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Posted: 11/20/2018 6:01:47 PM EDT
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Sometime in 2018 EOtech updated their models to run 2500hrs on AA Lithium vs 1000.
The new logo EOtechs also have the parallax and thermal drift correction... |
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Posted: 11/20/2018 6:25:54 PM EDT
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Sometime in 2018 EOtech updated their models to run 2500hrs on AA Lithium vs 1000. The new logo EOtechs also have the parallax and thermal drift correction... |
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Posted: 11/20/2018 6:52:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/21/2018 12:55:46 AM EDT
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The one I got made in August didn't work. Same as the one I got in 2012.
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Posted: 11/21/2018 1:05:54 PM EDT
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Emailed Eotech to ask...
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Posted: 11/22/2018 2:13:32 PM EDT
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Asked what
 ... did you not see my link to their catalog with the update warranty and battery info?
I just ordered a 518 for my Tavor...was a split between trying the Vortex UH1 but I just cant stand how the reticle fades on it on the left and bottom of the window .75" from to the edge of the glass...so with EOtech updating their battery life and warranty...I went with it instead. |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 2:24:06 PM EDT
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The new logo EOtechs also have the parallax and thermal drift correction... I looked a while back and found no tech info to support that theory. There was also a thread here. Longer battery life and better nitrogen seals were the only improvements anyone could point to (since the recall). |
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Posted: 11/22/2018 5:25:35 PM EDT
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GarandThumb has confirmed it.
and SOCOM chose EOTech again in 2018 with a large contract for their sights as they beat out others during the latest testing with the improved EOtech sights as reported by Soldier Systems. TFB also reported on it during their factory tour of EOtech. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 12:10:13 PM EDT
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An EOTech with a new logo is significantly improved in every way from the old ones. Electronically, materially, parallax, thermal drift and durability. If you can get one with a new logo, it is what you should buy.
Shameless plug, I have one left for sale in the EE. |
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Posted: 11/25/2018 11:23:20 PM EDT
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Asked what ... did you not see my link to their catalog with the update warranty and battery info?
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Asked what ... did you not see my link to their catalog with the update warranty and battery info?
. First response was there are no revisions, after forwarding the verbage you posted, response is: Anything with the new Logo would be current products (2017 and newer). All EOTech sights have a manufacture date on the bottom of the sights |
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Posted: 11/26/2018 10:37:24 AM EDT
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The new logo started in 2017...which had the thermal drift updates....in 2018...they released the updated more efficient battery circuitry with the new 10 year warranty.
Just to be clear...ALL weapon sights will have thermal dift issues when exposed to extreme hot and cold...including Aimpoint...even before the EOtech fiasco a couple of years back...if I shot at severely different temps...I would confirm zero so it was really a none issue for me and never seen a change in zero from any optic throughout the year in MO. Here are some good info on the new EOtechs: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/10/19/eotech-factory-tour-opens-its-doors-for-the-first-time-to-media/ https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/11/01/eotech-factory-tour-part-2/ |
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Posted: 11/26/2018 11:21:57 AM EDT
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The new logo started in 2017...which had the thermal drift updates....in 2018...they released the updated more efficient battery circuitry with the new 10 year warranty. Just to be clear...ALL weapon sights will have thermal dift issues when exposed to extreme hot and cold...including Aimpoint...even before the EOtech fiasco a couple of years back...if I shot at severely different temps...I would confirm zero so it was really a none issue for me and never seen a change in zero from any optic throughout the year in MO. Here are some good info on the new EOtechs: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/10/19/eotech-factory-tour-opens-its-doors-for-the-first-time-to-media/ https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/11/01/eotech-factory-tour-part-2/ |
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Posted: 11/26/2018 11:58:29 AM EDT
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...you can get the briefing on the updated specs if you are LE/MIL/FED... Can you recommend a contact at L3? Thanks for your input. |
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Posted: 11/26/2018 8:22:18 PM EDT
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Is that something they can forward in an email? Can you recommend a contact at L3? Thanks for your input. |
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Posted: 12/6/2018 3:03:35 PM EDT
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Bump...I'm very interested in the details as well. I'm very close to ordering 518 or EXPS2 but with better battery life. 2500 hours with AA doesn't seem too bad.
