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Posted: 5/17/2023 9:04:17 AM EDT
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Yes…. Generally issued to second echelon troop and service support elements.
My wife is a prime example, she was issued an M16A2 with M68 on gooseneck. Never left the weapons rack while she was in theatre. 18Z50 |
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Posted: 5/17/2023 2:01:15 PM EDT
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We had that configuration for a bit in the MN NG Infantry.
Then they gave us A4's with standard polymer handguards. |
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Posted: 5/17/2023 2:57:13 PM EDT
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Thank you for all the information. To be clear I am asking about the Aimpoint M4s (the one with the low battery compartment) being used with the M16A2 alongside the regular Aimpoint M4.
The nomenclature is confusing because I think M68 CCO is the designation for the M2 and M4 series of optics in US military service |
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Posted: 5/17/2023 3:28:06 PM EDT
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I'd imagine so. There were two gooseneck patterns, Trijicon and Aimpoint. I have the Trij with gooseneck mount on my A2. My buddy has the Aimpoint with gooseneck on his A2.
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Posted: 5/17/2023 4:22:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd imagine so. There were two gooseneck patterns, Trijicon and Aimpoint. I have the Trij with gooseneck mount on my A2. My buddy has the Aimpoint with gooseneck on his A2. I have a few Aimpoint goosenecks and tried mounting an Aimpoint M5 with the Larue LT661 low mount. I have found that this setup puts the optic a bit too low for my liking and the M5 doesn't look right on an M16A2. Here's a picture of the setup I have now: https://ibb.co/QmLvH34 The rifle is a 1990 factory Colt 6550 that I am using as a "basis" for an M16A2 clone. It's basically a factory large-hole M16A2 upper with the gov't profile barrel on a slabside lower. I'm thinking I will pick up an Aimpoint M4s to replace the M5 and have it look more correct. I believe that that optic would sit much higher too - does anyone know if you can see the iron sights through an Aimpoint M4 with the factory mount and no spacer? |
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Posted: 5/17/2023 5:57:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/20/2023 10:04:46 AM EDT
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Had a friend whose son went through Infantry OSUT with an A2 and an M4 on a gooseneck very early in GWOT.
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Posted: 5/21/2023 12:15:05 AM EDT
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There were some. Especially for people who were assigned and transferred to a unit while it was deployed. They were issued whatever was available before they left to catch up overseas with their unit, and sometimes that was an A2 that the rear detachment had.
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Posted: 5/27/2023 6:43:47 PM EDT
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Yes you can still use the irons with that setup. I did the same thing but with a Primary Arms red dot.
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Posted: 5/27/2023 7:12:34 PM EDT
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It was very common in the Air Force about 15 years ago. (See comment above about rear echelon/support troops)
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Posted: 5/27/2023 7:23:11 PM EDT
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Same in mass. The state only had enough M4 for the units spun up and the ones down range for a while. So the units that just got back or the ones not deploying soon had muskets.
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Posted: 5/27/2023 7:30:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a few Aimpoint goosenecks and tried mounting an Aimpoint M5 with the Larue LT661 low mount. I have found that this setup puts the optic a bit too low for my liking and the M5 doesn't look right on an M16A2. Here's a picture of the setup I have now: https://ibb.co/QmLvH34 The rifle is a 1990 factory Colt 6550 that I am using as a "basis" for an M16A2 clone. It's basically a factory large-hole M16A2 upper with the gov't profile barrel on a slabside lower. I'm thinking I will pick up an Aimpoint M4s to replace the M5 and have it look more correct. I believe that that optic would sit much higher too - does anyone know if you can see the iron sights through an Aimpoint M4 with the factory mount and no spacer? Did the .mil ever use the Comp M4S? |
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Posted: 5/27/2023 8:30:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did the .mil ever use the Comp M4S? It came in a white box with the same gooseneck mount as in @Frens photo. Also came with QRP2 flat top mount. |
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Posted: 6/7/2023 3:03:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes. It had its own NSN but was still called an M68 CCO like the rest of them. It came in a white box with the same gooseneck mount as in @Frens photo. Also came with QRP2 flat top mount. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Did the .mil ever use the Comp M4S? It came in a white box with the same gooseneck mount as in @Frens photo. Also came with QRP2 flat top mount. This. The M4S came out later. I’m not sure why or what the rational was. I heard the S versions were for lefties since the lower battery compartment made it easier to use with both eyes open. I have no idea if that is true or not, it’s just what I heard. |
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Posted: 6/7/2023 7:14:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. The M4S came out later. I’m not sure why or what the rational was. I heard the S versions were for lefties since the lower battery compartment made it easier to use with both eyes open. I have no idea if that is true or not, it’s just what I heard. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Did the .mil ever use the Comp M4S? It came in a white box with the same gooseneck mount as in @Frens photo. Also came with QRP2 flat top mount. This. The M4S came out later. I’m not sure why or what the rational was. I heard the S versions were for lefties since the lower battery compartment made it easier to use with both eyes open. I have no idea if that is true or not, it’s just what I heard. SF didn't like the battery compartment up high, so Aimpoint moved it... |
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Posted: 6/7/2023 9:36:29 AM EDT
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I may dislike Dick Swann but the ARMS 39 A2+ gooseneck is the best gooseneck
http://armsmounts.com/shop/mounts/r-m-s-39-a2-plus/  |
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Posted: 6/7/2023 9:41:17 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/7/2023 10:31:20 AM EDT
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I dislike goosenecks in general. You're adding a lot of aluminum (weight) and multiple failure points to what could just be a receiver swap to flat top.
I've heard the ARMS one above is good, but I also like the design of the latest Army one that was included with the CompM4 and CompM4s. We didn't actually mount one (because I swapped the uppers instead) but it seems well made. Having that additional point of contact at the front of the carry handle is a pretty big deal (for an add-on component like that). |
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Posted: 6/7/2023 10:35:11 AM EDT
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 2008 |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 12:33:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SF didn't like the battery compartment up high, so Aimpoint moved it... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Did the .mil ever use the Comp M4S? It came in a white box with the same gooseneck mount as in @Frens photo. Also came with QRP2 flat top mount. This. The M4S came out later. I’m not sure why or what the rational was. I heard the S versions were for lefties since the lower battery compartment made it easier to use with both eyes open. I have no idea if that is true or not, it’s just what I heard. SF didn't like the battery compartment up high, so Aimpoint moved it... Sounds reasonable. It’s strange though since the original M4 (M68 CCO), has the same visual layout of the older Comp M2 (M68 CCO). The battery compartment on the M4 is longer but I don’t think it is any wider than the older M2. |
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