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big_aug Joined Feb 2018 Posts 631 EE 100% (33) WV, USA	Posted: 9/25/2018 6:43:21 PM EDT [Last Edit: big_aug] [#1] Alright, that confirms it. DD MK18 it is. That's the one I was leaning towards Thanks

eMc9001 Member Joined Feb 2017 Posts 1041 EE 100% (174) NC, USA	Posted: 9/25/2018 7:01:55 PM EDT [#2] Quote History Originally Posted By SurtrsFire: This. I'm not a true cloner or anything but it annoys me to no end when people call their short guns a mk18. Some guy on YouTube did a 11.5" (or something like that) aero precision build. All aero parts. "Check out my mk18" It's like the Daniel defense "mk12" abortion View Quote
	- Selling left nut for a Wilcox NF T1/MRDS mount.

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Posted: 9/25/2018 7:06:56 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By big_aug:
Which do you guys like for a build? DD mk18 socom 10.3" or LMT cqb 10.5"?

https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/upper-receivers/ar-15-cqb-upper-receivers-5-56-picatinny-prod122615.aspx

https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/upper-receivers/mk18-stripped-socom-upper-receiver-w-handguard-only-sku100018030-81194-168713.aspx

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Colt, dd, andro all make 10.3". Colt being the obvious route for .mil correctness and all with some FN and colt/ diemaco sprinkled in. There are factory colt 10.3", or you can go the adco chopped route. DD works as do others, but, you know.

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Posted: 9/25/2018 7:20:43 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By SurtrsFire:
This.

I'm not a true cloner or anything but it annoys me to no end when people call their short guns a mk18.

Some guy on YouTube did a 11.5" (or something like that) aero precision build. All aero parts.

"Check out my mk18"

It's like the Daniel defense "mk12" abortion

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Originally Posted By compuvette:

LMT makes a nice upper but 10.3".....

This.

I'm not a true cloner or anything but it annoys me to no end when people call their short guns a mk18.

Some guy on YouTube did a 11.5" (or something like that) aero precision build. All aero parts.

"Check out my mk18"

It's like the Daniel defense "mk12" abortion

I remember when members would get called elitists or a snobs for saying colt is the way to go. Colt flakes I believe was the coin termed. hasnt happened in a long time but I remember laughing to myself while reading all the colt non colt arguments from a few years back. It was pretty entertaining.
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im not even sure if the top one belongs. It's almost a block2 mod1 eod if that were a thing.

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Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
I remember when members would get called elitists or a snobs for saying colt is the way to go. Colt flakes I believe was the coin termed. hasnt happened in a long time but I remember laughing to myself while reading all the colt non colt arguments from a few years back. It was pretty entertaining.
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im not even sure if the top one belongs. It's almost a block2 mod1 eod if that were a thing.
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I dont get twisted up over small shit like "omg using X mount instead of X mount" because end users switched shit as soon as they got it most of them time but when people use some 13.7" noveske or something and call it a mk18 because it's technically a sbr...just stop.

I have a lpvo on my mk18 upper

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Posted: 9/25/2018 7:48:04 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By big_aug:
Which do you guys like for a build? DD mk18 socom 10.3" or LMT cqb 10.5"?

https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/upper-receivers/ar-15-cqb-upper-receivers-5-56-picatinny-prod122615.aspx

https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/upper-receivers/mk18-stripped-socom-upper-receiver-w-handguard-only-sku100018030-81194-168713.aspx

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Posted: 9/25/2018 7:57:06 PM EDT

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I picked up an FDE Grip Stop to try out on the CQBR... and an SBA3 :\.

Probably silly considering my F1 is way overdue and could be approved any day, but oh well. Grip Stop arrived today and the SBA3 should be here tomorrow. Not sure the Grip Stop will replace my beloved TD Stubbies, but I figured I'd give it a try. I've only messed with it for a few minutes so far and I'm kinda on the fence. We shall see. At the very least I'll probably run it with the SBA3 until my F1 finally comes back.

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BigHate Joined Aug 2012 Posts 251 EE 100% (91) UT, USA	Posted: 9/25/2018 8:08:53 PM EDT [#8] Whats market price for RIS II FDE used? Not seeing much in the used market for rails.

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Posted: 9/25/2018 8:27:50 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By krdt:
I picked up an FDE Grip Stop to try out on the CQBR... and an SBA3 :\.

