User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 7/6/2019 11:16:28 AM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lucreau:
Is that a real deal mk18 fsp ris? Or cutdown Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lucreau:
Originally Posted By cjwwd2:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/272939/F658C71B-3FAE-4521-809A-FB624ECA2D0B_jpeg-1004089.JPG |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/6/2019 11:59:03 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Believe his is a factory Mk18 FSP Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Lucreau:
Originally Posted By cjwwd2:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/272939/F658C71B-3FAE-4521-809A-FB624ECA2D0B_jpeg-1004089.JPG |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/6/2019 12:00:00 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts:
Is there any other source for SB or RC around the 700 mark or was au the only one? Are they getting more? Even my LGS's that carry suppressors are sold out over the past few weeks. It's almost like Trump's comments and the democrats filing legislation to ban suppressors made folks panic buy. Plenty of people here regret not buying a 2nd RC about a year ago when AU had them. I ended up grabbing 2 SB's back in February since supply was dwindling and you could almost get 2 SB's for the price of one NT4 |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/6/2019 12:12:25 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio: AU was the only vendor i have seen go that low in the last 1.5 years Even my LGS's that carry suppressors are sold out over the past few weeks. It's almost like Trump's comments and the democrats filing legislation to ban suppressors made folks panic buy. Plenty of people here regret not buying a 2nd RC about a year ago when AU had them. I ended up grabbing 2 SB's back in February since supply was dwindling and you could almost get 2 SB's for the price of one NT4 |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/6/2019 12:23:25 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: Yea I was ready to pull the trigger on an SB not long ago and I waited and they went out of stock. Now I don't know what to do. I want to get another suppressor going. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/6/2019 1:48:08 PM EDT
[#6]
Are the golden tickets still be honored by Surefire? If you had the choice would you go RC2 over the RC?
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/6/2019 1:58:29 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ejc204:
Are the golden tickets still be honored by Surefire? If you had the choice would you go RC2 over the RC? |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/6/2019 2:24:23 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bhavin22:
For clone RC. For anything else RC2 |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/6/2019 2:27:35 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001: Presampedepot is getting several in for preorder, They have 5 left at $1100. Your never going to get that $700 price again unless you find a used one unfortunately. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/6/2019 3:47:26 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: Well shit, guess I'm not getting one then. 
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/6/2019 5:19:59 PM EDT
[#11]
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/6/2019 5:31:12 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote History
And before anyone takes this too seriously, here's a friendly reminder: it's a joke. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/6/2019 5:45:16 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
https://i.imgur.com/VN59lTQ.jpg And before anyone takes this too seriously, here's a friendly reminder: it's a joke. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
And before anyone takes this too seriously, here's a friendly reminder: it's a joke.
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/6/2019 5:52:37 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe: https://i.imgur.com/VN59lTQ.jpg And before anyone takes this too seriously, here's a friendly reminder: it's a joke.
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/6/2019 6:10:08 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
https://i.imgur.com/VN59lTQ.jpg And before anyone takes this too seriously, here's a friendly reminder: it's a joke. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DontBuryMe:
And before anyone takes this too seriously, here's a friendly reminder: it's a joke. I had a clone and parted it out. Just too expensive for what I got. I have sense built an SBR that has been just as tough, more accurate, lighter, with better balance than the MK18 clone I had. That being said MK18s are still bad ass and I am not knocking anybody that decides it’s worth it to own one. |
|
|
|
JPN
|
Posted: 7/6/2019 6:32:59 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Smithy: Really its not a joke. I had a clone and parted it out. Just too expensive for what I got. I have sense built an SBR that has been just as tough, more accurate, lighter, with better balance than the MK18 clone I had. That being said MK18s are still bad ass and I am not knocking anybody that decides it’s worth it to own one. |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/6/2019 6:39:04 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrKV:
That's why you do both. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrKV:
Originally Posted By Smithy: Really its not a joke. I had a clone and parted it out. Just too expensive for what I got. I have sense built an SBR that has been just as tough, more accurate, lighter, with better balance than the MK18 clone I had. That being said MK18s are still bad ass and I am not knocking anybody that decides it’s worth it to own one. |
|
|
|
TX, USA
|
Posted: 7/6/2019 6:42:06 PM EDT
[#18]
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/6/2019 8:07:35 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Echo2-7:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48216269456_b05fc2a289_b.jpg |
|
|
|
USA
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 2:04:36 PM EDT
[#20]
Are there any risers that are "clone correct" for an Mk18 RIS II build with a EXPS3.0-TAN and G33? Is the Wilcox one good to go?
