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Posted: 2/2/2021 5:02:33 AM EDT
Update: blue loktite and a drill bit got it out!
 Attached File Attached Filethis is my first 80%, first AR308, first build. tonight i assembled my upper, then realized my stupid ass put a roll pin in to hold the bolt catch in place, instead of a bolt catch screw. Ive never seen that sort of thing, and the Aero M5 parts kit came with pin and a 4-40 set screw that I used (Its a touch small/meant for takedown detent) I didnt realize my folly until too late. no clue how the hell i am going to get the roll pin out and to make matters worse 5Dtactical wants $14 to ship a $2.50 screw.  anyhow, learn from my mistake. |
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Posted: 2/2/2021 7:20:54 AM EDT
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Just leave it in.
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Posted: 2/2/2021 8:40:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just leave it in. End of thread/ 
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Posted: 2/2/2021 10:04:07 PM EDT
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If that is the worst "stupid" thing you have done... you are just fine.
Is the bolt catch free of any horrible wobble ?... if so I'd run it. |
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Posted: 2/3/2021 1:15:46 AM EDT
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the bolt catch has wobble, I'll get it out one way or another. It'll either work it's way out or I'll try something to get it out.
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Posted: 2/3/2021 1:59:36 AM EDT
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Could you screw a tiny screw into the roll pin then pull it out with pliers? The screw would have to be real small though not to spread it out and jam it more.
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Posted: 2/3/2021 7:35:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could you screw a tiny screw into the roll pin then pull it out with pliers? The screw would have to be real small though not to spread it out and jam it more. He called it a roll pin, but later in the post called it a detent.. At this point, I'm not sure what it is. |
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Posted: 2/3/2021 8:51:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just leave it in. I'm with this guy. Did you do it wrong? Maybe, but it works so why fuck with it? Just run it like it is. |
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Posted: 2/3/2021 9:01:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: the bolt catch has wobble, I'll get it out one way or another. It'll either work it's way out or I'll try something to get it out. That sounds pretty frustrating. Can you post a pic? |
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Posted: 2/3/2021 11:35:17 AM EDT
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If you were able to get the pin in there, you should be able to get it out, just not as easily. The question is ... are the threads still good? Maybe, if not probably. I'd try using the screw and see how it fits. If it does, then just use some thread Locker just to aid in a more secure hold.
A friend of mine recently installed a Magpul B.A.D. lever on his bolt catch on his first build. He used blue Loktite on the 2-piece clamp ... too much. The excess ran down into his bolt catch and it locked it HARD into place. Don't underestimate blue Loktite. It took a good while to burn & clean the bolt catch out. |
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Posted: 2/3/2021 11:38:04 AM EDT
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I once had a brain fart installing a trigger guard in a buddy's lower. We didn't use the set screw, drilled it out and used a pin instead. Later realized our error.
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Posted: 2/3/2021 12:01:44 PM EDT
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Sounds like "dremel time"
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Posted: 2/3/2021 12:38:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like "dremel time" I believe we something more delicate for this. Perhaps try to find the correct size punch. |
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Posted: 2/3/2021 3:02:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe we something more delicate for this. Perhaps try to find the correct size punch. I believe those pockets are closed on one end so you can't just drift it out from the other side. |
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Posted: 2/3/2021 3:46:21 PM EDT
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The pocket is only accessible from one end. I have been more focused on getting my MOE grip to fit up comfortably so I haven’t attempted to pull the stuck/improperly placed pin out yet. I’m going to see if the head of a sewing pin will fit in the hole of the roll pin, perhaps the lip of the pin head will be enough to catch and pull, if not then I’ll just run the bolt catch as it is and see if the pin works it’s way out naturally. I’ll post pics up a little later, the lower and parts are in the home office and my wife is workin.
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Posted: 2/3/2021 5:24:24 PM EDT
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If you can remove the pin:
Chase the threads and install with the correct set screw add a tiny bit of lock-tite to the threads. Less is more in this case. If you cannot remove the pin: drive a small punch into the center of it to expand the pin until the wobble stops. OP we have all made mistakes so either way you will be fine. To Aero Precision, I like the set screw idea to make installation easier but warn-a-brotha bout this shit befo you change shit up. |
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Posted: 2/3/2021 10:04:16 PM EDT
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That’s pretty much the plan. One of my drill bits fits inside the pin, I’m going to apply a tiny bit of blue lock tire and see if I can’t pull the pin out that way.