I tried it at the LGS and liked it better than Aimpoint PRO / M5. My eyes are bad and the red dot in Aimpoint looks like a slash (/) to me, just like the old ML2 I had many years ago. EOTech reticle looked clear to my eyes so that is what I'm going with. Really liked how the reticle looked after being magnified as well. |
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Posted: 12/6/2018 10:11:43 PM EDT
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Quit overthinking it. Just FO.
EOTech is GTG. I had them update an older one in 2017 and just recently bought a new EXPS. Both have less parallax than my MRO and Aimpoints and have never lost zero. |
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Posted: 12/6/2018 10:53:50 PM EDT
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GarandThumb has confirmed it. and SOCOM chose EOTech again in 2018 with a large contract for their sights as they beat out others during the latest testing with the improved EOtech sights as reported by Soldier Systems. TFB also reported on it during their factory tour of EOtech. SOF and other units actually never stopped using them. http://soldiersystems.net/2018/09/29/ussocom-replaces-eotech-sights-with-eotech-sights/ |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 12:10:42 AM EDT
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But they all still have nitrogen purge issues and delamination. All four of mine did
This is the biggest issue with them and they have yet to do anything to fix this. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 10:12:54 AM EDT
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Quit overthinking it. Just FO. EOTech is GTG. I had them update an older one in 2017 and just recently bought a new EXPS. Both have less parallax than my MRO and Aimpoints and have never lost zero. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 10:47:33 AM EDT
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But they all still have nitrogen purge issues and delamination. All four of mine did This is the biggest issue with them and they have yet to do anything to fix this. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 10:52:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not even close on parallax anymore. Mount any other red dot sight in front of, or behind an EOTech and run both reticles to the same POI and move your head around. The difference is substantial and to the RDS guys, its fake news. But parallax is a huge deal (contrary to people online)...just proves that even after the eotech mess...USSOCOM still picked it over all the other red dots that were entered...proves that thermal drift is now on par with all of them after the new logo revisions...but tactical ninja warriors will still bash EOtech no matter what... Another huge benefit of EOtech is the image behind the magnifier...the 1 moa dot is still a 1 moa dot...a 2 MOA red dot (AP/MRO etc) will be at 6 moa and not crisp... |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 10:57:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You shouldn't...that was fixed sometime around after August 2014 I believe.... |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 12:39:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Everyone seems to be so hung up on battery life...its really a stupid argument...just change the battery...even when I ran Aimpoints...I would change out batteries annually...EOtechs every 6 months...not a big deal (if you can't afford $10 worth of batteries every year...you have bigger problems than battery life). But parallax is a huge deal (contrary to people online)...just proves that even after the eotech mess...USSOCOM still picked it over all the other red dots that were entered...proves that thermal drift is now on par with all of them after the new logo revisions...but tactical ninja warriors will still bash EOtech no matter what... Another huge benefit of EOtech is the image behind the magnifier...the 1 moa dot is still a 1 moa dot...a 2 MOA red dot (AP/MRO etc) will be at 6 moa and not crisp... |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 12:46:25 PM EDT
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I emailed them
2500 hours battery life is true and began with 2017 models |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 1:32:23 PM EDT
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what the hell are you talking about? A 2 MOA dot is still 2 MOA under a magnifier. Its not just the dot thats magnified the target and everything else is too. The size of the dot relative to the target is the same. Ill agree on the crispness bit. Here is an article for your enjoyment...it talks about it: https://www.pewpewtactical.com/red-dots-vs-holographic-sights/ but...I went ahead and copy/pasted the info for you: Magnification Both red dots and holographic sights can have magnifiers in front of them (Best 3x Magnifiers). Remember that EOTech’s center dot is 1 MOA while red dots can only get down to 2 MOA? When you put a magnifier in front of a 2 MOA red dot…it now becomes 6 MOA. Here’s an example with a 4 MOA red dot that becomes 12 MOA when magnified. But you get the picture…it covers more of the target. My real life test…(shows a pic in the article) Which does show the holographic reticle a bit smaller than the red dot. Now get ready to get your mind blown…when you magnify the EOTech…the 1 MOA dot stays the same. The smallest light the human eye can see is 1 MOA. But with holographic technology the dot is actually super small (microns). When you magnify something tiny…it’s still tiny. And so our eyes still see it as 1 MOA. That’s why you can put any magnifier in front of a holographic sight and it still shows up 1 MOA. Winner in Magnification: Holographic 
