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Posted: 8/27/2018 8:19:17 PM EDT
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I won’t pay a penny over $89,998.
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Posted: 8/27/2018 8:23:46 PM EDT
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starting bidf of $90K...pass but that norinco for $1800 got my eye but thats still too high.
A colt preban small pin stripped lower $1200 
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Posted: 8/27/2018 8:27:14 PM EDT
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He (seller) forgot to hype that it's a C&R...
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Posted: 8/27/2018 8:28:09 PM EDT
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I saw this too and about died haha. Isn't the market price somewhere around 35k?
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Posted: 8/27/2018 8:32:21 PM EDT
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I saw this too and about died haha. Isn't the market price somewhere around 35k? |
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Posted: 8/27/2018 8:39:22 PM EDT
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Somebody will bite at that price. He doesn't seem to be in any hurry to sell.
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Posted: 8/27/2018 8:40:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/27/2018 8:47:47 PM EDT
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I saw the one advertised as an "ensemble" with just about every accessory you could want that was advertised at 35k a couple years ago. THAT woulda been the one to snatch up. Too bad school is in NY and home is CA
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Posted: 8/27/2018 8:53:31 PM EDT
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Oh Moses smell the roses.
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Posted: 8/27/2018 9:00:20 PM EDT
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People with that kind of cash don't care what the price is, 50k, 90k, if they want it they want it.
I wonder what happened to JFK's AR15's that Colt gave to him, imagine the auction Price on one of his guns! |
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Posted: 8/27/2018 9:11:00 PM EDT
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It’s ok! He has 90 day layaway!! 30k a month for 3 months and its all yours
It does have nice pictures of what an original 601 looks like |
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Posted: 8/27/2018 9:41:34 PM EDT
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I saw the one advertised as an "ensemble" with just about every accessory you could want that was advertised at 35k a couple years ago. THAT woulda been the one to snatch up. Too bad school is in NY and home is CA I've got family all over, however, they happen to be all in ban states. |
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Posted: 8/27/2018 9:55:53 PM EDT
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A few things that are off to me are the drain hole in the stock screw, VP marked barrel, no dimpled sight screw, no roll pin in the lower, stock has a rusted stud but nothing else is really aged like that. Other than those super picky details, overall it is one of the nicest 601's I have seen. Near the end of the life too I believe to all those could be correct pieces which I dont doubt.
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Posted: 8/27/2018 10:18:32 PM EDT
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Also what jumped out at me is the receiver extension that's gray in the front and shiney black after that like a modern tube. The lower might have been refinished with Norrells or something. Kinda looks like overspray on the front of the tube. The lower looks way too good for it's age imo.
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Posted: 8/27/2018 11:49:47 PM EDT
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Maybe he is only willing to part with it at that price.... What's wrong with that? More power to him if he gets it... I hope he gets $120,000 for it.
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Posted: 8/28/2018 8:10:18 AM EDT
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People with that kind of cash don't care what the price is, 50k, 90k, if they want it they want it. I wonder what happened to JFK's AR15's that Colt gave to him, imagine the auction Price on one of his guns!  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 8/28/2018 8:29:09 AM EDT
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It does have nice pictures of what an original 601 looks like |
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Posted: 8/29/2018 2:15:51 AM EDT
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A similar example, if not that gun, was at KC a few years back... It had the full package of accessorize too. I think it sold for 35K high market at the time... Now Id say market is 40-45K... If they were serious it would go to a large auction houses like Morphy, RIA or Cowan with a REAL reserve amount.