Probably silly considering my F1 is way overdue and could be approved any day, but oh well. Grip Stop arrived today and the SBA3 should be here tomorrow. Not sure the Grip Stop will replace my beloved TD Stubbies, but I figured I'd give it a try. I've only messed with it for a few minutes so far and I'm kinda on the fence. We shall see. At the very least I'll probably run it with the SBA3 until my F1 finally comes back.

http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/CQBR.092518.Grip.Stop-07.jpg

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Gripstop is probably the only thing I haven't tried lol. For some reason the full size tango down grip work's for me so much better in the angled hand grip position but I'd be curious to try one of those sometime.

- Selling left nut for a Wilcox NF T1/MRDS mount.

big_aug Joined Feb 2018 Posts 632 EE 100% (33) WV, USA	Posted: 9/25/2018 9:30:25 PM EDT [#10] I just didn't want to start an entire new thread for that basic question. This one seemed most appropriate.

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big_aug Joined Feb 2018 Posts 633 EE 100% (33) WV, USA	Posted: 9/25/2018 9:52:20 PM EDT [Last Edit: big_aug] [#12] I bought the DD MK18 upper off Brownells for $657 shipped after discount. Gonna be my first AR.

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Posted: 9/25/2018 9:56:40 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By krdt:
I picked up an FDE Grip Stop to try out on the CQBR... and an SBA3 :\.

Probably silly considering my F1 is way overdue and could be approved any day, but oh well. Grip Stop arrived today and the SBA3 should be here tomorrow. Not sure the Grip Stop will replace my beloved TD Stubbies, but I figured I'd give it a try. I've only messed with it for a few minutes so far and I'm kinda on the fence. We shall see. At the very least I'll probably run it with the SBA3 until my F1 finally comes back.

http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/CQBR.092518.Grip.Stop-07.jpg

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Been wanting to get a gripstop myself but idk, kac broomhandle been good to me over the years. Plus I been lazy to order one lol...

if it don't work out for you lemme know if you wanna offload it.

M4arc Member Joined Jun 2002 Posts 16174 EE 100% (162) VA, USA	Posted: 9/25/2018 9:57:51 PM EDT [#14] Quote History Originally Posted By SlasherMcGee: https://i.imgur.com/w6cmsds.jpg View Quote I like where this is headed!

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Posted: 9/25/2018 10:00:50 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By krdt:
I picked up an FDE Grip Stop to try out on the CQBR... and an SBA3 :\.

Probably silly considering my F1 is way overdue and could be approved any day, but oh well. Grip Stop arrived today and the SBA3 should be here tomorrow. Not sure the Grip Stop will replace my beloved TD Stubbies, but I figured I'd give it a try. I've only messed with it for a few minutes so far and I'm kinda on the fence. We shall see. At the very least I'll probably run it with the SBA3 until my F1 finally comes back.

http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/CQBR.092518.Grip.Stop-07.jpg

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That is damn sleek. Dibs for when the stamp comes in.

I almost got one but used prices were so close to knew with a discount code that I passed.

Eta- at least wth the sba3 you'll be half way there when the stamp rolls in. Hell, you could even find a colt 4 pos to run with the brace. Unless that's considered modification to the original design? Dum dum dum

Originally Posted By eMc9001:

Gripstop is probably the only thing I haven't tried lol. For some reason the full size tango down grip work's for me so much better in the angled hand grip position but I'd be curious to try one of those sometime.

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I've switched through em all too, except for the Lanco/ b5grip stop, and always come back to the versatility of a full size td vfg.

Originally Posted By big_aug:
I bought the DD MK18 upper off Brownells for $666 shipped after discount. Gonna be my first AR.

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That's ominous.

Spooled Member Joined Mar 2012 Posts 1862 EE 100% (118) TX, USA	Posted: 9/25/2018 10:07:35 PM EDT [#16] Attached File

Dyzastr Member Joined Sep 2017 Posts 1208 EE 100% (324) IN, USA	Posted: 9/25/2018 10:10:27 PM EDT [#17] Quote History Originally Posted By Spooled: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/297824/64EBD50F-04A1-4DC3-A431-D01BAC7113B5-683402.JPG View Quote Gawd dern, lookin better and better. Which riser?

