/disassembly. Admittedly, I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to lever guns. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And apparently Marlin is no longer making the 1894 in .357 either? For some reason I have a hankering for a lever gun, and a Marlin 1894 in particular, but it looks like unless I want to shell out stupid money, I'll be getting one in .44mag instead. |
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Posted: 11/22/2017 9:12:09 AM EDT
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I read every review I could get my hands on and the consensus I reached is that after Remington bought our Marlin their lever gun quality went to shit. If you can find a JM proof maked Marlin chances are it will be amazing. The Remington guns tend to have a disproportionate number of defects including poorly timed barrels, rough actions that bind up often requiring tools to take them down to extract shells and general poor accuracy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And apparently Marlin is no longer making the 1894 in .357 either? For some reason I have a hankering for a lever gun, and a Marlin 1894 in particular, but it looks like unless I want to shell out stupid money, I'll be getting one in .44mag instead. |
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Posted: 11/22/2017 12:21:11 PM EDT
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I bought a 24" Rossi 92 rifle off the rack and special ordered another 20" Rossi 92 rifle in a case hardened finish just before the big drought.
With a little tuning on the internals both are very slick operating and with the Marbles Standard Tang rear sight and a Lyman 17AHB globe front sight, both are 2 MOA capable at 100 yards. 
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Posted: 11/23/2017 6:15:46 PM EDT
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I read every review I could get my hands on and the consensus I reached is that after Remington bought our Marlin their lever gun quality went to shit. If you can find a JM proof maked Marlin chances are it will be amazing. The Remington guns tend to have a disproportionate number of defects including poorly timed barrels, rough actions that bind up often requiring tools to take them down to extract shells and general poor accuracy. The guns put out in 2017 are good quality. The haters are just sour grapes with highly unrealistic expectations with gross bias and a nostalgia for JM's that never really existed. Go look at one yourself. I bet dollars to donuts you'll be pleased with what you see. If Marlin ever puts out another .357, they won't be able to keep them in stock for 5 years or more due to high volume of sales. It'll crash the rest of the .357 market. |
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Posted: 11/27/2017 5:35:25 PM EDT
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Yep, but the time remlin tools up and comes back out with a 357 again, should have most of the problems solved on the current 1894's builds, and will be only the purest that will pay the the high price for a jm pre safety models safe gun instead.
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Posted: 11/28/2017 3:51:38 PM EDT
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While I have 2 Rossi 357mags myself, I was curious as to why Rossi's web page only showed R92s in 45 colt and also why 357mags are as scarce as hens teeth. So, this morning I called Rossi CS and found out the following.
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Posted: 11/28/2017 11:10:38 PM EDT
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While I have 2 Rossi 357mags myself, I was curious as to why Rossi's web page only showed R92s in 45 colt and also why 357mags are as scarce as hens teeth. So, this morning I called Rossi CS and found out the following.
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Posted: 11/28/2017 11:55:47 PM EDT
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I saw one at the Dallas Market Hall gun show this weekend for $499.
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Posted: 12/5/2017 11:47:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/6/2017 12:02:16 AM EDT
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I really like mine ( 16" 357)
Been thinking about getting another in 44mag 
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Posted: 12/6/2017 12:23:09 PM EDT
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Well, as long as we're sharing pictures. Here's my two 357mag Rossis. I've slicked up the action and trigger on both with Steve's DvD and parts and added Marbles sights to the carbine, and Marbles tang and folding rear (not shown) sights plus a Lyman globe sight on my rifle for shooting steel out at 300yds. Both are smooth, accurate, and more fun that a barrel of monkeys.
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Posted: 12/6/2017 6:13:40 PM EDT
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Did you do anything to the shell stop to make it more reliable COSteve?
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Posted: 12/18/2017 6:19:58 AM EDT
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Good news about the Rossis. I want to get an inexpensive pistol caliber lever gun to take with me in the camper trailer I bought. Marlin's 1894C in .45LC would have the lead and I don't think I'd mind that cartridge much. I don't HAVE anything in that cartridge already... but it would give me an excuse to buy a Schofield repro to use the same ammo.
