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Posted: 7/31/2022 10:15:23 PM EDT
[#1]
Daniel defense.
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Posted: 7/31/2022 10:17:09 PM EDT
[#2]
I've been rocking a stainless noveske pacnor 11.5 for years. Still shoots like a laser
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Posted: 7/31/2022 10:19:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been rocking a stainless noveske pacnor 11.5 for years. Still shoots like a laser I dont see any of their current lineup for barrels coming in a 11.5". I've also heard that the more recent Noveske stuff has been subpar compared to the OG Noveske barrels of old when John was still alive. |
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Posted: 7/31/2022 10:23:20 PM EDT
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What are you looking for? Longevity? Precision? Light weight?
What optic will you be using? |
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Posted: 7/31/2022 10:25:14 PM EDT
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No personal experience yet, but I'm looking at the BRT Optimum for a replacement.
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Posted: 7/31/2022 10:29:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What are you looking for? Longevity? Precision? Light weight? What optic will you be using? Mid weight profile most likely. That way there is some mass to suck up the heat from the suppressor. Longevity is probably the biggest thing. I tend to run this gun pretty hard and it gets really hot. Don't want to do SS because of the elements and rain/snow rusting things. |
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Posted: 7/31/2022 10:53:32 PM EDT
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Quoted: I dont see any of their current lineup for barrels coming in a 11.5". I've also heard that the more recent Noveske stuff has been subpar compared to the OG Noveske barrels of old when John was still alive. Noveske. Period. Not sure where the "hearsay" is for the underlined portion but they are very much top tier. ETA: Didn't see the available options you had posted for what you were tentatively looking for. Investing a decent amount in the barrel won't really hurt you in the immediate or long haul. If I had to rank what I would line-up, I'd go with this: Noveske, LaRue, Criterion, Sionic, BCM.... After hearing about how DD is selling out, I'm avoiding them. |
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Posted: 7/31/2022 10:56:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mid weight profile most likely. That way there is some mass to suck up the heat from the suppressor. Longevity is probably the biggest thing. I tend to run this gun pretty hard and it gets really hot. Don't want to do SS because of the elements and rain/snow rusting things. Hammer forged cmv construction with nitride finish. Longevity and corrosion resistance. |
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Posted: 7/31/2022 10:58:58 PM EDT
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Quoted: Looking to swap my 10.5" bbl for a 11.5" bbl to fit a 10.75" handguard I have coming. Did a lot of looking through Molon posts and it seems like the Criterion Core series punches way above its weight? Any others worth looking at? Not looking to spend Proof research type money. LMT? LaRue? Faxon? DD? DD, Centurion, Sionics ETA: there’s a Hodge 11.5 barrel on the EE, it would be a good hard use CHF barrel from FN. |
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Posted: 7/31/2022 11:17:18 PM EDT
[#10]
I run Hodge barrels.
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Posted: 7/31/2022 11:22:28 PM EDT
[#11]
Faxon 11.5 mid-length.
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Posted: 7/31/2022 11:45:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Noveske. Period. Not sure where the "hearsay" is for the underlined portion but they are very much top tier. ETA: Didn't see the available options you had posted for what you were tentatively looking for. Investing a decent amount in the barrel won't really hurt you in the immediate or long haul. If I had to rank what I would line-up, I'd go with this: Noveske, LaRue, Criterion, Sionic, BCM.... After hearing about how DD is selling out, I'm avoiding them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I dont see any of their current lineup for barrels coming in a 11.5". I've also heard that the more recent Noveske stuff has been subpar compared to the OG Noveske barrels of old when John was still alive. Noveske. Period. Not sure where the "hearsay" is for the underlined portion but they are very much top tier. ETA: Didn't see the available options you had posted for what you were tentatively looking for. Investing a decent amount in the barrel won't really hurt you in the immediate or long haul. If I had to rank what I would line-up, I'd go with this: Noveske, LaRue, Criterion, Sionic, BCM.... After hearing about how DD is selling out, I'm avoiding them. I'd put Triarc up near the top of any list |
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Posted: 7/31/2022 11:55:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Daniel defense. They replaced my shot-out 10.3" without me asking or expecting them to. I'll continue to recommend their barrels. |
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Posted: 7/31/2022 11:59:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd put Triarc up near the top of any list Brain fart on my end. Add Triarc to that list indeed. |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 12:02:58 AM EDT
[#15]
BCA
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Posted: 8/1/2022 12:22:34 AM EDT
[#16]
Interesting. Lots of comments so far!