I just shot a AR-15 with the Unity Tactical FAST riser and it just seemed so natural having the EOTech up just a little higher. If the Wilcox is g2g which height should I be looking for? 0.410" or 5/8" or would that not matter on an Mk18 build? |
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 2:25:16 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Are there any risers that are "clone correct" for an Mk18 RIS II build with a EXPS3.0-TAN and G33? Is the Wilcox one good to go? I just shot a AR-15 with the Unity Tactical FAST riser and it just seemed so natural having the EOTech up just a little higher. If the Wilcox is g2g which height should I be looking for? 0.410" or 5/8" or would that not matter on an Mk18 build? No clone correct risers but if you want something as high as the unity tactical (2.33 o r whatever it is) you need a 5/8 inch riser for the standard ar height (i.e. non 416 / SCAR rail height). A lower 1/3 height optic plus a 1/2 inch or 5/8 inch riser will get you the unity tactical height. The .410s were made specifically for the 416 rail height (someone correct me if I’m wrong) I recently learned that ADM has an eotech riser that is compatible with the EXPS models that puts the eotech at a 1.93 height. I really like it on my SCAR. Augee had a great write up on another forum with pretty much every single combo of optic and riser you could want and the heights. I have it some place, I’ll see if I can find it and screen cap it here for you. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 2:38:56 PM EDT
[#22]
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 2:46:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brodband8]
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-:
Interesting photo....what’s mounted in place of a Peq? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/490874/D5059D4F-A147-4166-981C-FBFFE9CA524D_jpeg-1007683.JPG |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 2:48:38 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: psq-23. Basically a peq15 with built in laser range-finding capabilities. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 2:52:30 PM EDT
[#25]
So went to have a conjugal today with the MK18 and Surefire RC. The last range trip I could not get the suppressor mounted whatsoever, it felt like the tolerances on the 4 prong were too tight when slipping the suppressor on and it wouldn't seat at all.
So I since changed to another 4 prong to see if that was the culprit, Still no luck. My 2nd RC can is at a different dealer so I was unable to test if the can itself was the culprit but the lock ring was fully open and it seems to stop 1/2" before the end of the muzzle device. I bought this one second hand but there is no excessive carbon build up in the collar and the 4P is brand new so I'm thinking I may need to RMA this to Surefire. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 3:00:45 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
So went to have a conjugal today with the MK18 and Surefire RC. The last range trip I could not get the suppressor mounted whatsoever, it felt like the tolerances on the 4 prong were too tight when slipping the suppressor on and it wouldn't seat at all. So I since changed to another 4 prong to see if that was the culprit, Still no luck. My 2nd RC can is at a different dealer so I was unable to test if the can itself was the culprit but the lock ring was fully open and it seems to stop 1/2" before the end of the muzzle device. I bought this one second hand but there is no excessive carbon build up in the collar and the 4P is brand new so I'm thinking I may need to RMA this to Surefire. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 3:05:11 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Maybe give it a shot with some CLP on the SF4P? If its used then i would think it fits but is just being stubborn |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 3:07:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MILSPEC556]
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
I tried some CLP and tapping with a rubber mallet, she wouldn't go lol. I was scared if I banged too hard I wouldn't be able to get it off when I needed to leave the range. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Maybe give it a shot with some CLP on the SF4P? If its used then i would think it fits but is just being stubborn
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 3:08:09 PM EDT
[#29]
I had the same problem with my three prong. I have not been to the dealer to try it out on the four prong yet.
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 3:10:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: red6actual]
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: psq-23. Basically a peq15 with built in laser range-finding capabilities. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 3:12:29 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bhavin22:
I had the same problem with my three prong. I have not been to the dealer to try it out on the four prong yet. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bhavin22:
I had the same problem with my three prong. I have not been to the dealer to try it out on the four prong yet. Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
RMA may be the smart route. Knowing me, I would probably just hammer it on. Then never be able to remove it again. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 3:13:18 PM EDT
[#32]
I'm back baby! Finally renewed my member-ship. Felt odd without an avatar ...etc.
