Posted: 2/1/2021 11:03:56 PM EDT
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Quote History Quoted:@cod0396 (and others) I'll continue this thread's trajectory and keep out of the purse swinging. Truthfully, I like both chamberings, 5.56 and .300BLK. I own several guns in each and like shooting them both. Yes, my sample size is small on the 62 Fusion bullet. I literally took it hunting once and on that one day, a nice doe came by and I potted her. I was considerably surprised that she ran that far, but I've seen stranger things as well. --I once took a nice 6pt buck with a .308 SP, probably a cheap Remington Core-Lokt or Federal 150gr. Oblique angle shot took him through one lung and literally turned his heart to mush. He ran over 100yds. --So, is a sample size of one an exhaustive study? In no way shape or form! It is at most anecdotal. Tons of external factors go into any shot taken on a game animal. (It doesn't even necessarily translate to a human target, but is the most experience most of us will ever have with real world performance on any given bullet.) I HAVE taken .300BLK on several occasions and have taken a total of 6 deer with it, exclusively with the Barnes 110 TAC-TX bullet. None of which have ever run over about 40yds. So, my experience tells me that .300BLK is more efficient than 5.56 with the right ammo. Now, a review of the thread up until the point I made my statement didn't include much on the 77TMK, which I think is the overall best bullet for a soft target with a .223/5.56 gun. In my head, I was thinking 110 TAC-TX vs "TAP T2, MK262, heavy OTM" and I discounted OP's "or expanding round of choice". ...Then the conversation shifted more to 77TMK vs 110 TAC-TX. This thread may actually cause me to take a 5.56 SBR hunting for whitetails again, just to see how the 77TMK does for me . I've tried the last few years with a 6.5 Grendel SBR using 120gr Fusions but inexplicably, I haven't had a deer come by that I was willing to shoot in over 60 hours of sitting a stand with that gun. (Then I had to switch to my BLK pistol this fall for the MN shotgun/handgun zone and shot a #175 8pt at 6:45 in the morning the first day I sat there!) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quote History Quoted:Quoted:
I'm a big fan of the work you've done and I hope you don't get the wrong impression from this, but I don't think it's fair to judge the performance of a caliber on one bad experience with a specific bullet. 62gr fusion is an outstanding bullet, and while I haven't shot a deer with that exact bullet, I have heard excellent accounts of its performance on various performance. A 200 yard rodeo seems like quite an anomaly assuming that you did your part. Maybe the bullet failed to expand? What was the distance/barrel length used? I'm just curious since I've heard nothing but good things about .223 fusion/gd on deer.
The one bullet I have used on numerous deer and hog is the 77gr TMK, and I have never had any animal run more than 25 yards (most DRT) when shot by one out of a 16" barrel. I'm not sure how the 110gr tac-tx does as far as the actual wound channel is concerned, but the TMK usually begins expanding instantly and creates a 3-4" wound channel while absolutely pulverizing any organs in or near its path. The damage is honestly indistinguishable or even greater than what I've seen from something like a .308 nosler ballistic tip. Obviously you're aware of its stellar performance given that it's one of your 5.56 defensive loads of choice, but what do you think it gives up compared to the 300BLK 110gr tac-tx?
I'm just not seeing how 300BLK is any better with the given conditions in the OP. Especially 9/10 times. What am I missing? While the TMK is top tier and IMO the best bullet in this caliber, gd/fusion and other expanding bullets aren't far behind. @cod0396 (and others) I'll continue this thread's trajectory and keep out of the purse swinging. Truthfully, I like both chamberings, 5.56 and .300BLK. I own several guns in each and like shooting them both. Yes, my sample size is small on the 62 Fusion bullet. I literally took it hunting once and on that one day, a nice doe came by and I potted her. I was considerably surprised that she ran that far, but I've seen stranger things as well. --I once took a nice 6pt buck with a .308 SP, probably a cheap Remington Core-Lokt or Federal 150gr. Oblique angle shot took him through one lung and literally turned his heart to mush. He ran over 100yds. --So, is a sample size of one an exhaustive study? In no way shape or form! It is at most anecdotal. Tons of external factors go into any shot taken on a game animal. (It doesn't even necessarily translate to a human target, but is the most experience most of us will ever have with real world performance on any given bullet.) I HAVE taken .300BLK on several occasions and have taken a total of 6 deer with it, exclusively with the Barnes 110 TAC-TX bullet. None of which have ever run over about 40yds. So, my experience tells me that .300BLK is more efficient than 5.56 with the right ammo. Now, a review of the thread up until the point I made my statement didn't include much on the 77TMK, which I think is the overall best bullet for a soft target with a .223/5.56 gun. In my head, I was thinking 110 TAC-TX vs "TAP T2, MK262, heavy OTM" and I discounted OP's "or expanding round of choice". ...Then the conversation shifted more to 77TMK vs 110 TAC-TX. This thread may actually cause me to take a 5.56 SBR hunting for whitetails again, just to see how the 77TMK does for me . I've tried the last few years with a 6.5 Grendel SBR using 120gr Fusions but inexplicably, I haven't had a deer come by that I was willing to shoot in over 60 hours of sitting a stand with that gun. (Then I had to switch to my BLK pistol this fall for the MN shotgun/handgun zone and shot a #175 8pt at 6:45 in the morning the first day I sat there!) One of the nice things about hog hunting is you can rack up some numbers quickly. In my case, I've shot a bunch with 62gr Gold Dots/Fusions, 110 VMAX with the 300blk, 120gr Gold Dots and ELDs and 123gr SSTs with the 6.5G. I'm also up to 6 deer I think with the 62gr Gold Dots. They all work pretty well, really. I only dress the deer, and can definitely say the Gold Dots are devastating in the vitals, even from an SBR. I've had a few bang-flops and I'd say the farthest a deer has run is under 100 yards. My personal experience for ranking in order of what I least want to be shot by would be 1) 120gr Gold Dot or ELD from the Grendel, 2) 62gr Gold Dot 3) 110gr VMAX. Guess what? Still have 110gr VMAX in my bedside gun. 8" bbl and a full size suppressor, it's quieter and hits harder than a 10.5" 556. My point is that I think they all work and the margins are pretty slim between top and bottom picks. Obviously I'm missing the gold-standard 300blk 110gr TacTX, and I also haven't shot game with the 77gr OTMs or TMKs although I have some of both loaded and they're on my list to try on hogs. In either case, having shot at minimum dozens of hogs with each of my listed rounds I can tell you they all will lay the hurt on a human in sufficient quantity to help them go and meet Jesus. It's still fun to discuss though, and I do have my own personal favorites.
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