Spooled Member Joined Mar 2012 Posts 1863 EE 100% (118) TX, USA	Posted: 9/25/2018 10:38:43 PM EDT [#18] Quote History Originally Posted By Dyzastr: Gawd dern, lookin better and better. Which riser? View Quote It's a Knight short riser, took me forever to track the thing down.

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Posted: 9/25/2018 11:55:13 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
Hell, you could even find a colt 4 pos to run with the brace. Unless that's considered modification to the original design? Dum dum dum

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Oh, I've got that department covered ;p. Got two Colt 4 position tubes on standby. And, once the F1 on the CQBR comes back, I can decide between LMT Gen 1, B5 poopy Gen 1, and a Colt N1 for good measure. I will say that having such a long wait has me well prepared, lol.

Starting to wish I'd bought another LMT Gen 1 when I had the chance, though. Ah, well.

I'll definitely let you guys know if I decide to get rid of the Grip Stop.

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Posted: 9/26/2018 12:09:35 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By krdt:
I picked up an FDE Grip Stop to try out on the CQBR... and an SBA3 :\.

Probably silly considering my F1 is way overdue and could be approved any day, but oh well. Grip Stop arrived today and the SBA3 should be here tomorrow. Not sure the Grip Stop will replace my beloved TD Stubbies, but I figured I'd give it a try. I've only messed with it for a few minutes so far and I'm kinda on the fence. We shall see. At the very least I'll probably run it with the SBA3 until my F1 finally comes back.

http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/CQBR.092518.Grip.Stop-07.jpg

http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/CQBR.092518.Grip.Stop-06.jpg

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Please do post images to compare an SBM4 to the A3! I cannot make up my damn mind about which one I'd prefer but I may jump on the Brownells 10% train tonight just to get the order on file for now, on an A3 that is. I just cannot decide on the looks....I think

Otherwise, is it common to see a teardrop FA on a block II MK18?

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Originally Posted By Subiescott:
Please do post images to compare an SBM4 to the A3! I cannot make up my damn mind about which one I'd prefer but I may jump on the Brownells 10% train tonight just to get the order on file for now, on an A3 that is. I just cannot decide on the looks....I think

Otherwise, is it common to see a teardrop FA on a block II MK18?

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Originally Posted By Subiescott:

Originally Posted By krdt:
I picked up an FDE Grip Stop to try out on the CQBR... and an SBA3 :\.

Probably silly considering my F1 is way overdue and could be approved any day, but oh well. Grip Stop arrived today and the SBA3 should be here tomorrow. Not sure the Grip Stop will replace my beloved TD Stubbies, but I figured I'd give it a try. I've only messed with it for a few minutes so far and I'm kinda on the fence. We shall see. At the very least I'll probably run it with the SBA3 until my F1 finally comes back.

http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/CQBR.092518.Grip.Stop-07.jpg

http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/CQBR.092518.Grip.Stop-06.jpg

Please do post images to compare an SBM4 to the A3! I cannot make up my damn mind about which one I'd prefer but I may jump on the Brownells 10% train tonight just to get the order on file for now, on an A3 that is. I just cannot decide on the looks....I think

Otherwise, is it common to see a teardrop FA on a block II MK18?

Yeah, I'm pretty curious to see how the two compare. Other than the lack of adjustability and being slightly on the heavy side, I am very happy with the SBM4. Suppose we'll see.

Teardrops aren't super common, but they're out there.

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Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
I remember when members would get called elitists or a snobs for saying colt is the way to go. Colt flakes I believe was the coin termed. hasnt happened in a long time but I remember laughing to myself while reading all the colt non colt arguments from a few years back. It was pretty entertaining.
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Remember the "none of you have real clones because you don't have selct fire lowers...so what's the difference?" arguments?

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Duck_Hunt Member Joined Feb 2017 Posts 1564 EE 100% (127) NC, USA	Posted: 9/26/2018 1:29:06 PM EDT [#23] FYI Botach has B5 sopmods in coyote and OD green for $49 shipped.

Wormydog1987 Joined Nov 2012 Posts 1425 EE 100% (36) TX, USA	Posted: 9/26/2018 1:39:39 PM EDT [#24] I don’t know what the top one is called, I just know the sound it makes when it oper8s.

tactical_dude Joined Mar 2009 Posts 1087 EE 100% (122) USA	Posted: 9/26/2018 2:31:53 PM EDT [#25] Quote History Originally Posted By Honda4828: FYI Botach has B5 sopmods in coyote and OD green for $49 shipped. View Quote Thank You! Was needing one for my URGI build.