 Attached File |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 3:14:18 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
Shit, May need to contact Surefire then. Well I thought about the shooting off method but I didn't want to do that if needed lmao. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
Originally Posted By Bhavin22:
I had the same problem with my three prong. I have not been to the dealer to try it out on the four prong yet. Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
RMA may be the smart route. Knowing me, I would probably just hammer it on. Then never be able to remove it again. Brodband might too |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 3:21:09 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Honestly bro I think its probably just tight tolerances with the brand new muzzle devices. When krdt gets online he may have some tips. Brodband might too |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 3:26:08 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001: Only thing funny was the Salty ass 4P I had didn't fit either that's whats got me wondering why the hell it won't slip on but it could just be tolerances in general. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 3:26:45 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001: I tried some CLP and tapping with a rubber mallet, she wouldn't go lol. I was scared if I banged too hard I wouldn't be able to get it off when I needed to leave the range.
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 3:28:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: eMc9001]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: Hard to say. I have seen 4 prongs with prongs that were slightly bent cause fitment issues. (literally couldn't tell unless you mic'd them that they were bent.) Other than that I have no idea. Carbon build up inside the can should not cause fitment issues that I am aware of. As long as the locking collar is fully disengaged, it should slide on with relative ease. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: Hard to say. I have seen 4 prongs with prongs that were slightly bent cause fitment issues. (literally couldn't tell unless you mic'd them that they were bent.) Other than that I have no idea. Carbon build up inside the can should not cause fitment issues that I am aware of. As long as the locking collar is fully disengaged, it should slide on with relative ease. Originally Posted By wissota4:
I guess you would just need to take it home then
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 3:30:51 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
Only thing funny was the Salty ass 4P I had didn't fit either that's whats got me wondering why the hell it won't slip on but it could just be tolerances in general. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Honestly bro I think its probably just tight tolerances with the brand new muzzle devices. When krdt gets online he may have some tips. Brodband might too
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 3:35:12 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Alright yeah if its not sliding over a suppressor used SF4P then I would say it defintiely needs to be RMA'd. As long as you're sure the locking collar was fully opened up. I was messing with usmcmatt90's Warden the other day and got it stuck closed, off of a muzzle device. I guess I'll contact surefire, lame.
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 3:53:00 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
Yeah I had that problem as well when screwing with it but it was only because I was making sure the collar was not opening up all the way and I cinched it down too tight lol. I guess I'll contact surefire, lame.Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Alright yeah if its not sliding over a suppressor used SF4P then I would say it defintiely needs to be RMA'd. As long as you're sure the locking collar was fully opened up. I was messing with usmcmatt90's Warden the other day and got it stuck closed, off of a muzzle device. I guess I'll contact surefire, lame.I'm sure you've tried, but just to verify, once you have it on the MD, you're rotating the can to find the index notch so it can drop the last little bit, correct? |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 3:55:45 PM EDT
[#41]
Did someone say riser? Finally can go larping in my friends basement now.
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 3:59:50 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio:
Did someone say riser? Finally can go larping in my friends basement now.
https://i.imgur.com/KZYt2aq.jpg 
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 4:30:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: eMc9001]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: A single allen head screw holds the locking collar latch in place, after which you can just unscrew the entire collar. Removing it might give you a better idea where your clearance problem is. I'm sure you've tried, but just to verify, once you have it on the MD, you're rotating the can to find the index notch so it can drop the last little bit, correct? |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 4:44:04 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
I was going to try to mess with the collar but I didn't have an allen small enough with me at the time so I didn't bother with that. Correct on the notch, I would generally line it up but I spun the can around numerous times to get it to index and drop in the last amount. It wasn't even seating far enough to index to be honest, I could still see the index notch being clear of the collar by less than an 1/8" Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
