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Posted: 5/14/2020 5:51:45 AM EDT
[#1]
But why?
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Posted: 5/14/2020 5:54:58 AM EDT
[#2]
Lancer systems - L5AWM....
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Posted: 5/14/2020 5:58:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tigwelder1971: But why? A combination of curiosity and if Pmags sell out. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 6:20:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lancer systems - L5AWM.... Another vote for Lancer. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 6:52:53 AM EDT
[#5]
what are these new "Mission First Tactical" all about?
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Posted: 5/14/2020 6:56:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By douglasmorris99: what are these new "Mission First Tactical" all about? SAME JUNK AS ORIGINAL EVIDENTLY |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 6:59:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By peacematu: A combination of curiosity and if Pmags sell out. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By peacematu: Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971: But why? A combination of curiosity and if Pmags sell out. Lancer is the only other polymer that I would consider.......and that's only if USGI aluminum mags suddenly disappeared. Lancer has it's share of issues as well. Mainly tight internal tolerances in combination with dirty/dusty environments. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 10:14:19 AM EDT
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Amend 2 seem to work well. You can sometimes catch them on sale for pretty cheap if you want to experiment with different polymer mags.
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Posted: 5/14/2020 11:19:20 AM EDT
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Only other all poly mag worth a shit is the TD MK2
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Posted: 5/14/2020 3:03:50 PM EDT
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You're not allowed to as such questions here without explaining yourself. I know you would take heat.
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Posted: 5/14/2020 3:08:55 PM EDT
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Lancer L5AWM is the only other option that is acceptable for polymer magazines.
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Posted: 5/14/2020 8:16:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KurtVF: You're not allowed to as such questions here without explaining yourself. I know you would take heat. Pmag's status is solid. If the supply dried up and a person wanted polymer, another brand would need to be chosen. I like the appearance of Hexmags. I know they have the 2nd generation ones out, which are supposed to be better than the 1st generation. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 8:38:12 PM EDT
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I understand this question from a theoretical position. But if you are really worried about this, just buy a dozen and be done with it. Each one will last at least 30 uses. So 12 x 30 x 30 = 10,800. At today's prices that's like $4,200 with of ammo.
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Posted: 5/14/2020 9:01:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By peacematu: I like the appearance of Hexmags. I know they have the 2nd generation ones out, which are supposed to be better than the 1st generation. |
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Posted: 5/14/2020 10:34:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AS556: Only other all poly mag worth a shit is the TD MK2 I'll second Tango Down's revised ARC mag, but I'm curious if anyone here has ever had any issues with them. Pat Rogers from EAG "promoted" them in his last few years, using them in his training classes and promotional photos (EAG and BCM). I'm sure he put them through the ringer. I have a Marine friend who deployed to Iraq with some also and reported no issues at all. I have a few of them, and the only issue I ever had was one that wouldn't lock the bolt back on the last round (I mentioned this in the "lemon" thread). It started to lock back inconsistently after a few times at the range. I sent it back to TD, and they said they couldn't replicate the problem in any of their test rifles. The replacement mag they sent me did the same thing, so I think it was a tolerance stacking issue with my primary rifle (a BCM). I'm comfortable counting on them, they're just kind of ugly and not very commonly available. I'm not sure how I feel about the way they can't be disassembled, despite TD's assurances that they won't ever need to be taken apart and cleaned. I can just imagine getting a rock stuck inside one that I can never get out. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:31:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gks452: I understand this question from a theoretical position. But if you are really worried about this, just buy a dozen and be done with it. Each one will last at least 30 uses. So 12 x 30 x 30 = 10,800. At today's prices that's like $4,200 with of ammo. That's a good point. |
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:31:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:35:02 PM EDT
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@3acrScout: Thanks for the generous post. I remember reading Tango mags cannot be taken apart.
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Posted: 5/15/2020 6:42:54 PM EDT
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Lancer is the only polymer I use. Metal I only use surefeed.
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Posted: 5/16/2020 2:49:25 PM EDT
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I've had no issues with the ETS mags using semi-auto. Haven't tried them with FA.
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Posted: 5/17/2020 8:36:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By peacematu: Pmag's status is solid. If the supply dried up and a person wanted polymer, another brand would need to be chosen. I like the appearance of Hexmags. I know they have the 2nd generation ones out, which are supposed to be better than the 1st generation. What about ETS? The one's that are really indestructible like Lancer? I forgot about them. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 6:48:29 PM EDT
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HK! Because they're 5 times more expensive so they must be 5 times better.
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Posted: 5/31/2020 4:22:13 PM EDT
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Lancer L5 for polimer. I'm lucky, my rifles will work with any of them or they are gone. Prefer Lancer and several of the Aluminum brands. I have had no issues with the S2's either but you never Know. Get you several different types and finishes and try them out and then decide. My preference is still the old original USGI 20's.
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Posted: 5/31/2020 5:47:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pmag's status is solid. If the supply dried up and a person wanted polymer, another brand would need to be chosen. I like the appearance of Hexmags. I know they have the 2nd generation ones out, which are supposed to be better than the 1st generation. So why have a discussion forum at all? If everything is settled regarding polymer magazines then the discussion should be limited to metal. Five years ago the only thing that mattered was if your magazine could be run over by a truck then that got too boring because a few companies were able to make indestructible magazines. Then the big thing was how well could your magazine angle the bullet of government issue ammo which almost no one here shoots in nearly the quantity that would make a difference in 10 lifetimes. This place is a fan site more than a technical forum |
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Posted: 6/1/2020 12:47:57 PM EDT
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Another vote for Lancers.
