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Posted: 5/16/2020 12:18:13 PM EDT
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Take it to suppressed 100% of the time and get triarch's 11.5 suppressed only
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Posted: 5/16/2020 12:45:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OhioRangeTime: Take it to suppressed 100% of the time and get triarch's 11.5 suppressed only @ohiorangetime Why? I only recently heard of them and I’m very interested, but don’t know a thing about them. I believe BA has the same spec barrel (not the identical barrel) and I’ve heard of them and used their barrels. Always willing to learn. |
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Posted: 5/16/2020 12:46:08 PM EDT
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Centurion will cut you a 16" to 12.5" with a mid length gas system and port sized for a dedicated suppressor host. Accurate and well balanced barrel.
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Posted: 5/16/2020 1:07:07 PM EDT
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Blackstone Arms
Will build a nice upper |
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Posted: 5/16/2020 1:07:17 PM EDT
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What max caliber is your suppressor rated for?
I'd be tempted to do a super quiet 22lr or 9mm build, or if you just want to tone down the blast then 762x39 |
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Posted: 5/16/2020 1:11:42 PM EDT
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Pws mk 110 or mk112 mod 1
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Posted: 5/16/2020 1:19:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Steamedliver: @ohiorangetime Why? I only recently heard of them and I’m very interested, but don’t know a thing about them. I believe BA has the same spec barrel (not the identical barrel) and I’ve heard of them and used their barrels. Always willing to learn. They put more emphasis on gas port sizing than a lot of other manufacturers. Like you said there are other companies doing it, but reviews have been pretty good on the triarch barrels and handguards. I have no personal experience, but If I wanted a complete upper to run suppressed only, I'd give them a try. Their prices aren't that high either. I'm planning on doing a 12.5 build using their barrel and AGB at some point, but I don't think I'd want suppressed only personally. |
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Posted: 5/16/2020 1:33:12 PM EDT
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What's the purpose of this weapon? I really like my 12.5" in 6.8 SPC a lot. Great power for hunting. If I was looking for plinking I'd go 12.5" 5.56 no doubt.
I also have a very short 8" barrel 300blk that's light and handy. Extremely quiet with subs. Supers are still good enough for hunting, but not as good as the 6.8 SPC. For home defense if I was worried about over penetration I'd go 5.56mm. Or 300blk would be the quietest indoors. Or 6.8 for max power factor. |
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Posted: 5/16/2020 1:35:12 PM EDT
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If I get a suppressed only barrel, I hope they don’t ask me what gas port size. I have no clue.
I’d only use one or two type of ammo. Like M193 or M855 for simplicity. |
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Posted: 5/16/2020 1:37:31 PM EDT
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It’s a 5.56 can. Gun would be for home defense and such.
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Posted: 5/16/2020 1:42:00 PM EDT
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geissele super duty 11.5" upper is the answer. worth the wait for them to come back in stock
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Posted: 5/16/2020 2:05:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OhioRangeTime: Take it to suppressed 100% of the time and get triarch's 11.5 suppressed only This |
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Posted: 5/16/2020 2:07:45 PM EDT
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Thoughts on triarc’s 10.5 suppressed only barrel?
With a griffin GP5 it’ll be 16 inches. If I chose to pin weld. I’m not asking if pin welding a suppressor is a good or bad idea. |
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Posted: 5/16/2020 2:32:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ct1: Pws mk 110 or mk112 mod 1 Yup, all my PWS 's run great suppressed. This is where pistons shine. |
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Posted: 5/16/2020 2:35:31 PM EDT
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BCM. Thousands of full auto suppressed rounds, still at 1.5 MOA zero issues, and perfectly ported.
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Posted: 5/16/2020 4:22:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OhioRangeTime: Take it to suppressed 100% of the time and get triarch's 11.5 suppressed only This is the correct answer. Triarc will personally work with you to make sure your suppressed only upper is exactly what you need. They will answer the phone when you call and call you right back if they cant. If you have used parts from other companies you want to build with you can send them in and they will set it all up for you. I'm always trying to brag on Triarc - they seriously hooked me up a year ago when I had issues with a whole rifle build that only had one Triarc part in it... |
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Posted: 5/16/2020 4:31:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HAMBURGERATTACK: This is the correct answer. Triarc will personally work with you to make sure your suppressed only upper is exactly what you need. They will answer the phone when you call and call you right back if they cant. If you have used parts from other companies you want to build with you can send them in and they will set it all up for you. I'm always trying to brag on Triarc - they seriously hooked me up a year ago when I had issues with a whole rifle build that only had one Triarc part in it... Such a dick move. I’ll call on Monday.  How is their accuracy with m193 or 855? |
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Posted: 5/16/2020 6:52:23 PM EDT
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Knights armament
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Posted: 5/16/2020 10:13:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SurtrsFire: Knights armament Not the best out of the box with full time suppressor use. |
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Posted: 5/16/2020 10:50:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/17/2020 11:26:15 AM EDT
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I really like my Sig 516 10.5” upper that runs a full time YHM-turbo K.