Originally Posted By krdt: A single allen head screw holds the locking collar latch in place, after which you can just unscrew the entire collar. Removing it might give you a better idea where your clearance problem is. I'm sure you've tried, but just to verify, once you have it on the MD, you're rotating the can to find the index notch so it can drop the last little bit, correct? Before I sent it in I'd next look for carbon build up as a possible culprit. Sometimes carbon will accumulate just below the first bearing surface ring (the one with the index notch), and can actually extend past the edge of the ring and prevent proper seating. So, I'd check that and bring a little flathead screwdriver and mallet to chip it off if necessary. It's possible the first ring itself has some buildup (tolerances are fairly tight, so it doesn't take much), but I've found the area just below it to be more of a problem. The other possibility is that the previous owner used a different muzzle device and there might be some build up on the second bearing surface ring keeping the 4P from seating completely. If you've completely eliminated carbon as a possibility, it's probably going to need to go back to SF. Since you've tried two different 4Ps, I'd think the chances of both of them being out of spec to be highly unlikely. I'd probably pop the locking ring off just out of curiosity to see if it'd seat and if not, whether I could better see the obstruction, but if the locking ring is bent or out of spec, it'd kinda be a moot point even if it seated. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 4:55:52 PM EDT
[#45]
More RC woes
|
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 5:07:16 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: Ah, okay... figured, but had to check. Before I sent it in I'd next look for carbon build up as a possible culprit. Sometimes carbon will accumulate just below the first bearing surface ring (the one with the index notch), and can actually extend past the edge of the ring and prevent proper seating. So, I'd check that and bring a little flathead screwdriver and mallet to chip it off if necessary. It's possible the first ring itself has some buildup (tolerances are fairly tight, so it doesn't take much), but I've found the area just below it to be more of a problem. The other possibility is that the previous owner used a different muzzle device and there might be some build up on the second bearing surface ring keeping the 4P from seating completely. If you've completely eliminated carbon as a possibility, it's probably going to need to go back to SF. Since you've tried two different 4Ps, I'd think the chances of both of them being out of spec to be highly unlikely. I'd probably pop the locking ring off just out of curiosity to see if it'd seat and if not, whether I could better see the obstruction, but if the locking ring is bent or out of spec, it'd kinda be a moot point even if it seated. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 5:42:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: krdt]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
Solid advice thanks. I'll head over there again sometime next week and bring some tool's and make sure it's nothing on my end so I don't feel like a dumbass if it's something simple. The first inner mounting ring where the collar slips around seemed fairly clear of carbon and I cleaned it with CLP as well to see if there was any build up but I didn't check right below where the index notch was so I'll try that. If anything else it just may be out of spec and need replacing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001:
Originally Posted By krdt: Ah, okay... figured, but had to check. Before I sent it in I'd next look for carbon build up as a possible culprit. Sometimes carbon will accumulate just below the first bearing surface ring (the one with the index notch), and can actually extend past the edge of the ring and prevent proper seating. So, I'd check that and bring a little flathead screwdriver and mallet to chip it off if necessary. It's possible the first ring itself has some buildup (tolerances are fairly tight, so it doesn't take much), but I've found the area just below it to be more of a problem. The other possibility is that the previous owner used a different muzzle device and there might be some build up on the second bearing surface ring keeping the 4P from seating completely. If you've completely eliminated carbon as a possibility, it's probably going to need to go back to SF. Since you've tried two different 4Ps, I'd think the chances of both of them being out of spec to be highly unlikely. I'd probably pop the locking ring off just out of curiosity to see if it'd seat and if not, whether I could better see the obstruction, but if the locking ring is bent or out of spec, it'd kinda be a moot point even if it seated. 
The arrow is the blast chamber just below the first main index ring and the primary area I'd check; the circles are on the second bearing surface ring and could be another area to look. Carbon could certainly be a cause, but if you didn't notice a good amount of buildup when cleaning it with CLP, it's probably not the issue. The only other thought, and it's a long shot - I've never actually tried to see, but think it might be possible to reassemble the locking collar incorrectly. The locking collar should be snug against the body of the can when tight. If it's none of those, it'll probably turn out the previous owner slightly bent the locking collar or something silly like that. I believe SF test fires every can, so I doubt it came from the factory like that. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 5:51:16 PM EDT
[#48]
Note to self- once freedom rings for me- do not buy used can.
There's certain parts I actually prefer to buy used- like nearly everything. But barrel and bolt, no way. Looks like can is now added to that list. |
|
|
|
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 6:03:55 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: I tried to find a pic that better illustrates the areas I mean: http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/CQBR.050619.RC.Baffle.5026-03.jpg The arrow is the blast chamber just below the first main index ring and the primary area I'd check; the circles are on the second bearing surface ring and could be another area to look. Carbon could certainly be a cause, but if you didn't notice a good amount of buildup when cleaning it with CLP, it's probably not the issue. The only other thought, and it's a long shot - I've never actually tried to see, but think it might be possible to reassemble the locking collar incorrectly. The locking collar should be snug against the body of the can when tight. If it's none of those, it'll probably turn out the previous owner slightly bent the locking collar or something silly like that. I believe SF test fires every can, so I doubt it came from the factory like that. |
|
|
|
TX, USA
|
Posted: 7/7/2019 7:05:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: xmdris68]
[#50]
Been lurking on these threads for a bit. Just wanted to give my humble contribution. Plan on making it an SBR very soon.
|
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
Attached File
