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Posted: 11/30/2018 11:28:41 PM EDT
You read the title, how do some people have silky smooth actions on their AR's?? Is it a type of lube they use? Their buffer spring? Or just wearing out the gun over time? My AR is slightly heavy and crunchy when it comes to pulling the charging handle.. My AR is also brand spanking new, however the rails on the charging handle are already worn out. I keep my AR constantly wet with mobil 1 and gun grease..Should I swap out my charging handle or just keep using my AR in hopes that it'll get smoother over time?
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Good parts, wear, lube and a solid charging handle with smooth things out.
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Was just curious. Your action spring will become a bit less obnoxious when the receiver extension becomes smoother from wear. If it is a cheap extension, with rough machining, it will take a lot longer. Some have dry film lube, and are nice and smooth.
Get a quality charging handle, lube it, and shoot the hell out of it. |
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Quoted: Was just curious. Your action spring will become a bit less obnoxious when the receiver extension becomes smoother from wear. If it is a cheap extension, with rough machining, it will take a lot longer. Some have dry film lube, and are nice and smooth. Get a quality charging handle, lube it, and shoot the hell out of it. View Quote |
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Quoted: Hmm. Interesting you mention the receiver extension; I never thought about that. It's a pretty high quality AR, just needs some use I guess. :) What charging handle do you recommend? I've been meaning to replace mine with something higher quality but they tend to be near $100.. View Quote |
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Break in will def help some.
I likey the nibx Fortis hammer CH may be what u seek |
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Action spring /receiver extension/charging handle/carrier rails/upper receiver machining....check them all.
Your charging handle is "worn out"? Are you talking finish wear? At ~300 rds, nothing should be worn out. |
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If you're already running good grease and quality components (CH, RE) that have worn in a little bit, you can get the last little bit of smoothness from a captive spring.
JP SCS Armaspec SRS SI RRS They're not for everybody, definitely cost more and add weight over a traditional buffer and spring setup, but damn if they aren't nice. Loving my SRS with an AGB and suppressor. |
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I just put together a 6.5 Grendel and the mil spec buffer tube from Brownells was horrible. The ID felt like it was threaded and the action felt dry as a bone. Replaced it with a Trinity from midsouth and it is nice and smooth.
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A good used Colt CH would be a consideration. But perhaps it'd be no better than your current one. What do you have? A few months ago I replaced a nothing ch with a Raptor LT for the ambi feature. Immediately I observed (visual) and experienced a noticeable "stoutness" and smoother pull with it. Not as much slop. Believe the other was from PSA (very flimsy and loose comparatively speaking). Though costly to me, they can be found under 60.00. View Quote |
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Action spring /receiver extension/charging handle/carrier rails/upper receiver machining....check them all. Your charging handle is "worn out"? Are you talking finish wear? At ~300 rds, nothing should be worn out. View Quote |
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I just put together a 6.5 Grendel and the mil spec buffer tube from Brownells was horrible. The ID felt like it was threaded and the action felt dry as a bone. Replaced it with a Trinity from midsouth and it is nice and smooth. View Quote |
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Quoted: It's a LWRC m6ic direct impingement, stock internals. The wear looks something like this, but A LOT LESS, and the upper receiver shows no signs of wear whatsoever. https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjA28Styv_eAhUxFjQIHRFyAfEQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hkpro.com%2Fforum%2Fhk416-hk417-hq%2F203262-help-mr556a1-charging-handle-destroying-my-gun.html&psig=AOvVaw2fS5SJ3Mnf_XZv3wq7cZGW&ust=1543786323379345 View Quote As for the feel when charging, spring and receiver extension are most likely the major contributors. How is the machining/finish inside the extension? An upgraded spring would help (Damage Industries enhanced springs are great), some light grease on the carrier rails may help also. Run it wet for ~500 rds, it'll likely feel much nicer. |
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So not "worn out", just wear in the anodizing. Not a huge issue, IME. As for the feel when charging, spring and receiver extension are most likely the major contributors. How is the machining/finish inside the extension? An upgraded spring would help (Damage Industries enhanced springs are great), some light grease on the carrier rails may help also. Run it wet for ~500 rds, it'll likely feel much nicer. View Quote |
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There are only 3 springs that I will use: USGI (Colt), Damage Industries enhanced, and Sprinco.
The DI enhanced is very close to a quality stock spring. Quieter and smoother in my perception. Sprinco springs are geared more towards tuning and labeled as such. I've not noticed much difference in changing springs alone as for tuning, more when changing springs and buffer weights in combination on certain guns. There is definitely some marketing ploy in some "wonder springs" , IME. Do some research before shelling out cash on one with high expectations. SPRINCO SPRINGS DAMAGE INDUSTRIES ENHANCED |
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Did you look at the finish on the interior of your receiver extension, yet? Is yours coated with dry film?
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Make sure you put some oil or grease inside the receiver extension itself.
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Hmm. Interesting you mention the receiver extension; I never thought about that. It's a pretty high quality AR, just needs some use I guess. :) What charging handle do you recommend? I've been meaning to replace mine with something higher quality but they tend to be near $100.. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Was just curious. Your action spring will become a bit less obnoxious when the receiver extension becomes smoother from wear. If it is a cheap extension, with rough machining, it will take a lot longer. Some have dry film lube, and are nice and smooth. Get a quality charging handle, lube it, and shoot the hell out of it. What type of AR did you get? |
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Put at least 1000 rounds through it before changing anything.
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Round count and lube.
My AR15s have all broken in. But the sandy feeling you describe when pulling the charging handle back on a new AR will go away in time. |
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I have been using the Spike's Tactical buffer tube kits - nice smooth dry film coating inside the tube and their powedered tungsten buffers to eliminate the noise from the buffer weights. Very noticeable difference from regular mil-spec tubes and buffers. Their spring also has a very smooth (polished) finish compared to some I've seen.
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Ar's are like most pistols. Keep them lubed and shoot them. They break in and parts mate creating a silky smooth action. I tend to charge and dry fire quite a bit. Barely any anodizing left on the charging handle. Without dry fire that takes a long time to smooth out because you only need to charge it to start shooting. Several hundred times dry charging breaks it in well. I love smooth operating guns. Cant stand anything to feel gritty. Couldnt care less about the loss of anodizing in the charging handle.
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I agree with everything about breaking in and lube. I have to say that on my m&p15 changing the factory charging handle to a Radian Raptor made a huge difference. I didn't think it could. I bought it for the grip options and to not break my roll pin as easily. But it definitely made it smoother. I switched back and forth to make sure my mind wasn't playing tricks. So yes, break it in and that can't be understated. Lube it. But get a good charging handle too.
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I agree with everything about breaking in and lube. I have to say that on my m&p15 changing the factory charging handle to a Radian Raptor made a huge difference. I didn't think it could. I bought it for the grip options and to not break my roll pin as easily. But it definitely made it smoother. I switched back and forth to make sure my mind wasn't playing tricks. So yes, break it in and that can't be understated. Lube it. But get a good charging handle too. View Quote |
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Quoted: Which raptor do you have? They have a couple different models. I'm thinking about getting the original one in the distant future. View Quote https://www.midwayusa.com/product/603348/radian-raptor-ambidextrous-charging-handle-assembly-ar-15-aluminum |
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Action spring /receiver extension/charging handle/carrier rails/upper receiver machining....check them all. Your charging handle is "worn out"? Are you talking finish wear? At ~300 rds, nothing should be worn out. View Quote |
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