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Posted: 8/29/2018 6:43:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you’re referring to the “Coconut Rifle,” serial #106, which was claimed to have been fired by Kennedy but not officially documented, that rifle sold for over 100k a while back. It was documented to have been fired by General LeMay. I bought a set of green 601 furniture off of a guy who claimed to have had it stolen from him a long time ago. The furniture was in pristine condition, apparently coming from the Cooper MacDonald trust, which is where the rifle was shipped from Colt. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/463351/D081CCB5-DDE3-448B-92DF-0741D81D4C4B-653483.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/463351/BFF22CE6-4F5E-4C1C-A37E-7B47A633C902-653484.JPG The photo was even posted here a few times, here is an Archived thread about this, but the links to the photos are now DEAD! My guess is that the commie keepers of the internet scrubbed the photos because they couldn't have the sheeple seeing an icon like JFK using such an evil weapon of death and destruction, it does not fit the narrative. |
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Posted: 8/29/2018 6:59:56 AM EDT
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Is the sling right? Man, I'd like to see it I'm about 30 miles away. Can someone contact seller and find out if it can be viewed?
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Posted: 8/29/2018 8:06:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not sure, but I absolutley did read about Colt giving JFK a couple of AR15s (probably real 601's as I'm sure there is some presidential NFA exemption, or back then, if not, who would dare say a word anyway) a photo of JFK firing an AR15 off his boat & the caption with the photo said Kennedy was using his AR15 for shooting sharks. The photo was even posted here a few times, here is an Archived thread about this, but the links to the photos are now DEAD! My guess is that the commie keepers of the internet scrubbed the photos because they couldn't have the sheeple seeing an icon like JFK using such an evil weapon of death and destruction, it does not fit the narrative. It wouldn't be out of the question. Very interesting, I've never heard the tale or seen the pictures. This was the only rifle that I was aware of that had a potential JFK connection (which is disputed.) However, talking about prices, this is probably the most highly sought after 601 that has ever come up for sale. With other 601s costing anything from 35-50k, I don't see how this one is worth 90k when #106 sold for 103k. That might just be me. |
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Posted: 8/29/2018 8:07:59 AM EDT
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Is the sling right? Man, I'd like to see it I'm about 30 miles away. Can someone contact seller and find out if it can be viewed? |
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Posted: 8/29/2018 5:17:00 PM EDT
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If someone here really, really, really, really wants one here is your chance. Colt 601 auction on gunbroker 
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Posted: 8/29/2018 10:05:28 PM EDT
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I drooled a little bit looking at the pictures. is that strange?
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Posted: 8/30/2018 1:47:09 AM EDT
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A few things that are off to me are the drain hole in the stock screw, VP marked barrel, no dimpled sight screw, no roll pin in the lower, stock has a rusted stud but nothing else is really aged like that. Other than those super picky details, overall it is one of the nicest 601's I have seen. Near the end of the life too I believe to all those could be correct pieces which I dont doubt. |
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Posted: 8/30/2018 1:50:31 AM EDT
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Also what jumped out at me is the receiver extension that's gray in the front and shiney black after that like a modern tube. The lower might have been refinished with Norrells or something. Kinda looks like overspray on the front of the tube. The lower looks way too good for it's age imo. From 000748:  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/30/2018 2:11:13 AM EDT
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Maybe he is only willing to part with it at that price.... What's wrong with that? More power to him if he gets it... I hope he gets $120,000 for it. 
