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Posted: 1/9/2019 11:35:14 AM EDT

11.5”, 14.5”, 16”, 18”

You can only have two. One is dedicated red dot, the other has LPVO mounted. All the rest of your gun money is spent in larger calibers.

What do you do?

Posted: 1/9/2019 11:40:22 AM EDT

[#1]

If all of my remaining money is spent in larger calibers then I go with two 11.5's.

Posted: 1/9/2019 11:41:17 AM EDT

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11.5”, 14.5”, 16”, 18”

You can only have two. One is dedicated red dot, the other has LPVO mounted. All the rest of your gun money is spent in larger calibers.

What do you do?

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16in mid with lpvo
11.5 with red dot
Then a 14.5 clone
Then a 20incher a4 clone

Posted: 1/9/2019 11:44:26 AM EDT

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16in mid with lpvo
11.5 with red dot
Then a 14.5 clone
Then a 20incher a4 clone

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So just the 16” and 11.5”?

Posted: 1/9/2019 11:47:13 AM EDT

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So just the 16” and 11.5”?

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If that's what I had to choose from yes.
But a good 16in recce set up, not a psa 300 dollar urg

Posted: 1/9/2019 11:49:05 AM EDT

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Agree with 11.5 RDS and 16" LPVO.

Posted: 1/9/2019 11:52:22 AM EDT

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Agree with 11.5 RDS and 16" LPVO.

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Same

Posted: 1/9/2019 11:54:58 AM EDT

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Would rifle brand deter your choices at all?

Posted: 1/9/2019 11:58:30 AM EDT

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Agree with 11.5 RDS and 16" LPVO.

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Same here. Would consider LPVO for both

Posted: 1/9/2019 11:58:38 AM EDT

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Yes. If you're buying a factory rifle choose a quality manufacturer. If your building, choose a quality barrel for sure.

Posted: 1/9/2019 11:59:15 AM EDT

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KAC or LMT.

Posted: 1/9/2019 12:02:40 PM EDT

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8.5” and 10.5”

Eta: both red dots.

Posted: 1/9/2019 12:04:00 PM EDT

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Ok so here’s the deal...

I own a KAC SR-15, Mod 1 (16”)

I’m returning from my 4th deployment and would like to buy a second SR-15.

I am leaning towards buying a 11.5” Mod 2. I have purchased everything for it except the rifle itself. T-2, high rise mount, furniture, SD-C, etc...

I only plan on purchasing 2, because my next 2 rifles will be SR-25 and SR-30.

I’m unsure of whether I’ll be happy with 11.5” and 16”, as 14.5” seems to be a very soft/sweet all around gun, especially from KAC.

Would this deter any of your choices?

Posted: 1/9/2019 12:07:01 PM EDT

[#13]

11.5 w/ RDS
18 w/ LVPO

Posted: 1/9/2019 12:08:46 PM EDT

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18” even though future guns will be larger caliber?

Posted: 1/9/2019 12:12:16 PM EDT

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Ok so here’s the deal...

I own a KAC SR-15, Mod 1 (16”)

I’m returning from my 4th deployment and would like to buy a second SR-15.

I am leaning towards buying a 11.5” Mod 2. I have purchased everything for it except the rifle itself. T-2, high rise mount, furniture, SD-C, etc...

I only plan on purchasing 2, because my next 2 rifles will be SR-25 and SR-30.

I’m unsure of whether I’ll be happy with 11.5” and 16”, as 14.5” seems to be a very soft/sweet all around gun, especially from KAC.

Would this deter any of your choices?

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KAC is great and a 16in middy will shoot soft. Plus no need to worry about pin and weld.
11.5 sbr will work great too.

Posted: 1/9/2019 12:14:46 PM EDT

[#16]

16 and 11.5"

Posted: 1/9/2019 12:37:26 PM EDT

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11.5", 14.5", 16", 18"

You can only have two. One is dedicated red dot, the other has LPVO mounted. All the rest of your gun money is spent in larger calibers.

What do you do?

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Strange Game. Didn't say I could not pick calibers or brands of optics.

11.5" .300 Blk with Red Dot
18" 5.56 with a Burris or Vortex LPVO
Both suppressed... As long as I waited for the man to say I could have my cans, I'm not giving them up.

Posted: 1/9/2019 12:42:05 PM EDT

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If I can only have 2 then here's my choice and why

18" LPVO (which is what I actually have) to maximize accuracy and velocity out of the platform and what I am assuming is going to be chambered in 5.56/223 Wylde or Gendal. This would be more a DMR/varmit platform or for general purpose target shooting.

