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Posted: 9/10/2018 2:50:36 PM EDT
Are they just too long/awkward?
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 12:05:40 AM EDT
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You answered your own question!
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 12:18:15 AM EDT
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and heavy
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 12:28:53 AM EDT
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I prefer 20 round magazines because I shoot a lot laying on the ground. 30's interfere with my position.

40's would make it impossible. Getting in and out of a vehicle would be harder. Reliability is suspect.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 12:49:54 AM EDT
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I own 5-100 rd mags they all have a place imo
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 12:50:31 AM EDT
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I prefer 20 round magazines because I shoot a lot laying on the ground. 30's interfere with my position.

40's would make it impossible. Getting in and out of a vehicle would be harder. Reliability is suspect.
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Agreed
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 12:58:51 AM EDT
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30s are the sweet spot for capacity, weight, length, storage in pouches and pockets, and usefulness in prone shooting positions.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 1:35:06 AM EDT
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I see some of you have never heard of or understand the concept of diminishing returns.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 2:41:47 AM EDT
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I prefer 20 round magazines because I shoot a lot laying on the ground. 30's interfere with my position.

40's would make it impossible. Getting in and out of a vehicle would be harder. Reliability is suspect.
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Link Posted: 9/8/2018 3:05:19 AM EDT
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All of the things people mentioned above, plus only one company that I know of (Magpul) makes a pretty legit, tested, proven 40. Maybe other companies don't make them because they can't make them reliable?
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 4:18:58 AM EDT
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Carry those for a few miles and youll be ditching gear
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 4:25:20 AM EDT
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Just because they make larger capacity magazines, does not mean they are practical in an actual firefight or defensive situation..  Putting a 100 rounder under an AR changes the balance of the gun and the swing factor of the gun.  Ya they are fun when you are out for a day of shooting or doing a few mag dumps from them in a full auto situation, but they are not practical and they are heavy.

My favorite mag in a practical use situation is the 20 round, the gun is balanced, it swings easy and it is pretty easy to control even doing a full mag dump in full auto mode.  It really does not take that long to drop and lock a new mag into the gun even under chaotic situations.

Those who are always asking about why hasn't this become the standard has never humped several miles with full gear before!

Link Posted: 9/8/2018 5:15:52 AM EDT
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You prefer them?  Other than the capacity...why?
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 5:41:00 AM EDT
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Yep OP. I gave it a solid try for a while in a work rifle with the Pmag 40, just a little too long and awkward. Couldn't get used to it. 30 is the goldilocks size.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 6:30:02 AM EDT
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I've gone to magpul 40's for one carbine.

The one I take on road trips.

The rifle is cased, in the trunk, and I figure if it need to get it out then I'll be pulling the carbine out of the case, inserting the magazine and shit will be bad enough I'll want a bunch or rounds in a hurry.

Everything else is staying 30's.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 8:19:36 AM EDT
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A short reliable quad stacked 30 or 40 rd mag would be nice! Keep it short for prone shooting.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 10:02:56 AM EDT
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I love Magpul 40s for shooting prone. To me they're the perfect height for clearing grass and/or raising the gun just a tad if you're wearing any kind if vest loaded with junk.

I run 30s just because I have a bunch of 30s.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 10:13:07 AM EDT
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One could always couple mags if higher cap is desired.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 10:38:13 AM EDT
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Because they aren’t practical..and heavy... the M16 is supposed to be a lightweight weapon.

Very few weapons use more than 30 rounds mags.. the galil is one of them..
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 10:44:01 AM EDT
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I like using Magpul 40s with my X95.  Hardly ever with anything else.  They usually just stay loaded on a shelf.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 10:53:08 AM EDT
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Magpul D60 is shorter than a 30rnd PMAG... and dead nuts reliable (even full auto suppressed)