Lots of the suggested barrels seem to be out of stock. I've found the Core in stock at stockpile defense. Looking for others in stock as well. ETA: Any feedback on Stockpile Defense? G2G? |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 12:25:26 AM EDT
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My 11.5" G is very accurate.
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Posted: 8/1/2022 12:33:34 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/1/2022 12:35:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Noveske. Period. Not sure where the "hearsay" is for the underlined portion but they are very much top tier. ETA: Didn't see the available options you had posted for what you were tentatively looking for. Investing a decent amount in the barrel won't really hurt you in the immediate or long haul. If I had to rank what I would line-up, I'd go with this: Noveske, LaRue, Criterion, Sionic, BCM.... After hearing about how DD is selling out, I'm avoiding them. ? edit: Never any complaints from my DD barrels. |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 12:36:15 AM EDT
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Fwiw I shot a 4 moa 22 round group with irons at 200 yards from the prone with a cheap ass psa 11.5" fsb upper and carry handle shooting wild steel cased ammo.
Barrels are so good now a days its much less of an issue than in the past. Same for the elements. Any nitrided or stainless barrel will hold up better than a parked barrel. |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 12:47:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fwiw I shot a 4 moa 22 round group with irons at 200 yards from the prone with a cheap ass psa 11.5" fsb upper and carry handle shooting wild steel cased ammo. Barrels are so good now a days its much less of an issue than in the past. Same for the elements. Any nitrided or stainless barrel will hold up better than a parked barrel. I’d agree with general accuracy purposes but this is my HD, life on the line, don’t cheap out gun. After many many moons, I was finally able to acquire a stupid urx3 10.75” handguard and will swap the barrel out to a 11.5. Renting the URX tool from a buddy and just want to get as solid of a SHTF barrel as I possibly can. Even better if it’s got a profile and port size to favor suppressed shooting. |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 12:53:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’d agree with general accuracy purposes but this is my HD, life on the line, don’t cheap out gun. After many many moons, I was finally able to acquire a stupid urx3 10.75” handguard and will swap the barrel out to a 11.5. Renting the URX tool from a buddy and just want to get as solid of a SHTF barrel as I possibly can. Even better if it’s got a profile and port size to favor suppressed shooting. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fwiw I shot a 4 moa 22 round group with irons at 200 yards from the prone with a cheap ass psa 11.5" fsb upper and carry handle shooting wild steel cased ammo. Barrels are so good now a days its much less of an issue than in the past. Same for the elements. Any nitrided or stainless barrel will hold up better than a parked barrel. I’d agree with general accuracy purposes but this is my HD, life on the line, don’t cheap out gun. After many many moons, I was finally able to acquire a stupid urx3 10.75” handguard and will swap the barrel out to a 11.5. Renting the URX tool from a buddy and just want to get as solid of a SHTF barrel as I possibly can. Even better if it’s got a profile and port size to favor suppressed shooting. That's my point. Just Google what you want and pick one. It would be really hard to make a bad decision. You have to search "worst 11.5" barrel" to do so. Bcm FN Green mountain Psa Windam Brownells Faxon Ballistic advantage White oak Daniel defense Spikes/FN |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 12:55:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Daniel defense. They’re not getting another dollar of mine. |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 1:00:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even better if it’s got a profile and port size to favor suppressed shooting. Easy. Geissele. |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 1:02:17 AM EDT
[#25]
Hammer Forged BCM
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Posted: 8/1/2022 6:09:49 AM EDT
[#26]
Criterion CORE is a an excellent barrel choice
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Posted: 8/1/2022 6:37:05 AM EDT
[#27]
Colt, FN, or BCM
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Posted: 8/1/2022 10:59:03 AM EDT
[#28]
There you go, OP: ARFCOM’s short list of good 11.5” barrels.