This is a 5D tactical lower but it doesn’t appear to be a proprietary way of securing the Bolt Catch on these .308 guns, I’ve just never seen it. |
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Posted: 2/3/2021 11:53:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s pretty much the plan. One of my drill bits fits inside the pin, I’m going to apply a tiny bit of blue lock tire and see if I can’t pull the pin out that way. This is a 5D tactical lower but it doesn’t appear to be a proprietary way of securing the Bolt Catch on these .308 guns, I’ve just never seen it. Drill all the way through the front with that small drill bit. Then slightly enlarge the front with another bit. Then you should be able to drive the pin out. You'll have to use a pin vise to hold the drill bit. Disregard!! I suppose I confused the M5 parts kit with the 5D lower. |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:13:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Drill all the way through the front with that small drill bit. The slightly enlarge the front with another bit. Then you should be able to drive the pin out. You'll have to use a pin vise to hold the drill bit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's pretty much the plan. One of my drill bits fits inside the pin, I'm going to apply a tiny bit of blue lock tire and see if I can't pull the pin out that way. This is a 5D tactical lower but it doesn't appear to be a proprietary way of securing the Bolt Catch on these .308 guns, I've just never seen it. Drill all the way through the front with that small drill bit. The slightly enlarge the front with another bit. Then you should be able to drive the pin out. You'll have to use a pin vise to hold the drill bit. Looks like this |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 4:58:13 AM EDT
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I have removed roll pins in the past by running a tap into the center (be really careful when doing this), and as soon as you have cut a thread or two, grip the tap with vise grips, and gently tap it with a small hammer towards the rear.
Being such a small pin, you may be down to a 2-56 or an o-80 size tap, so it's very important not to put any side load on it, or it will snap off. Just trying to run a screw into it, will expand the pin, making it fit tighter. |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 5:49:03 AM EDT
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Thanks for the responses and tips everyone.
The linked lower is a good representation of my issue, one way in and out for the pin. If the the drill bit loktite doesn’t work I’ll get a tap and try that. If none of that works I plug it and it is what it is. |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 9:08:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for the responses and tips everyone. The linked lower is a good representation of my issue, one way in and out for the pin. If the the drill bit loktite doesn’t work I’ll get a tap and try that. If none of that works I plug it and it is what it is. Wow.. I'm impressed. Glad to see you got it out ! |
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Posted: 2/4/2021 11:32:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow.. I'm impressed. Glad to see you got it out ! Huh? What did I miss? |
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Posted: 2/5/2021 12:14:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Huh? What did I miss? Yer not alone... |
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Posted: 2/5/2021 12:34:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yer not alone... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Huh? What did I miss? Yer not alone... check the update in my original post. 
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Posted: 2/5/2021 11:29:34 AM EDT
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Very cool! I bet that was quite satisfying too
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Posted: 2/7/2021 12:34:29 AM EDT
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SO WHAT SIZE is the set screw in the lower bolt catch hole. i lost mine and have to get another from fastenal. thanks
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Posted: 2/7/2021 12:38:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SO WHAT SIZE is the set screw in the lower bolt catch hole. i lost mine and have to get another from fastenal. thanks Per 5DTactical it is “standard bolt catch screw sized at 6-32 thread pitch 1/16” hex socket”. |
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Posted: 2/7/2021 9:44:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SO WHAT SIZE is the set screw in the lower bolt catch hole. i lost mine and have to get another from fastenal. thanks Quote HistoryQuoted: SO WHAT SIZE is the set screw in the lower bolt catch hole. i lost mine and have to get another from fastenal. thanks Quoted: Per 5DTactical it is “standard bolt catch screw sized at 6-23 thread pitch 1/16” hex socket”. That would be 6-32, and the hex socket of most of the pins I've encountered was 3/32". 5D's pin may have 1/16" socket. The threaded end of that catch pin is larger than the shank that goes thru the catch itself. You could use a 6-32 set screw if you have the capability of turning off some of the threads and keeping it uniform. I bought a bunch of the DPMS LR-308 pins from CDNN when DPMS went out of business. Am now in the process of converting AR-15 lowers to use that pin. Had to fashion a couple special tools to perform the installation, but the job takes about five minutes. Makes the installation/removal of bolt catches infinitely easier. |
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Posted: 2/7/2021 3:43:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That would be 6-32, and the hex socket of most of the pins I've encountered was 3/32". 5D's pin may have 1/16" socket. The threaded end of that catch pin is larger than the shank that goes thru the catch itself. You could use a 6-32 set screw if you have the capability of turning off some of the threads and keeping it uniform. I bought a bunch of the DPMS LR-308 pins from CDNN when DPMS went out of business. Am now in the process of converting AR-15 lowers to use that pin. Had to fashion a couple special tools to perform the installation, but the job takes about five minutes. Makes the installation/removal of bolt catches infinitely easier. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: SO WHAT SIZE is the set screw in the lower bolt catch hole. i lost mine and have to get another from fastenal. thanks Quoted: Per 5DTactical it is “standard bolt catch screw sized at 6-23 thread pitch 1/16” hex socket”. That would be 6-32, and the hex socket of most of the pins I've encountered was 3/32". 5D's pin may have 1/16" socket. The threaded end of that catch pin is larger than the shank that goes thru the catch itself. You could use a 6-32 set screw if you have the capability of turning off some of the threads and keeping it uniform. I bought a bunch of the DPMS LR-308 pins from CDNN when DPMS went out of business. Am now in the process of converting AR-15 lowers to use that pin. Had to fashion a couple special tools to perform the installation, but the job takes about five minutes. Makes the installation/removal of bolt catches infinitely easier. thanks, I dont know how the hell I dislexic'ed that up.
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