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Posted: 5/23/2020 11:20:55 AM EDT
  I figure my only options here are MAYBE cut down a wrench to a small L and somehow get in there. Or else I don't know...Another muzzle device. |
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Posted: 5/23/2020 11:29:07 AM EDT
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Not sure what I'm looking at.
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Posted: 5/23/2020 11:30:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure what I'm looking at. Adjustable gas block screw is blocked by muzzle device shoulders. |
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Posted: 5/23/2020 11:31:27 AM EDT
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There's truly no happy medium setting you can set and forget it on?
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Posted: 5/23/2020 11:31:55 AM EDT
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Ball end Allen wrench looks like it might work. If not, cutting one down will probably be your only option.
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Posted: 5/23/2020 11:35:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's truly no happy medium setting you can set and forget it on? If he’s wanting to tune it with the can on for a dedicated suppressed setup, not really, only way to get it there is with live fire with the can mounted. If he’s looking to tune it to a “happy medium” he could just tune it with no muzzle device mounted unsuppressed, then mount the muzzle device back up when he’s done. One of the many reasons I prefer adjustable carriers over AGBs. |
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Posted: 5/23/2020 11:40:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If he’s wanting to tune it with the can on for a dedicated suppressed setup, not really, only way to get it there is with live fire with the can mounted. If he’s looking to tune it to a “happy medium” he could just tune it with no muzzle device mounted unsuppressed, then mount the muzzle device back up when he’s done. One of the many reasons I prefer adjustable carriers over AGBs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There's truly no happy medium setting you can set and forget it on? If he’s wanting to tune it with the can on for a dedicated suppressed setup, not really, only way to get it there is with live fire with the can mounted. If he’s looking to tune it to a “happy medium” he could just tune it with no muzzle device mounted unsuppressed, then mount the muzzle device back up when he’s done. One of the many reasons I prefer adjustable carriers over AGBs. Fair enough. |
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Posted: 5/23/2020 12:14:45 PM EDT
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If you would consider a different gas block, OP, Strike Industries makes an adjustable unit that is adjusted via a collar on the rear.
You can access it through the hand guard. |
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Posted: 5/23/2020 12:19:09 PM EDT
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Micro MOA govnah is truly your only option!
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Posted: 5/23/2020 12:24:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Micro MOA govnah is truly your only option! aww that's mean. 
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Posted: 5/23/2020 12:29:23 PM EDT
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It looks like you could get an allen key on it
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Posted: 5/23/2020 12:32:50 PM EDT
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Needle nose vice grips for the win!
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Posted: 5/23/2020 1:41:08 PM EDT
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Dremel a slot at 12:00 on the flange.
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Posted: 5/23/2020 1:48:05 PM EDT
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Time muzzle device. Mark it where it needs a relief cut. Remove and notch it. Reinstall.
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Posted: 5/23/2020 1:52:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Time muzzle device. Mark it where it needs a relief cut. Remove and notch it. Reinstall. Quote HistoryQuoted: Time muzzle device. Mark it where it needs a relief cut. Remove and notch it. Reinstall. Quoted: Dremel a slot at 12:00 on the flange. Well shit...... That's a damn good idea.  Thanks!
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Posted: 5/23/2020 2:06:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well shit...... That's a damn good idea. Thanks!Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Time muzzle device. Mark it where it needs a relief cut. Remove and notch it. Reinstall. Quoted: Dremel a slot at 12:00 on the flange. Well shit...... That's a damn good idea. Thanks!Are you trying to tune it with your can installed? If so, notching the muzzle device won’t help you. If not, just tune it without the muzzle device installed and install it afterwards, negating the need to butcher your suppressor mount. |
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Posted: 5/23/2020 2:10:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you trying to tune it with your can installed? If so, notching the muzzle device won’t help you. If not, just tune it without the muzzle device installed and install it afterwards, negating the need to butcher your suppressor mount. I don't have a can  Does tuning adjustable gas blocks need to be done if you are a reloader? Or is the range broad enough to where if it goes bang with one it will go bang with the other? |
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Posted: 5/23/2020 2:15:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't have a can Does tuning adjustable gas blocks need to be done if you are a reloader? Or is the range broad enough to where if it goes bang with one it will go bang with the other? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Are you trying to tune it with your can installed? If so, notching the muzzle device won’t help you. If not, just tune it without the muzzle device installed and install it afterwards, negating the need to butcher your suppressor mount. I don't have a can Does tuning adjustable gas blocks need to be done if you are a reloader? Or is the range broad enough to where if it goes bang with one it will go bang with the other? Really depends on how you tune it. Unless you’ve got a barrel with a massively oversized gas port or are tuning a gun to the ragged edge of reliability with lightweight reciprocating components for “gamer” purposes (which would mean sticking to one specific load for the rifle), I see little reason for an AGB on an unsuppressed gun in the first place. What are you trying to accomplish with the AGB? Why are you using that specific suppressor mount if you don’t have a suppressor to mount to it? |
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Posted: 5/23/2020 2:24:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Really depends on how you tune it. Unless you’ve got a barrel with a massively oversized gas port or are tuning a gun to the ragged edge of reliability with lightweight reciprocating components for “gamer” purposes (which would mean sticking to one specific load for the rifle), I see little reason for an AGB on an unsuppressed gun in the first place. What are you trying to accomplish with the AGB? Why are you using that specific suppressor mount if you don’t have a suppressor to mount to it? It's a midlength 11.5 and I just want reliable cycling I really liked the way the brake looked  Maybe I should adjust it with bare muzzle to where it's reliable and then put the muzzle device on? |
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Posted: 5/23/2020 2:27:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a midlength 11.5 and I just want reliable cycling I really liked the way the brake looked Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Really depends on how you tune it. Unless you’ve got a barrel with a massively oversized gas port or are tuning a gun to the ragged edge of reliability with lightweight reciprocating components for “gamer” purposes (which would mean sticking to one specific load for the rifle), I see little reason for an AGB on an unsuppressed gun in the first place. What are you trying to accomplish with the AGB? Why are you using that specific suppressor mount if you don’t have a suppressor to mount to it? It's a midlength 11.5 and I just want reliable cycling I really liked the way the brake looked That’s a long gas system on a short barrel in the first place. Most of the ones I’ve seen sold are advertised as being for use on dedicated suppressed guns. What makes you think you needed an AGB? If anything, I could see that gun being undergassed without a suppressor, not the other way around. ETA: Are you using a Faxon barrel? I see they recommend an AGB with their barrel because the gas port has to be hogged out for reliable function. They also specifically advertise the barrel as being perfect for use with suppressors. Definitely wouldn’t be my choice for use 100% unsuppressed but I’d be interested to see how it works. ETA 2: If so, I’d either just swap out to a smaller diameter muzzle device or just notch it and move on with life. Seems to be some mixed reports on unsuppressed functionality with lighter .223 pressure loads, but only way to know for sure is to test it out. Tuning the block with the muzzle device removed should work as well. |
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Posted: 5/24/2020 8:35:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dremel a slot at 12:00 on the flange. I was thinking the same thing. Just make sure the muzzle device is attached exactly / semi permanently where you want it . |
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Posted: 5/24/2020 12:49:14 PM EDT
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Or you could take the gas adjustment screw out and grind some flats on the outside of it so you can get or make a small wrench to fit on it.