But I have to admit, for his starting bid I'd gladly let go of my unmolested 3-digit 01, with every accessory offered...and even throw in a clone (every piece correct except the lower) for spare parts. Heck, I'd even buy a fancy Pelican case to ship it all in! But I do hope he finds a well-heeled buyer--or that he doesn't sell it if he really doesn't want to. It's not easy to give up something that hard to replace. My questions about the auction...did the grenade spring ever come installed on a rifle from the factory? I've only seen them as unit add-ons. And does the green furniture mean that this was built at the factory as a military rifle? Mine left the factory in the black furniture of a rifle intended for the civilian market, but I have occasionally swapped it with green furniture for photos. I'd like to see the FOIA report on this one to get an idea of where it went from Hartford. |
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Posted: 8/30/2018 2:21:31 AM EDT
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I saw the one advertised as an "ensemble" with just about every accessory you could want that was advertised at 35k a couple years ago. THAT woulda been the one to snatch up. Too bad school is in NY and home is CA  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/30/2018 2:22:15 AM EDT
[#29]
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People with that kind of cash don't care what the price is, 50k, 90k, if they want it they want it. I wonder what happened to JFK's AR15's that Colt gave to him, imagine the auction Price on one of his guns! |
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Posted: 8/30/2018 2:27:29 AM EDT
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So do I! Drive that collector market up! https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_big.gif But I have to admit, for his starting bid I'd gladly let go of my unmolested 3-digit 01, with every accessory offered...and even throw in a clone (every piece correct except the lower) for spare parts. Heck, I'd even buy a fancy Pelican case to ship it all in! But I do hope he finds a well-heeled buyer--or that he doesn't sell it if he really doesn't want to. It's not easy to give up something that hard to replace. My questions about the auction...did the grenade spring ever come installed on a rifle from the factory? I've only seen them as unit add-ons. And does the green furniture mean that this was built at the factory as a military rifle? Mine left the factory in the black furniture of a rifle intended for the civilian market, but I have occasionally swapped it with green furniture for photos. I'd like to see the FOIA report on this one to get an idea of where it went from Hartford. |
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Posted: 8/30/2018 2:40:12 AM EDT
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People with that kind of cash do not ever get "that kind" of cash by paying double or triple for things they want. |
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Posted: 8/30/2018 6:52:54 AM EDT
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The stock screw, I'm not sure about--earlier rifles didn't have the drain hole, but I'm not sure when they started that. Otherwise, the details you mentioned look normal to me. My 3-digit rifle has the "tiny VP" proof mark and also has no sign of ever having had a receiver roll pin installed. |
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Posted: 8/30/2018 9:57:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat looks to be the one
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Posted: 8/30/2018 11:14:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People with that kind of cash do not ever get "that kind" of cash by paying double or triple for things they want. |
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Posted: 8/31/2018 2:24:15 AM EDT
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Triple? Plain Jane m16s go for $30k... This is a 601 transferable NFA item... $30k isn't even in the ballpark - unless someone is desperate to sell. 1 is 32,000 1 is 32,500 and the third one is priced at 34,000 The two I have looked at are nice guns and I am sure the guys are able to negotiated a small amount on them. If is is still for sale next week, I will be looking at the third one, but it is a bit more of a drive for me to get to it, than the first two were. My wife is questioning my sanity, because I already own a few M16 FA guns and I didn't pay over 10K for any of them, in fact my first one I bought while in the service I paid less than a grand for. Transferable M16's are really not as rare as some like to think they are and the only reason they are so expensive is because of the laws that came into effect in 1986. There is no reason for them to be as expensive as they are. The last one I bought was about 3 years ago from a guy I served with. |
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Posted: 8/31/2018 8:31:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know where there are 3 of them right now, I have looked at two of them in the last couple of days. 1 is 32,000 1 is 32,500 and the third one is priced at 34,000 The two I have looked at are nice guns and I am sure the guys are able to negotiated a small amount on them. If is is still for sale next week, I will be looking at the third one, but it is a bit more of a drive for me to get to it, than the first two were. My wife is questioning my sanity, because I already own a few M16 FA guns and I didn't pay over 10K for any of them, in fact my first one I bought while in the service I paid less than a grand for. Transferable M16's are really not as rare as some like to think they are and the only reason they are so expensive is because of the laws that came into effect in 1986. There is no reason for them to be as expensive as they are. The last one I bought was about 3 years ago from a guy I served with. |
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Posted: 8/31/2018 8:34:23 AM EDT
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Post some links so we can compare. I'd sure like to see them with an original 601 lower. But I have my doubts that they are nothing more than M16s with some slapped on 601 parts. But let's see the links. I doubt there are many links as most of the autos are sold by brokers who don’t share pics or info only to buyers as not to hurt the value and keep them ‘rare’ so there aren’t that many pictures out there and it’s unique |
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Posted: 8/31/2018 9:14:59 AM EDT
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A beautiful, all original, 601 sold at the last knob creek for $35k (or less). I know that the ASKING price was 35k, but I don't know what the negotiated price was.