My other choice would be the 11" in 300 BLK with the Red Dot because home defense; I'd want to put a can on it eventually. Probably do this as a pistol to avoid additional ATF fees and paperwork. Plus this would give me a reason to get can for those hypothetical large caliber rifles that could be swapped as needed.

Why not 14.5" or 16"? because for longer range the 18" does it better, and for home defense I'd want to be quieter if I'm going 300 BLK anyway. If I'm putting the Silencer on in it that adds length and weight so I'd want the shortest option to make maneuvering in the home easier.

Well that's my 2 cents.

Posted: 1/9/2019 12:43:27 PM EDT

[#19]

11.5 RDS
16 LPVO

Posted: 1/9/2019 12:56:25 PM EDT

[#20]

WTF is wrong with 20"?

Posted: 1/9/2019 1:00:49 PM EDT

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Just make sure you plan to have a can if going with 11.5. If you plan on shooting it indoors. At least I think that's probably good advice. But the funny thing about that is then it makes it as long as a 16"er. But would be quieter than the 16"er without a can. I think....

I don't have a can, so I'm kind of talking out of my butt. But I do have a 14.7"er with a perm A2 and that thing is about as loud as any rifle I have. Or louder. The shorter you go with that barrel, the louder it gets. I'm not sure why but I feel like I can tell a big difference between my 16" and that one. And certainly my 20"er.

It's only usually an issue when I'm shooting under a covered range. If I'm at the range with no cover, it's not much of an issue.

Posted: 1/9/2019 1:06:04 PM EDT

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Ok so here’s the deal...

I own a KAC SR-15, Mod 1 (16”)

I’m returning from my 4th deployment and would like to buy a second SR-15.

I am leaning towards buying a 11.5” Mod 2. I have purchased everything for it except the rifle itself. T-2, high rise mount, furniture, SD-C, etc...

I only plan on purchasing 2, because my next 2 rifles will be SR-25 and SR-30.

I’m unsure of whether I’ll be happy with 11.5” and 16”, as 14.5” seems to be a very soft/sweet all around gun, especially from KAC.

Would this deter any of your choices?

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Hell no. My ARs are all slowly morphing to SBR/Pistol length aside from my 16” “RECCE” and my A1 and A2 “clones.”

I see zero need for anything much longer, especially with the introduction of larger caliber platforms.

Posted: 1/9/2019 1:06:58 PM EDT

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How about no LPVO.
A 1.8-10X with backup RMR on the 16" rifle and a Aimpoint M4 on the SBR, probably a 11.5 if I couldn't have a 10.5".

Posted: 1/9/2019 1:07:20 PM EDT

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WTF is wrong with 20"?

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It’s unnecessary in the practical sense, outside of nostalgia.

Posted: 1/9/2019 1:10:30 PM EDT

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Just make sure you plan to have a can if going with 11.5. If you plan on shooting it indoors. At least I think that's probably good advice. But the funny thing about that is then it makes it as long as a 16"er. But would be quieter than the 16"er without a can. I think....

I don't have a can, so I'm kind of talking out of my butt. But I do have a 14.7"er with a perm A2 and that thing is about as loud as any rifle I have. Or louder. The shorter you go with that barrel, the louder it gets. I'm not sure why but I feel like I can tell a big difference between my 16" and that one. And certainly my 20"er.

It's only usually an issue when I'm shooting under a covered range. If I'm at the range with no cover, it's not much of an issue.

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An 11.5” with a can is going to be a lot more quiet than a 16” without a can.

Posted: 1/9/2019 1:10:31 PM EDT

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If all of my remaining money is spent in larger calibers then I go with two 11.5's.

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Posted: 1/9/2019 1:21:25 PM EDT

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11.5”, 14.5”, 16”, 18”

You can only have two. One is dedicated red dot, the other has LPVO mounted. All the rest of your gun money is spent in larger calibers.

What do you do?

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Red dot: I'd go with an 11.5" pistol, LAW folder with the SBA3 brace.

LPVO: 16" stainless "recce" style rifle, with a priority on low weight.

That pretty much covers all your bases in 5.56 IMO.

Posted: 1/9/2019 1:36:41 PM EDT

[#28]

Sounds good guys...

So keep my 16” mod 1 and pick up the 11.5” mod 2 seems to be the consensus.

Posted: 1/9/2019 1:48:40 PM EDT

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Thing I like about this thread is, really it's opinion and based on what YOU would want for the given options. There is no wrong answers, because you know what you need or would prefer.

Posted: 1/9/2019 2:08:47 PM EDT

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Another vote for 16” with lpvo and 11.5” with rds.

Posted: 1/9/2019 2:10:17 PM EDT

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WTF is wrong with 20"?

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The darn thing has a barrel 20" long!