On the other hand... I love .357 Mag and out of a rifle, it's tits. It baffles me that Marlin isn't making them in .357, as it seems that is the most in-demand caliber. Good thing is I won't be purchasing soon, probably summer time next year. I'll have to keep in mind the Rossi rifles and maybe pick one up in .357 when they are available! |
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Posted: 12/19/2017 1:37:20 PM EDT
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Did you do anything to the shell stop to make it more reliable COSteve? |
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Posted: 1/18/2018 6:47:56 PM EDT
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Yes, Steve's DvD gives you step by step information on not only slicking up and lightening up the action, but he also has pointers for inspecting and dealing with any issues with the shell stop, lightening the trigger weight, magazine capacity increase, and the loading gate spring lightening. His Rossi Action Kit at $58 including the DvD is worth every penny. |
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Posted: 1/18/2018 10:31:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2018 8:01:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/1/2018 1:41:25 AM EDT
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Any word when they are supposed to start showing up again?
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Posted: 2/1/2018 7:38:55 AM EDT
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Just a FYI, but the remlin 1894's in 357's are supposed to be hitting the dealer shelf soon as well.
The CB with 20" barrel looks good, but really need to see one in person to make sure that Rem has the barrel cocked to the upper receiver line problem resolved now. Note, keep in mind that they may be using shallow grooved ballard rifled barrel for the 357 as well, so for a cast bullets, may have to size it slightly over size to get it to shoot well in the rifle. https://www.marlinfirearms.com/lever-action/model-1894/model-1894cb |
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Posted: 2/1/2018 11:10:12 AM EDT
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I called Rossi's CS dept yesterday again asking for updates and was told that the plant has started production and that they (Braztech, the US distributor) expects the 1st shipments from Brazil "any day now." Then, they plan to start sending them out to the distributors who have outstanding orders. It's a matter of filling the pipeline and that takes a bit of time. As to the calibers offered, she said they expect 357mag, 44mag, and 45 Colt offerings in the same configurations as before but haven't been told how many of which kind will be in the initial shipments.
I also asked about their website which only shows the 45 Colts and she restated what the last CS person told me previously, that they are redoing their website completely and it should be finished later in the spring or summer (Why so long?). So, the current website is not being updated. |
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Posted: 2/5/2018 1:50:18 AM EDT
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Did anyone else read the story in the recent American Rifleman about Marlin rifles. They say in the article that when the machines were moved from the old Marlin plant to the new Remington line, there were NO DETAILED TECHNICAL DRAWINGS to go with them. The article says that Remington basically had to start from scratch with new drawings and technical details when starting up the line, but now have them in place and are now using fully modernized manufacturing. IF the article is correct, that explains a lot about the "Remlin" quality problems and hopefully means that current production is good to go. I know my 2016 Marlin 45-70 and 2017 30-30 both seem to be good to go.
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Posted: 2/15/2018 12:04:47 AM EDT
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IMHO, it's just excuses.
Aloha, Mark |
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Posted: 2/15/2018 10:19:41 AM EDT
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IMHO, it's just excuses. Aloha, Mark More likely, Remington didn't want to use the Marlin production documents because they didn't fit into Remington's system so they had to re-make them. In any case, the new Remlin company screwed the pooch producing leverguns for years. The jury is still out on whether they've finally gotten their collective shit together yet. |
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Posted: 2/15/2018 8:51:12 PM EDT
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IMHO, it's just excuses. Aloha, Mark |
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Posted: 2/15/2018 9:38:38 PM EDT
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Was just talking about these today again. Really hope they start showing up and in decent shape. Also hope this Remington deal won’t effect them.