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Posted: 6/2/2020 12:24:10 AM EDT
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Anyone know if Lancer has been used / trialed by .gov? I see the “translucent smoke” colored 30 rd has an NSN number
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Posted: 6/2/2020 9:07:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone know if Lancer has been used / trialed by .gov? I see the “translucent smoke” colored 30 rd has an NSN number I don't know about official govt. trials but my kid is an 11B in the 101st & prefers the Lancers. He said he had a couple P-mags. though they were gen 2 not gen 3 break while in the field. He hasn't had any problems with the Lancers. He prefers the translucent dark earth but before those were readily available, I painted a clear one to cover the areas he said his leadership would gig him on. I used hammertone paint cause I like the look but also thought it would help cover my F ups since I'm not very good with painting. https://flic.kr/p/2j873aM https://flic.kr/p/2j872zo https://flic.kr/p/2j873qg https://flic.kr/p/2j874ek https://flic.kr/p/2j831CC https://flic.kr/p/2j871RE |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 4:34:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know about official govt. trials but my kid is an 11B in the 101st & prefers the Lancers...... I painted a clear one to cover the areas he said his leadership would gig him on. Why would leadership care if his mag was clear? |
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Posted: 6/2/2020 6:01:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would leadership care if his mag was clear? Cause if they see too much brass through a clear mag it will be shiny & the enemy will spot them.  Since the TDE ones have become more readily available, or at least were, that's what I've been getting him. |
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Posted: 6/5/2020 3:55:54 PM EDT
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I've been buying Lancers when I find them on sale. I prefer them over Pmags. I have a bunch of ETS mags also. Haven't had a single problem with them either.
Lancers are my preference. |
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Posted: 6/14/2020 4:26:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone know if Lancer has been used / trialed by .gov? I see the “translucent smoke” colored 30 rd has an NSN number IIRC they came in dead last in M855A1 reliability testing. |
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Posted: 6/14/2020 6:37:25 PM EDT
[#32]
Lancer and Hex
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Posted: 6/14/2020 11:06:57 PM EDT
[#33]
I run Lancer, ETS, and PMags. I'd trust my life to any of them. I'd definitely trust today's casual range session to any of them.
Of the three, I think the ETS gets the least appreciation for how good it is; though my total favorite is the Lancer smoke clear. |
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Posted: 6/15/2020 2:48:16 AM EDT
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Troy mags
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Posted: 6/15/2020 9:21:41 PM EDT
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+1 Lancer
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Posted: 6/15/2020 9:40:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lancer systems - L5AWM.... |
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Posted: 6/15/2020 10:06:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Troy mags Aren't these critisized alot? |
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Posted: 6/15/2020 10:14:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Aren't these critisized alot? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Troy mags Aren't these critisized alot? Well earned. |
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Posted: 6/16/2020 2:57:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Aren't these critisized alot? Probably but they flat out work. |
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Posted: 6/16/2020 6:01:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably but they flat out work. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Aren't these critisized alot? Probably but they flat out work. Mine were great at puking rounds out at the most opportune times. |
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Posted: 6/17/2020 7:46:42 AM EDT
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Not as robust as my PMags but I still enjoy taking my Thermolds to the range and use for plinking. I bought a lot of them back in the '90's when they were cheap and they're still going strong...I don't abuse them or drop them on the ground though.
 I don't have any Lancers yet but I do have a good number of mostly Gen 2 PMags that I have loaded up in ammo cans and set aside. |
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Posted: 6/17/2020 12:25:12 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not as robust as my PMags but I still enjoy taking my Thermolds to the range and use for plinking. I bought a lot of them back in the '90's when they were cheap and they're still going strong...I don't abuse them or drop them on the ground though. ...I have them, too. Do you have the 20 or 30 rounders? I have the 20. |
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Posted: 6/17/2020 1:15:01 PM EDT
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20, 30 and 30/45 Thermold mags for the AR but my favorite are the orange 30 rounders that were intended for blanks...5 minutes with a pocket knife and they're good to go with live ammo. My orange PMags are more of a pumpkin orange compared to the blaze/safety orange color of the Thermolds.
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Posted: 6/20/2020 9:55:17 PM EDT
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I bought 2 ETS mags and Had failure to feed out of both of them. They get jammed in the mag multiple times. Tried steel, brass, nickel plated, they all jamm. They look cool, but that’s about it.
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Posted: 6/20/2020 10:01:18 PM EDT
[#45]
21H and 22H thermolds have always worked well for me.
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Posted: 6/21/2020 1:18:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 20, 30 and 30/45 Thermold mags for the AR but my favorite are the orange 30 rounders that were intended for blanks...5 minutes with a pocket knife and they're good to go with live ammo. My orange PMags are more of a pumpkin orange compared to the blaze/safety orange color of the Thermolds. I forgot to mention, mine say Mastermold on them. |
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Posted: 6/21/2020 1:27:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/21/2020 3:10:50 AM EDT
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I still have a stack of orlites.
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Posted: 6/21/2020 7:36:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I bought 2 ETS mags and Had failure to feed out of both of them. They get jammed in the mag multiple times. Tried steel, brass, nickel plated, they all jamm. They look cool, but that’s about it. Anything unusual about your rifle that could be a culprit? Mods of some kind? ETS is usually pretty reliable, as long as you're using brass. |
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Posted: 6/21/2020 7:46:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Another vote for Lancer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lancer systems - L5AWM.... Another vote for Lancer. And another. Use both L7 AWM and L5 AWM and love 'em. |
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