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Posted: 1/13/2021 8:01:08 AM EST
Ran across this, actually saw one posted on a build from Brownell's. Shows to be released around late summer/fall according to Midwayusa. I really am liking the 5x version. Like that they take T2 mounts and you can actually mount them low. The 5x version can accept a micro dot like a Venom if that is your thing. Instant 1x or 5x. 3X:  5X:  reticle for both:  Videos from Vortex: |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 8:04:04 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/13/2021 8:06:12 AM EST by yamahawarrior89]
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MD, USA
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Posted: 1/13/2021 8:30:18 AM EST
I like my old 1x, but wouldn't mind a 5x on a 16". Does it come with a QD mount?
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Posted: 1/13/2021 8:34:27 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Cooper1: I like my old 1x, but wouldn't mind a 5x on a 16". Does it come with a QD mount? Based on the pictures it comes with 2 fixed mounts, a high and low. It does take T2 mounts which there is a plethora to choose from. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/13/2021 9:38:19 AM EST
The 5x looks nice
 Only 10.3 ounces  But at $649.99 I'd rather spend a couple hundred more and buy another ACOG. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 9:47:52 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/13/2021 9:48:32 AM EST by yamahawarrior89]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fowty: The 5x looks nice Only 10.3 ounces But at $649.99 I'd rather spend a couple hundred more and buy another ACOG. Midwayusa shows $449 for 5x Midwayusa shows $399 for 3x |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 10:25:01 AM EST
Where are they made?
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Posted: 1/13/2021 10:34:16 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By minimike: Where are they made? Someone from Vortex would have to chime in, I can't find that info anywhere. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/13/2021 11:22:30 AM EST
Quote HistoryQuote History Originally Posted By yamahawarrior89: Originally Posted By Fowty: The 5x looks nice Only 10.3 ounces But at $649.99 I'd rather spend a couple hundred more and buy another ACOG. Midwayusa shows $449 for 5x Midwayusa shows $399 for 3x Ok, that's more like it. I was thinking ~$400 would be the sweet spot for me for something like that, as long as it's proven to be reliable. Really petty gripe here, but I wish they would offer a 5x without the red dot mount on top, to make it even sleeker and shave another ounce off. The way Trijicon has manufactured the TA648 with and without the picatinny rail on top, and gives you the ability to remove the RMR mount on all the other ACOG models. Judging by similar optics that have a built in option for piggybacked red dots, I'd bet 75% of people will never mount one, much less use it. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/13/2021 11:25:32 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By minimike: Where are they made? The previous Spitfires were made in China, I would assume the same for gen II. Here's what Vortex replied previously about the first gen Spitfires: "To the OP, yes the Spitfire is made in China. At that price point there is nothing like it made in the USA. Unfortunately that's just the way the economics are. Our higher end stuff is made in Japan with some of the work also done in the USA." |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/13/2021 11:42:01 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By minimike: Where are they made? https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Vortex-Spitfire-HD-Gen-II/18-760316/ |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 9:52:55 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Fowty: Ok, that's more like it. I was thinking ~$400 would be the sweet spot for me for something like that, as long as it's proven to be reliable. Really petty gripe here, but I wish they would offer a 5x without the red dot mount on top, to make it even sleeker and shave another ounce off. The way Trijicon has manufactured the TA648 with and without the picatinny rail on top, and gives you the ability to remove the RMR mount on all the other ACOG models. Judging by similar optics that have a built in option for piggybacked red dots, I'd bet 75% of people will never mount one, much less use it. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:49:37 AM EST
The direct-mount for the Venom on the 5x is pretty slick, and I think it'd be interesting to see other optics perhaps take an MOS-based approach in the future. (I know why you didn't in this case, but what if I wanted a Razor up there?)
I'd also really like to see a 1x GenII that had a fiber optic aiming point. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/14/2021 10:52:55 AM EST
These look phenomenal. Is the illumination daylight bright?
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USA
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Posted: 1/14/2021 11:46:37 AM EST
Good to know, thanks for the reply. When will these be in stock for purchase?
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Posted: 1/14/2021 1:27:39 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By erwos: The direct-mount for the Venom on the 5x is pretty slick, and I think it'd be interesting to see other optics perhaps take an MOS-based approach in the future. (I know why you didn't in this case, but what if I wanted a Razor up there?) I'd also really like to see a 1x GenII that had a fiber optic aiming point. Noted on the 1x thing - will pass along as usual :) |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 1:28:13 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By olds442tyguy: These look phenomenal. Is the illumination daylight bright? |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 1/14/2021 1:29:17 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By VortexOptics: Probably the biggest reason for not going with the MOS approach is all the plates that would need to be kept track of (Which will get lost and need to be replaced frequently) and also the fact that it would set the red dot up higher than we'd like with the plate taking space between the two optics instead of having a direct mate. Noted on the 1x thing - will pass along as usual :) Seriously, 1x with a daylight bright fiber optic aiming point would be a superb option for 3gun limited, especially if you could make it .5 or 1MOA. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 1:29:23 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Fowty: Good to know, thanks for the reply. When will these be in stock for purchase? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 9:12:29 PM EST
Still weird that no one wants to touch 4x.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/20/2021 1:05:04 PM EST
I would like to see a second choice of reticle in the 5x with thin crosshairs and mil or moa drops.
I really like the size and mount. |
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Posted: 1/28/2021 9:05:08 AM EST
I have the last generation 3x Spitfire and love it. I need something for my 300 Blackout upper. I will probably buy one of these. They look nice.
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 2/15/2021 3:32:27 PM EST
Any idea when the 5x will be available?
All vendors are showing out of stock / back ordering available. Thanks, Doug |
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USA
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Posted: 2/15/2021 4:01:30 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By caw375: I would like to see a second choice of reticle in the 5x with thin crosshairs and mil or moa drops. I really like the size and mount. Make it 1/2 MOA adjustments or better while you (Vortex) are at it and I'd buy one. |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 11:28:18 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By ColtSeavers: Make it 1/2 MOA adjustments or better while you (Vortex) are at it and I'd buy one. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/16/2021 1:06:44 PM EST
[Last Edit: 2/16/2021 1:44:19 PM EST by ColtSeavers]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VortexOptics: People often get too hung up on adjustment graduations, especially on optics like these. These are designed to be zeroed at 50, so a 1 MOA adjustment is moving your POI basically 1/2 inch with every click. This is a fixed, relatively low power, prism optic on a carbine. Worst case, if your zero is perfectly between two clicks, you're off by a max of 1/4 inch which can really only be realized if you're a good shot and using a sweet shooting rifle and good ammo. Sure, that max 1/2 MOA discrepancy in this worst case scenario will proliferate itself to larger linear values at greater distances, but for what this sight is designed to do (Be effective on steel, not shooting tiny groups) at varying distances on a 5.56 carbine, it really isn't going to be a hinderance when in the hands of the shooter it was designed for. If precision really is your first priority, then get a more traditional variable power optic with turrets that dial in finer increments. Pretty simple. Understood, thank you for the response. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 2/22/2021 8:35:06 PM EST
Any idea on availability?
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