 Apparently, what 03RN said is correct. 
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Posted: 8/1/2022 12:31:36 PM EDT
[#29]
ETA:
Bought the Criterion Core 11.5. We'll see how it goes when it shows up. I'll run an Aero or Superlative AGB on it to tune it to my suppressor use. Looks like its a solid barrel that is rugged and accurate. |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 12:50:12 PM EDT
[#30]
Criterion Core 11.5 has 1/8 twist and .625 gas block journal diameter which are aspects to take into consideration.
IMO, Top shelf 11.5 barrels for separate purchase are going to be: Proof research carbon fiber (yes I know you’re not wanting to spend that $$$), Noveske SS, and Daniel Defense. |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 10:07:38 PM EDT
[#31]
If this is going to be for hard use, forget about Faxon. Ballistic Advantage is pretty dang good for the price. I really like the Hanson profile with the .750 has journal. It handles heat pretty well in terms of retaining accuracy. My latest assembly, with hard use in mind, is built around a Criterion 12.5" hyrid barrel. I went hybrid because I see a suppressor in my near future and I wanted the extra heft. When talking about a barrel that short, there isn't much difference between the Core and the Hybrid profiles in terms of weight. From the research I did, the Hybrid profile is intended for hard use and holds its accuracy better than the Core profile.
I can say that even when HOT, the Criterion holds things together. I got jaw dropping accuracy out of mine with M193, shooting 10 shot groups that amounted to a ragged hole at 50 yards and my BA barrels would never do that with M193. Just yesterday I hit 10 out of 10 clay pigeons at 100 yards off of the back stop and that was after I just got through running three mags of transitions drills. The criterion is definitely worth the money. I got my 12.5 at ar15discounts. They had a few left when I last looked. I'm thinking about replacing my 11.3 BA with a lightweight Criterion. I'm a big fan now. The Criterion is also gassed properly. I run an A5 tube with an H2 buffer. I run a lot of steel with some brass mixed in. I ran steel fine, but failed to lock back an empty mag a few times. I replaced one of the tungsten weights in my buffer with a steel one, and all was good after that. It shoots very soft. The difference between the 12.5 Criterion Hybrid and the 11.3 BA Hanson with .625 gas journal was like night and day. |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 11:11:15 PM EDT
[#32]
Colt FBI/HRT 11.5 barrel, medium (Socom) profile and .069 gas port is a good shooter.
Cheapest price I’ve seen in a while $320 https://www.armsunlimited.com/Colt-M4-Commando-11-5-inch-556mm-Barrel-Assembly-p/sp401757.htm |
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Posted: 8/1/2022 11:43:53 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Colt FBI/HRT 11.5 barrel, medium (Socom) profile and .069 gas port is a good shooter. Cheapest price I’ve seen in a while $320 https://www.armsunlimited.com/Colt-M4-Commando-11-5-inch-556mm-Barrel-Assembly-p/sp401757.htm FSB. Why? |
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Posted: 8/2/2022 1:20:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FSB. Why? I haven’t seen Colt sell these barrels stripped, would prefer it though. |
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Posted: 8/2/2022 9:23:27 AM EDT
[#35]
Spike's FN CHF 11.5" lightweight, $267 @ Lanbo's
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Posted: 8/2/2022 10:06:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I haven’t seen Colt sell these barrels stripped, would prefer it though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: FSB. Why? I haven’t seen Colt sell these barrels stripped, would prefer it though. So dated... |
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Posted: 8/2/2022 10:13:12 AM EDT
[#37]
I am partial to Daniel Defense and Colt barrels.
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Posted: 8/3/2022 8:44:09 AM EDT
[#38]
Topic Moved
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Posted: 8/3/2022 9:40:23 AM EDT
[#39]
My Colt 11.5", FBI profile barrel has been great. Lot's of great choices for 11.5" barrels.