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Posted: 12/7/2018 2:17:55 PM EDT
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But they all still have nitrogen purge issues and delamination. All four of mine did This is the biggest issue with them and they have yet to do anything to fix this. Fact is there is zero proof the new design has fixed the inherent problems. None. I don’t care what eotech says, I don’t trust a word they say. And yes, lots of tier one groups switched over to different sights. Just because a couple haven’t doesn’t mean anything. I mean use common sense and not emotions. The god damn things STILL have the main issues they always had, delam and nitrogen purge. Why anyone would trust these when there are plenty of other options out there is beyond me. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 2:22:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You shouldn't...that was fixed sometime around after August 2014 I believe.... And the real world confirms. Go look at the eotech problems thread proved it. Google search proves it. I mean this isn’t even up for debate. It’s silly to even try. Totally outs those who do as blind witnesses. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 3:09:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, it wasn’t. You’re quite the fan/excuse maker for eotech. Why? It’s beton disputable. They have problems on their problems and like to lie about them instead of fixing them. And why? Because fixing them takes a full blow redesign of the internals. And that’s per their words in the court documents. Not mine. Not a guess. Not an assumption. And the real world confirms. Go look at the eotech problems thread proved it. Google search proves it. I mean this isn’t even up for debate. It’s silly to even try. Totally outs those who do as blind witnesses. Secondly...not a brand fan to any brand...I've ran all...Aimpoint, Trijicon, Vortex, Schmidth and Bender, Meopta...etc etc...as far as 1x goes...for me...EOtech is it...never had a problem...never had an issue...its near parallax free...and works really well with magnifiers...so because I like EOtech that makes me a bad person...shut your face...seriously...people can like or dislike a product...I can like EOtech all I want...there is NOTHING you can do about. There are a lot of things that are a plus with an EOtech for ME (and others)...given the history I've had with them...I'll continue to use them. You don't have to...no one is making you....some of you sound like liberal snowflakes...my way or else...get a grip. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 3:32:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A regular red dot under a magnifier...you are correct...magnifies the background and the red dot so if you have a 2MOA dot with a 3x...your dot is now covering 6MOA....on the EOtech...it does not....the 1 MOA center dot remains 1 MOA under 3X, 4X, 5X....100X. Here is an article for your enjoyment...it talks about it: https://www.pewpewtactical.com/red-dots-vs-holographic-sights/ https://www.pewpewtactical.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/3x-Magnification-Red-Dot-vs-Holographic.png |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 3:50:32 PM EDT
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Nitrogen purge has been fixed
Does it still happen every now and then for people. MAYBE. But nothing is perfect 100% of the time |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 4:15:39 PM EDT
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Nitrogen purge has been fixed Does it still happen every now and then for people. MAYBE. But nothing is perfect 100% of the time |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 5:43:58 PM EDT
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Bummer man. Sry to hear this
Maybe it was after 2017 they fixed it? |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 7:19:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Lots of bull and fans making excuses and unsubstantiated claims in this thread. Fact is there is zero proof the new design has fixed the inherent problems. None. I don’t care what eotech says, I don’t trust a word they say. And yes, lots of tier one groups switched over to different sights. Just because a couple haven’t doesn’t mean anything. I mean use common sense and not emotions. The god damn things STILL have the main issues they always had, delam and nitrogen purge. Why anyone would trust these when there are plenty of other options out there is beyond me. Cool. |
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Posted: 12/7/2018 9:33:33 PM EDT
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^^^ right.
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Posted: 12/7/2018 9:36:38 PM EDT
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Nitrogen purge has been fixed Does it still happen every now and then for people. MAYBE. But nothing is perfect 100% of the time However with the Eotechs, having it filled with nitrogen is absolutely crucial to it's operation. To me this seems like a serious design flaw. |
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Posted: 12/10/2018 11:49:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But you trust Aimpoint that will tell you they have no thermal drift and are parallax free? Cool. |
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Posted: 12/11/2018 8:03:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is true. However with the Eotechs, having it filled with nitrogen is absolutely crucial to it's operation. To me this seems like a serious design flaw. Contingency? Yes. It's a handicap. |
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