Posted: 1/9/2019 2:10:25 PM EDT

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An 11.5” with a can is going to be a lot more quiet than a 16” without a can.

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I figured and that makes sense. Thank you for clarifying.

Posted: 1/9/2019 2:30:03 PM EDT

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Mk18 (mod 0 or mod 1 depending on preference) rds

Mk12 mod holland lpvo.

Stick with proven and what i know best.

Posted: 1/9/2019 3:39:47 PM EDT

[#34]

16" LPVO (I'd prefer a prism).

20" red dot.

Posted: 1/9/2019 3:41:52 PM EDT

[#35]

11.5" red dot, suppressed.

16" recce

Posted: 1/9/2019 3:42:47 PM EDT

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Now I’m considering selling my SCAR 16 to fund picking up a 14.5” Mod2 also...

Posted: 1/9/2019 4:00:07 PM EDT

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11.5" and 14.5".

Posted: 1/9/2019 4:49:16 PM EDT

[#38]

11.5 with RDS
And LVPO on a 16” or even 18”.

Posted: 1/9/2019 4:50:16 PM EDT

[#39]

10.3 and 17.9

Posted: 1/9/2019 5:15:11 PM EDT

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Ok so here’s the deal...

I own a KAC SR-15, Mod 1 (16”)

I’m returning from my 4th deployment and would like to buy a second SR-15.

I am leaning towards buying a 11.5” Mod 2. I have purchased everything for it except the rifle itself. T-2, high rise mount, furniture, SD-C, etc...

I only plan on purchasing 2, because my next 2 rifles will be SR-25 and SR-30.

I’m unsure of whether I’ll be happy with 11.5” and 16”, as 14.5” seems to be a very soft/sweet all around gun, especially from KAC.

Would this deter any of your choices?

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I thought this was a "what if" scenario and not something you were actually considering. I still keep my original thought of two 11.5's though. One to run and one for parts or run them both suppressed. You could get a 300BO upper to interchange. Then add the 51mm, and an AK and you're set!

Thank you for your service.

Posted: 1/9/2019 5:17:57 PM EDT

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11.5”, 14.5”, 16”, 18”

You can only have two. One is dedicated red dot, the other has LPVO mounted. All the rest of your gun money is spent in larger calibers.

What do you do?

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11.5 SBR with Aimpoint
14.5 SBR with LPVO

You said the rest of my money is in larger calibers, so I don't need 16+

This is sort of what I have going on, now. All of my ARs are 14.5, or shorter. The only 16" AR I have is a .308

Posted: 1/9/2019 5:57:56 PM EDT

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11.5”, 14.5”, 16”, 18”

You can only have two. One is dedicated red dot, the other has LPVO mounted. All the rest of your gun money is spent in larger calibers.

What do you do?

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11.5 (SR-16 Urx 3.1) With my Vortex Ranger 1-4x24 (Gen 1 Viper) or Elcan Spectre Gen 1-2
16 CCU With TA31 USMC

Posted: 1/9/2019 7:41:03 PM EDT

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11.5" iron sights and/or red dot
16" with LPVO

Posted: 1/9/2019 8:13:36 PM EDT

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I am congruent with this mindset as well.

Based on the options, if I were only going to have 2 guns:
LMT MARS/MLC and 11.5"
LMT MARS/MLR and 16" barrel

I love some KAC rifles too, but limiting ourselves to 2 guns I think gives the edge to LMT since you can run a 16" barrel in the CQB length chassis.

Posted: 1/10/2019 10:27:17 AM EDT

[#45]

11.5 Red dot

14.5 LPVO

Posted: 1/10/2019 12:08:54 PM EDT

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My current favorite rifles are my 11.3" (BA Lwt Hanson profile, aimpoint Pro in a large mount, ALG rail, law folder,) and my 14.5" BCM lightweight with centurion C4 rail with a Leupold VX-R patrol 1.25-4x.

Really though, the difference between a 14.5" and a 16" are minimal. For me, it's just that it packs smaller.

Posted: 1/10/2019 1:05:28 PM EDT

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I have my choices... a registered LMT MK18 with 1.5 x 16 ACOG and a 16" mid with TA31F 4x32 ACOG ( with roll over fixed) if you get used to the Bindon Aiming Concept the illuminated chevron is at 1x if needed quickly, and the stadia lines give you ~10" hold off at indicated distances as well as range finding... the range finding stadia lines subtend 19" at indicated distances

Posted: 1/10/2019 3:21:41 PM EDT

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Personally, it would be a 10.3 with fixed irons and a red dot.

From your choices. Why not just register your lower, trade up to the 11.5 and mount a LPVO with offset red dot? If you’re going with an SR25 down the road you really won’t need a 16” 5.56 or the SR30 really.