just sayin.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 10:55:55 AM EDT
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My Magpul 40s  have been 100% reliable. They are the only 40s I have used that have never had a failure. I like them for the fun of it but still run 30s most often. I have found a 40 round full auto mag dump it a great way to relieve stress and tension. Just what the doctor ordered. :o)
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 11:03:39 AM EDT
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My experience with mag couplers is, they don't work. Magpul's coupler does couple the mags together real neat, but soon as you start firing the recoil starts to knock the top round partially out of the mag in the unused mag, you have to push it back in,thus there is no quick swap, defeating the purpose. Magpul says put the dust cover on it, but then that defeats the purpose by having to remove the dust cover before swapping mags. You can knock the first round partially out by simply slapping the coupled mags in your hand. Mag couplers just don't work in my opinion if the goal is a fast swap of the coupled mags.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 11:03:52 AM EDT
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Carry those for a few miles and youll be ditching gear
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I own 5-100 rd mags they all have a place imo
Carry those for a few miles and youll be ditching gear
That’s everything from 5rd -100rd mags. I guess I should have clarified that better.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 11:16:16 AM EDT
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My experience with mag couplers is, they don't work. Magpul's coupler does couple the mags together real neat, but soon as you start firing the recoil starts to knock the top round partially out of the mag in the unused mag, you have to push it back in,thus there is no quick swap, defeating the purpose. Magpul says put the dust cover on it, but then that defeats the purpose by having to remove the dust cover before swapping mags. You can knock the first round partially out by simply slapping the coupled mags in your hand. Mag couplers just don't work in my opinion if the goal is a fast swap of the coupled mags.
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One could always couple mags if higher cap is desired.
My experience with mag couplers is, they don't work. Magpul's coupler does couple the mags together real neat, but soon as you start firing the recoil starts to knock the top round partially out of the mag in the unused mag, you have to push it back in,thus there is no quick swap, defeating the purpose. Magpul says put the dust cover on it, but then that defeats the purpose by having to remove the dust cover before swapping mags. You can knock the first round partially out by simply slapping the coupled mags in your hand. Mag couplers just don't work in my opinion if the goal is a fast swap of the coupled mags.
I wasted money on a Lancer coupler. Everything you mentioned plus too heavy. Now I just insert a 20 for walking around in the woods and clip another to my belt.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 11:50:42 AM EDT
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The real question here is this :

Why are the ammo manufacturers not selling us 30rd boxes of ammo? 20 or 50? We need 30 rds per box.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 12:01:02 PM EDT
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Why are the ammo manufacturers not selling us 30rd boxes of ammo? 20 or 50? We need 30 rds per box.
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IMI offers 30 rnds boxes

Don’t know about the 20 but the 50 rounds box make easier to do ammo count just store multiples of 150 and you’ll be fine
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 12:12:43 PM EDT
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Why are the ammo manufacturers not selling us 30rd boxes of ammo? 20 or 50? We need 30 rds per box.
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We buy in bulk on arfcom

It's amazing how you get used to the "clearance" you have with 20s and 30s.  I bought 2 of those 40s when I heard about them.  Damn things wouldn't fit anywhere in my bags or ammo boxes on range day, and I kept smacking the bottom of it on everything at the shooting bench, when in the rifle.  Went home, and immediately gave them to my son.  He and his buddies had fun with them, blasting.  I noticed they get left behind, even with him.  He goes to the range with a pile of 20s and 30s, just like his old man.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 1:07:53 PM EDT
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Yes, buy in bulk all the things ar15.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 3:07:58 PM EDT
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30s are cheaper. Magpul 40s are $20, 30s are 10-15. PSA 30s (d&h I believe) are 6.99.

The one thing I like 40s for is stuffing in my pockets.

Try to draw a 30 round magazine from your pocket then try a 40 round. Much easier imo. I keep a 30 or d-60 in my gun, depending on if I am home or not, and stuff a 40 in my pocket for a reload.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 3:10:31 PM EDT
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20 rounders are the bestest
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 3:52:03 PM EDT
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Monopod
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 3:54:26 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/8/2018 4:15:50 PM EDT
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I use Magpul 40s in 3gun all the time. Very reliable. But if I had to kit up and hump a full load it would be 30s
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 4:21:30 PM EDT
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FPNI.