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Posted: 5/24/2020 12:53:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't have a can Does tuning adjustable gas blocks need to be done if you are a reloader? Or is the range broad enough to where if it goes bang with one it will go bang with the other? Oof. If anything your barrel will be undergassed, meaning the gas block would need to be opened anyway. Adding an adjustable gas block does you no favors here, especially without a suppressor. |
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Posted: 5/24/2020 1:07:16 PM EDT
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That’s a Griffin Armament taper mount tactical comp. That sloped surface at the rear is the surface that the taper mount locks onto. You don’t want to mess that up, unless you never intend to use a GA suppressor, or other can that uses the GA taper mount via Plan A.
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Posted: 5/25/2020 7:13:28 AM EDT
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Not to change the subject, the muzzle device has a weld on it? I am not familiar with GA, but what is the weld bead for? Or am I looking at the picture wrong?
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Posted: 5/25/2020 8:43:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not to change the subject, the muzzle device has a weld on it? I am not familiar with GA, but what is the weld bead for? Or am I looking at the picture wrong? They're assembled from 2 pieces to simplify manufacturing. |
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Posted: 5/25/2020 9:59:09 AM EDT
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Get some weak ammo like PMC Bronze or Tula. Take the muzzle device off. Open the gas block all the way up. Load and fire a round. If the bolt locks back, close the block until it won't lock back. Then open it back up until it locks back again and then open the block a little more still. Put the muzzle device back on. Or, if you don't care about cycling weak ammo, do this with whatever ammo you want it to cycle.
Use Rocksett and relatively low torque on the muzzle device. If you need to remove it later, soak it in water for a few hours. You'll probably wind up with the block open all the way, so access to the adjustment screw is likely to be a moot point anyway. |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 7:57:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ball end Allen wrench looks like it might work. If not, cutting one down will probably be your only option. This is the correct answer. It looks like you have enough gap there that a ball end Allen wrench should work just fine. Here's a photo illustrating what I mean:  Try this before grinding or removing anything. |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 10:48:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is the correct answer. It looks like you have enough gap there that a ball end Allen wrench should work just fine. Here's a photo illustrating what I mean: https://toolguyd.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Bondhus-Tools-that-Work-Ball-Driver.jpg Try this before grinding or removing anything. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ball end Allen wrench looks like it might work. If not, cutting one down will probably be your only option. This is the correct answer. It looks like you have enough gap there that a ball end Allen wrench should work just fine. Here's a photo illustrating what I mean: https://toolguyd.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Bondhus-Tools-that-Work-Ball-Driver.jpg Try this before grinding or removing anything. If its the faxon barrel and Superlative Arms gas block ball end works, but barely. |
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Posted: 5/28/2020 11:38:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a midlength 11.5 and I just want reliable cycling I really liked the way the brake looked Maybe I should adjust it with bare muzzle to where it's reliable and then put the muzzle device on? You have almost no dwell distance. Unless the gas port is oversized, I don't think the gun will cycle, but I've never tried it myself. |
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Posted: 5/29/2020 1:29:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a midlength 11.5 and I just want reliable cycling I? People just don't get it. Adjustable gas blocks only give you less gas, they can't give you more gas. People run adjustable gas blocks so they can tune the gun down to where it barely cycles for reduced recoil and so they can run exotic titanium LW bolt carriers. Despite what some may say, I have absolutely never had over gassed cause a reliability problem. |
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Posted: 5/30/2020 2:34:22 AM EDT
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Solution: ditch the adjustable gas block.
Not trying to be snarky here, but seriously... it’s an 11.5 middy... you need gas. |
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Posted: 5/30/2020 5:19:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ball end Allen wrench looks like it might work. If not, cutting one down will probably be your only option. Hard to tell the angle from the pics, but that was my first thought. I’d try that before trying anything else. This is what we’re talking about-https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Hex-Allen-Wrench-Ball/dp/B0776C2D6H |
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Posted: 5/30/2020 12:18:36 PM EDT
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Don’t over complicate it, ditch the adjustable GB
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