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Posted: 8/31/2018 10:03:33 AM EDT
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A beautiful, all original, 601 sold at the last knob creek for $35k (or less). I know that the ASKING price was 35k, but I don't know what the negotiated price was. |
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Posted: 8/31/2018 10:10:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: An m16 right now is around $25k or so. A 601 is more at about $30-$35k. I doubt there are many links as most of the autos are sold by brokers who don’t share pics or info only to buyers as not to hurt the value and keep them ‘rare’ so there aren’t that many pictures out there and it’s unique |
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Posted: 8/31/2018 10:19:36 AM EDT
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I saw the one advertised as an "ensemble" with just about every accessory you could want that was advertised at 35k a couple years ago. THAT woulda been the one to snatch up. Too bad school is in NY and home is CA |
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Posted: 8/31/2018 1:29:16 PM EDT
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A couple of years ago Colt 603 uppers were all over the EE for $125 - not so much anymore. |
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Posted: 8/31/2018 1:36:42 PM EDT
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Post some links so we can compare. I'd sure like to see them with an original 601 lower. But I have my doubts that they are nothing more than M16s with some slapped on 601 parts. But let's see the links. A lot of FA guns especially some of the collectable ones are never advertised on the internet, it is by word of mouth that they change hands. |
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Posted: 8/31/2018 1:57:49 PM EDT
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Here is a link to a story that was on The Firearm Blog about 3 years ago, concerning a sub 600 serial numbered 601 that was on Gunbroker and the buy it now price on the gun was $25K
Sub 600 numbered Model 601 |
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Posted: 8/31/2018 3:30:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm aware, I got into this right before all of the original stuff began to dry up and managed to get away with some pretty nice stuff. That being said, the number of transferrable 601s has not changed, and I don't think the value has jumped from 35k to 90k in 2 years, especially when most 601s being listed today are still in the 35k range. |
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Posted: 8/31/2018 3:34:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are no links as they are not being advertised on the net, I was told about them by a friend of mine who is also a FFL 7/SOT like I am. The 2 that I have looked at so far are real 601's A lot of FA guns especially some of the collectable ones are never advertised on the internet, it is by word of mouth that they change hands. |
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Posted: 8/31/2018 3:40:05 PM EDT
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Well, they sure are limiting their potential buyers and exposure then - no wonder they have to settle for a much lower price. Sounds like they are desperate or perhaps have been holding on to them since the early 90s when they could be bought for about $4k. Either way, the market has changed drastically in the last 3 years. They should be in the $45-60k range now and will be in the $60-90k range in a few more years... We have bought and sold collectable items long before the internet was even around. |
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Posted: 8/31/2018 5:04:57 PM EDT
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We have bought and sold collectable items long before the internet was even around. |
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Posted: 8/31/2018 5:14:02 PM EDT
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That's my point, the internet is bringing new blood into the game. 10 years ago someone could buy 603 uppers for $40-60 on the cheap, $100 for a 604. Them days are gone forever. Supply/demand. Maybe I'm way off base as you say... That's your opinion and you may be right but I think completely the opposite. Prices are gonna go crazy and a $30-35K 601 NFA is a steal. If I had the money, I'd buy 10 and just sit on them - they are workth way more than $35K. There is really no accurate way to know what parts are still around from the Vietnam era. It was a chaotic time and lots of inventory sheets were doctored up a lot back then. |
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Posted: 8/31/2018 5:52:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Having a different opinion is no problem and it does not bother me at all, but I don't believe they are in the 90K area either and saying those days are long gone is also something we don't know, you never know what someone is gong to find in a warehouse somewhere, I have seen it happen more than a few times over the years. I know when I was in the service working in various Armories, we found a lot of boxes and cases of stuff that had never been used and would not be used in the future, I don't know what happened to much of it because we were concerned with keep our current weapons up to snuff. There is really no accurate way to know what parts are still around from the Vietnam era. It was a chaotic time and lots of inventory sheets were doctored up a lot back then. |
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