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I called Rossi's CS dept yesterday again asking for updates and was told that the plant has started production and that they (Braztech, the US distributor) expects the 1st shipments from Brazil "any day now." Then, they plan to start sending them out to the distributors who have outstanding orders. It's a matter of filling the pipeline and that takes a bit of time. As to the calibers offered, she said they expect 357mag, 44mag, and 45 Colt offerings in the same configurations as before but haven't been told how many of which kind will be in the initial shipments. I also asked about their website which only shows the 45 Colts and she restated what the last CS person told me previously, that they are redoing their website completely and it should be finished later in the spring or summer (Why so long?). So, the current website is not being updated. |
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Posted: 2/15/2018 10:15:21 PM EDT
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I've been wanting one for a couple years now in the 20" model but haven't seen one anywhere. I have been waiting for them to come back into the fold.
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Posted: 2/17/2018 1:41:07 PM EDT
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I've been wanting one for a couple years now in the 20" model but haven't seen one anywhere. I have been waiting for them to come back into the fold. |
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Posted: 3/17/2018 11:14:42 PM EDT
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I looked at Rossi's website and while all the 92s are listed as 45 Colt when you click on each model it says also available in 38/357, 44 magnum, 44-40, and 454 Casull.
Maybe the other calibers are on the way back into stores. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 5:02:38 PM EDT
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I looked at Rossi's website and while all the 92s are listed as 45 Colt when you click on each model it says also available in 38/357, 44 magnum, 44-40, and 454 Casull. Maybe the other calibers are on the way back into stores. I already load .44-40 for an 1873 and an 1860 Henry. |
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Posted: 3/20/2018 8:59:41 PM EDT
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How hard is it to get a replacement buttstock from Rossi?
Want to SBR a Ranch Hand. 
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Posted: 3/20/2018 11:27:40 PM EDT
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How hard is it to get a replacement buttstock from Rossi? Want to SBR a Ranch Hand. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ppppp_desktop_rossi_ranch_hand_tfb-tm-tfb.jpg |
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Posted: 3/21/2018 6:40:27 AM EDT
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How hard is it to get a replacement buttstock from Rossi? Want to SBR a Ranch Hand. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ppppp_desktop_rossi_ranch_hand_tfb-tm-tfb.jpg |
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Posted: 3/21/2018 6:47:53 AM EDT
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Love my JM Marlin 1884 CSS.
Buddy has a Rossi M92 Stainless. I want one of those too. |
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Posted: 3/21/2018 11:18:45 AM EDT
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How hard is it to get a replacement buttstock from Rossi? Want to SBR a Ranch Hand. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ppppp_desktop_rossi_ranch_hand_tfb-tm-tfb.jpg |
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Posted: 3/30/2018 2:01:17 PM EDT
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Well they are hitting the dealers now. I just picked up a Rossi 357 Blued 16" 92 this morning. Will try to test fire it this weekend and then off to Morgan to do his magic.
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Posted: 4/1/2018 7:18:45 PM EDT
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Well they are hitting the dealers now. I just picked up a Rossi 357 Blued 16" 92 this morning. Will try to test fire it this weekend and then off to Morgan to do his magic. |
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Posted: 4/2/2018 9:01:27 PM EDT
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Seriously, some additional info please..? there is nothing available online...
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Posted: 4/3/2018 8:10:56 AM EDT
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This dealer has a small backyard shop. Friend of mine. He was on backorder with Lipsey's. They called last week and said they had what he was on backorder for which was my rifle. He asked if he could get any more and they said no that all were sold on backorders. About 60 rifles were gone in 1 1/2 days.
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Posted: 4/3/2018 10:16:37 AM EDT
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That was the case about 2 years ago. The guns put out in 2017 are good quality. The haters are just sour grapes with highly unrealistic expectations with gross bias and a nostalgia for JM's that never really existed. Go look at one yourself. I bet dollars to donuts you'll be pleased with what you see. If Marlin ever puts out another .357, they won't be able to keep them in stock for 5 years or more due to high volume of sales. It'll crash the rest of the .357 market. Bought last year. |
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Posted: 4/3/2018 8:25:40 PM EDT
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This dealer has a small backyard shop. Friend of mine. He was on backorder with Lipsey's. They called last week and said they had what he was on backorder for which was my rifle. He asked if he could get any more and they said no that all were sold on backorders. About 60 rifles were gone in 1 1/2 days. 
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