I hate mags bigger than 30 (SF60s and D60s excepted due to dimensions) in 5.56 for the same reason I hate mags larger than 20 in .308. Too damned long and awkward.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 6:58:40 PM EDT
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Get Daniel Defense 32rd mags.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 7:24:45 PM EDT
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The problem isn't just length, but weight.
All these pajama boys that cry because the best red dot mount weighs 0.05 grams more than their Wally World special, well what would they do with the added weight.
I think someone should start marketing "Pajama Boys" assault rifle parts, with a special line of 5 round magazines, complete with camo pajamas with built in 5 round mag pockets.
You know these guys, they are the same dudes (dudettes?) that declare any rifle without a special lightweight pencil profile barrel inferior in all respects.
I guess these guys don't really shoot their rifles because the carbon deposits might increase the weight another 0.001 micro milligrams and they'd need a forklift to get it to the firing bench.
I guess none of these guys ever heard of a BAR.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 8:49:05 PM EDT
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Why are the ammo manufacturers not selling us 30rd boxes of ammo? 20 or 50? We need 30 rds per box.
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The Egyptians issued 36 round boxes of 9mm ball, tailored to the 36 round mags of their Port Saids. I've still got a couple of hundreds rounds of that stuff.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 8:53:25 PM EDT
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I have 15 or 20 PMAG 40 rounders only because gun grabbers don't want me too. I've never actually used them. I find 20 rounders to be the most practical size in most situations, for me even 30 round mags are awkward when prone.
Link Posted: 9/8/2018 8:56:45 PM EDT
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30s are the sweet spot for capacity, weight, length, storage in pouches and pockets, and usefulness in prone shooting positions.
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This
Link Posted: 9/9/2018 12:08:10 AM EDT
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A short reliable quad stacked 30 or 40 rd mag would be nice! Keep it short for prone shooting.
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Reliable is the problem with them in the past.
Link Posted: 9/9/2018 3:34:51 AM EDT
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Why are the ammo manufacturers not selling us 30rd boxes of ammo? 20 or 50? We need 30 rds per box.
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This.

Boxes of 30, 60, 90, etc.
Link Posted: 9/9/2018 4:37:04 AM EDT
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This.

Boxes of 30, 60, 90, etc.
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Well if you are old school like me, who uses 20 round mags the majority of time, the 20 round boxes work out great..
Link Posted: 9/9/2018 6:53:45 AM EDT
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This.

Boxes of 30, 60, 90, etc.
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Because a lot of us prefer and use 20 round mags.  I can't remember the last time I used a 30.  Open 3 boxes and load a spare mag.
Link Posted: 9/9/2018 7:48:35 AM EDT
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I am all about the Denis-60
Link Posted: 9/9/2018 8:30:25 AM EDT
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The standard mag for the Galil was 35rds and the HK33 was 40rds. The HK33 mags are long as are Galil mags. Worse is the 50rd Mag the SADF issued to their troops as their primary weapon mag.
Link Posted: 9/9/2018 9:04:33 AM EDT
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Tried bolting a RediMag to my M4A1 when first issued.  Weight balance is off.  I usually get ammo loaded in 120 rd bandoleers so 30 rds on strippers per pocket.  Remove white string and 30 rd mags fit into bandoleer.

CD
Link Posted: 9/9/2018 9:05:06 AM EDT
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This thread reminds me of the 50 rd drum for the Thompson.  Only in the movies do you ever see anyone use the 50 rounder, and not only is it full of blanks, the actor doesn't have to lug it all day.

I already had a 40 rounder for my Mini-14 (it's an A-Team thing,) and the length and weight was noticeable over a 30.
Link Posted: 9/9/2018 9:08:04 AM EDT
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I prefer 20 round magazines because I shoot a lot laying on the ground. 30's interfere with my position.

40's would make it impossible. Getting in and out of a vehicle would be harder. Reliability is suspect.
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Agree with this
Link Posted: 9/9/2018 9:16:02 AM EDT
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Magpul D60 is shorter than a 30rnd PMAG... and dead nuts reliable (even full auto suppressed)

just sayin.
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It's also heavy as a brick, and a pain in the ass to load.
Mine is useful as a stand for taking pictures of the gun, and that's pretty much it.
Link Posted: 9/9/2018 9:20:55 AM EDT
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I like the Surefire 60s. I have 4 of these magazines and they work very well and not that heavy and not that terribly longer. Just fatter but it fits most double mag pouches.

The only down side is that it is extremely expensive and complex. I have no idea how it would perform in combat conditions but otherwise at courses and ranges they seem to function fine. For the same price, you can buy a half dozen standard mags.
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