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Posted: 5/17/2020 12:29:51 PM EDT
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AndroCorp 10.3 crane spec upper...I have two of these barrels now, but they sell complete uppers too. Perfect size gas port (.070) for suppressed and suppressed use. They use ballistic advantage barrels, which are awesome.
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Posted: 5/17/2020 2:52:20 PM EDT
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KAC or TriArc
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Posted: 5/17/2020 3:29:39 PM EDT
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Shark Arms - Colt 11.5 Commando HBAR FBI HRT
Shark Arms - Colt 10.3 uppers with fsb, complete The webpage stock status isn't too accurate, send them an email and they can usually get one build up for in a few weeks. They're usually $750-$850 |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 4:25:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Steamedliver: Not the best out of the box with full time suppressor use. what problems have you had with yours? |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 4:52:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OhioRangeTime: Take it to suppressed 100% of the time and get triarch's 11.5 suppressed only This. .50 gas port. It's smooth and not gassy at all. I love mine |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 4:55:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Steamedliver: Such a dick move. I’ll call on Monday. How is their accuracy with m193 or 855? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Steamedliver: Originally Posted By HAMBURGERATTACK: This is the correct answer. Triarc will personally work with you to make sure your suppressed only upper is exactly what you need. They will answer the phone when you call and call you right back if they cant. If you have used parts from other companies you want to build with you can send them in and they will set it all up for you. I'm always trying to brag on Triarc - they seriously hooked me up a year ago when I had issues with a whole rifle build that only had one Triarc part in it... Such a dick move. I’ll call on Monday. How is their accuracy with m193 or 855? I get about 1.5-1.75 MOA from 193 ball through an Aimpoint. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 5:31:34 PM EDT
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Quoted: I’m looking for an upper for my SBR lower and suppressor. I’d prefer something 12.5” or shorter. It will be shot suppressed 90% of the time most likely. What would you buy and why? I built a 12.5 using a Criterion barrel. Buying complete uppers or lowers always leaves something to be desired, but building does not. If I were to buy a complete 12.5, it would be a Centurion The Criterion barrel is insanely accurate  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 5:35:07 PM EDT
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Hodge 12.5, Geissele 11.5, Sionics RGP or ERGP, Centurion 12.5 midlength.
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Posted: 5/17/2020 8:34:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SurtrsFire: what problems have you had with yours? Over gassing with a restrictive suppressor, without changing anything. Meaning a lot of gas to the face. Also, dramatically increased bolt speed with my RR, semi or auto with a suppressor. All this because of over gassing WITH a suppressor. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 8:56:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DoctorLove: I built a 12.5 using a Criterion barrel. Buying complete uppers or lowers always leaves something to be desired, but building does not. If I were to buy a complete 12.5, it would be a Centurion The Criterion barrel is insanely accurate https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/324355/4992696B-AA31-4256-BB1B-A861743DE9BC_jpe-1420592.JPG Can you quantify “insanely” accurate? What kind of ammo? I’m getting 1-2 MOA from FN 10.5 inch barrel. However its got an adjustable gas system, gas buster handle and I’m using the Surefire enhanced BCG to reduce gas to the face and lower the cyclical rate. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 10:01:36 PM EDT
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Another thing you're getting with Triarc Systems is one of the absolute best rails on the market.
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Posted: 5/19/2020 1:42:41 AM EDT
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PWS MK111
Lefty, and I’ve only shot a few rounds through it without a can. No failures. This is the way. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 1:51:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Steamedliver: Can you quantify “insanely” accurate? What kind of ammo? I’m getting 1-2 MOA from FN 10.5 inch barrel. However its got an adjustable gas system, gas buster handle and I’m using the Surefire enhanced BCG to reduce gas to the face and lower the cyclical rate. I get a consistent 1 moa groups with my 12.5 centurion using 69 grain smk at 100 yards , no gas in the face , smooth recoil. But i can also cut loose and run drills with it . Its become my go to in a very short amount of time. Cant suggest centurion enough. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 3:27:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/19/2020 9:33:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Steamedliver: Such a dick move. I’ll call on Monday. How is their accuracy with m193 or 855? My Triarc 14.5 was a moa or less barrel with m855. Now in terms of a non-supressed or partially suppressed build I would be cautious with Triarc because they port on the small side for sure... but a 100% Suppressed build would reallllly take advantage of those special Track 2.0 barrels they use and the special port sizing. I put a h2 buffer and a tubs flat spring in my KAC CQBR Mod2 and ejects at 2:00 suppressed and locks back PMC .223 un-supressed. I was also having gas to face issues when gun was very clean - pri gasbuster fixed that. Using Surefire mini2 |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 9:56:25 AM EDT
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Seems like knowing the purpose is a really important question to answer.