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Posted: 8/3/2022 12:19:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Daniel defense. 
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Posted: 8/3/2022 12:19:47 PM EDT
[#41]
Faxon mid-length.
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Posted: 8/3/2022 12:35:08 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Criterion Core 11.5 has 1/8 twist and .625 gas block journal diameter which are aspects to take into consideration. IMO, Top shelf 11.5 barrels for separate purchase are going to be: Proof research carbon fiber (yes I know you’re not wanting to spend that $$$), Noveske SS, and Daniel Defense. The 1/8 is phenomenal in my Criterion Hybrid, and a 625 means more room underneath to fit and not flex bump the free float, especially the popular skinny ones. Nothing to take into, the combo is perfect really. |
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Posted: 8/3/2022 12:45:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So dated... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: FSB. Why? I haven’t seen Colt sell these barrels stripped, would prefer it though. So dated... This again? If you want the FSB off, then take it off. I did, done. But some are not bothered and actually like the FSB. It's an already there natural index point. If the user believes in back up sights, the fixed front is one less thing to deploy and while a bump may throw rail mounted front sight's zero off, a fixed front sight block will not. If you're worried about not being able to free float, there's options for that too. Daniel Defense Omega if the user wants the traditional look. And Midwest Industries and Centurion Arms both have Mlok free float options that extends past the FSB for those seeking options with more real estate. |
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Posted: 8/3/2022 1:06:49 PM EDT
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Centurion Arms offers a lightweight barrel and midweight barrel with a small, FBI size gas port. The midweight barrel is almost 2oz. heavier than a government weight barrel and the lightweight barrel is about 2oz lighter than a government weight barrel.
Daniel Defense sells a good government weight barrel. Spikes Tactical has a good 11.5" pencil barrel, but its gas port may be a bit large. The Colt FBI barrel is about 3 or 4oz heavier than a government weight barrel. |
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Posted: 8/3/2022 2:05:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They’re not getting another dollar of mine. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:Daniel defense. They’re not getting another dollar of mine. Quoted: Never any complaints from my DD barrels. It’s not about their hardware, it’s about their new found corporate policies. |
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Posted: 8/3/2022 6:59:27 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: FSB. Why? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Colt FBI/HRT 11.5 barrel, medium (Socom) profile and .069 gas port is a good shooter. Cheapest price I’ve seen in a while $320 https://www.armsunlimited.com/Colt-M4-Commando-11-5-inch-556mm-Barrel-Assembly-p/sp401757.htm FSB. Why? 30 seconds with a dremel and you have the most bombproof gas block imaginable. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 12:06:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This again? If you want the FSB off, then take it off. I did, done. But some are not bothered and actually like the FSB. It's an already there natural index point. If the user believes in back up sights, the fixed front is one less thing to deploy and while a bump may throw rail mounted front sight's zero off, a fixed front sight block will not. If you're worried about not being able to free float, there's options for that too. Daniel Defense Omega if the user wants the traditional look. And Midwest Industries and Centurion Arms both have Mlok free float options that extends past the FSB for those seeking options with more real estate. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: FSB. Why? I haven’t seen Colt sell these barrels stripped, would prefer it though. So dated... This again? If you want the FSB off, then take it off. I did, done. But some are not bothered and actually like the FSB. It's an already there natural index point. If the user believes in back up sights, the fixed front is one less thing to deploy and while a bump may throw rail mounted front sight's zero off, a fixed front sight block will not. If you're worried about not being able to free float, there's options for that too. Daniel Defense Omega if the user wants the traditional look. And Midwest Industries and Centurion Arms both have Mlok free float options that extends past the FSB for those seeking options with more real estate. I prefer guns with the fsb but there are some negatives. The taper pins can bulge the bore. There are also some IR/NVG device combos that bloom on the fsb. |
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Posted: 8/4/2022 2:40:07 PM EDT
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My take is DD or Colt FBI 11.5" with the proper gas port, that is if you run suppressed.
Otherwise, I think any other CHF one will do. Or adjustable gas block, etc |
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