8" 300blk 12.5" 6.5 12.5" 6.8 One of those three depending on use. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 9:58:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HAMBURGERATTACK: My Triarc 14.5 was a moa or less barrel with m855. Now in terms of a non-supressed or partially suppressed build I would be cautious with Triarc because they port on the small side for sure... but a 100% Suppressed build would reallllly take advantage of those special Track 2.0 barrels they use and the special port sizing. I put a h2 buffer and a tubs flat spring in my KAC CQBR Mod2 and ejects at 2:00 suppressed and locks back PMC .223 un-supressed. I was also having gas to face issues when gun was very clean - pri gasbuster fixed that. Using Surefire mini2 Does triarc have small gas port 11.5" and 10.5" barrels? Building the wife a 100% suppressed gun soon. Was just going to get a criterion barrel like usual but I'm open to new options. I put another 800rds through my mod 2 cqb kac this weekend at a training class and had no issues except one stovepipe, I think it was the magazines fault but I'm not sure. The rifle was dirty and dry at that point so I couldn't really tell. Also the possibility that I knocked the casing back into the ejection port since I was shooting support side. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 11:32:57 AM EDT
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Thanks for the wealth of information, it really seems that Triarc has the smallest available gas port that I can find, I just wish they were cheaper!
That sionics ERGP also looks like it might be the ticket. I need to contact them and see what the gas port sizing is. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 11:47:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Foo_909: Thanks for the wealth of information, it really seems that Triarc has the smallest available gas port that I can find, I just wish they were cheaper! What is the size? If it’s listed on their website, I did not see it. Thanks in advance. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 11:50:39 AM EDT
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A member above posted it is “0.50” but I don’t know that as first hand knowledge. I plan on emailing them today though.
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Posted: 5/19/2020 11:58:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OhioRangeTime: Take it to suppressed 100% of the time and get triarch's 11.5 suppressed only This is the correct answer  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 1:05:59 PM EDT
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Unfortunately MicroMOA closed. I have a 12.5 upper from them with the Govnah. The Govnah has a plate with 3 holes of your choice. Mine is .055 suppressed, .073 not, .082 dirty and / or weak ammo. Mid Gas
My other SBR AR is a Adams Arms piston 11.5 upper. The gas adjust has off, normal, suppressed which is suppose to be 1/2 normal. It runs great, have done several classes with a Specwar 556K. On suppressed setting without a can it's a single shot. With the gas off, obviously it's a bolt action but noticeably quieter. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 7:53:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Foo_909: Thanks for the wealth of information, it really seems that Triarc has the smallest available gas port that I can find, I just wish they were cheaper! That sionics ERGP also looks like it might be the ticket. I need to contact them and see what the gas port sizing is. I still had gas to face with the Sionics ERGP barrel and an Omega. The barrel is also heavy AF like a freaking SOCOM profile. I sold it almost immediately. I ended up going with the Crane spec (0.07) spec Andro 10.3 barrel (it's a ballistic advantage barrel that's to their spec and rebranded...very smooth shooting suppressed and unsuppressed) |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 8:25:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By acjones1200: I still had gas to face with the Sionics ERGP barrel and an Omega. The barrel is also heavy AF like a freaking SOCOM profile. I sold it almost immediately. The barrel profile is one of the best aspects of the Sionics barrel, especially for 90% suppressed. 11.5" guns feel like kid's play toys no matter the barrel profile anyway. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 8:36:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By acjones1200: I still had gas to face with the Sionics ERGP barrel and an Omega. The barrel is also heavy AF like a freaking SOCOM profile. I sold it almost immediately. I ended up going with the Crane spec (0.07) spec Andro 10.3 barrel (it's a ballistic advantage barrel that's to their spec and rebranded...very smooth shooting suppressed and unsuppressed) The ERGP and not just the RGP? That’s good info either way, thanks. |
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Posted: 5/19/2020 8:46:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Foo_909: The ERGP and not just the RGP? That’s good info either way, thanks. ergp |
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Posted: 5/20/2020 9:26:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grn06rubi: This is the correct answer https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/210459/C4639DC6-E2A4-49C9-8A7B-DB8372E1EADB_jpe-1423452.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By grn06rubi: Originally Posted By OhioRangeTime: Take it to suppressed 100% of the time and get triarch's 11.5 suppressed only This is the correct answer https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/210459/C4639DC6-E2A4-49C9-8A7B-DB8372E1EADB_jpe-1423452.JPG Agreed 
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Posted: 5/21/2020 2:17:25 AM EDT
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It looks like there is an overwhelming amount of people suggesting the suppressed only Triarc uppers/barrels.
What handguard and or barrel lengths are you all running? |
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Posted: 5/21/2020 2:59:48 AM EDT
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