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Originally Posted By Subiescott:

Please do post images to compare an SBM4 to the A3! I cannot make up my damn mind about which one I'd prefer but I may jump on the Brownells 10% train tonight just to get the order on file for now, on an A3 that is. I just cannot decide on the looks....I think

Otherwise, is it common to see a teardrop FA on a block II MK18?

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CCT guy I was with in AFG had a BkII Mk18 with a teardrop. First tear drop I had seen on a modern AR in the military not counting training when we had racks of M16 and M16A1s in 2003.

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Subiescott Joined Mar 2017 Posts 932 EE 100% (3) IL, USA	Posted: 9/26/2018 4:07:55 PM EDT [#27] Quote History Originally Posted By imdBman: CCT guy I was with in AFG had a BkII Mk18 with a teardrop. First tear drop I had seen on a modern AR in the military not counting training when we had racks of M16 and M16A1s in 2003. View Quote Ah ok. Yeah for a block ii, I know it isn't 100% correct but I do like the look.

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Originally Posted By krdt:

Yeah, I'm pretty curious to see how the two compare. Other than the lack of adjustability and being slightly on the heavy side, I am very happy with the SBM4. Suppose we'll see.

Teardrops aren't super common, but they're out there.

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I'm with you there, the SBM4 hasn't done me any wrong and it's got a decent look. But I'm very curious to see how an A3 leans up the back end let alone the ability to bottom out the brace to the end plate. But then that brings into play the whole ATF approved and 26" legal length deal.

Side note, what steel pills do you use? I'm weighing the option of switching to steel given it is cheaper and all. The downside is...not made in the USA. What say you?

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Originally Posted By Subiescott:
I'm with you there, the SBM4 hasn't done me any wrong and it's got a decent look. But I'm very curious to see how an A3 leans up the back end let alone the ability to bottom out the brace to the end plate. But then that brings into play the whole ATF approved and 26" legal length deal.

Side note, what steel pills do you use? I'm weighing the option of switching to steel given it is cheaper and all. The downside is...not made in the USA. What say you?

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Originally Posted By krdt:

Yeah, I'm pretty curious to see how the two compare. Other than the lack of adjustability and being slightly on the heavy side, I am very happy with the SBM4. Suppose we'll see.

Teardrops aren't super common, but they're out there.

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VIMmtF3_bKk/U4yHavjRTtI/AAAAAAAA9ZI/FM2kDt1pqw0/s1600/784282.jpg

I'm with you there, the SBM4 hasn't done me any wrong and it's got a decent look. But I'm very curious to see how an A3 leans up the back end let alone the ability to bottom out the brace to the end plate. But then that brings into play the whole ATF approved and 26" legal length deal.

Side note, what steel pills do you use? I'm weighing the option of switching to steel given it is cheaper and all. The downside is...not made in the USA. What say you?

When it comes to steel, Wolf is pretty much the only brand I buy. I shoot quite a bit of it and have no complaints - I've got 6,000rds or so of Wolf through my CQBR without malfunctions. So, it's reliable and more than accurate enough for shooting drills and bulk practice. It compares very favorably with the accuracy of most bulk M193/M855. When I can get Wolf Gold at $240-$250 delivered, I shoot that... but it's not consistently that cheap.

Keep in mind that shooting bi-metal projectiles is invariably going to lead to faster barrel wear; that's pretty much unavoidable. However, even taking faster barrel wear into consideration, the cost savings compared to shooting brass more than offsets the cost of early barrel replacement. Say, for example, you need to replace a barrel at 10,000 rounds due to shooting steel: after 10 cases you've saved at least $500, and probably more like $750 to $1000 over the cost of brass. Even swapping in a quality barrel, you're still several hundred ahead.

So, to me, shooting steel makes a lot of sense; cheaper ammo/more practice :D.

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Originally Posted By KILLERB6:

Remember the "none of you have real clones because you don't have selct fire lowers...so what's the difference?" arguments?

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...So since you guys don't have select fire lowers, heres my interpretation of mod -1 block4...its built on an aero upper with a 11.5" barrel, oh and a Troy alpha rail cause the rails hurt my hands. I looked back and I guess I started following in 2013. Before the first big thread change. I went off the date of the current thread, but forgot it started up a few different times.

hey, how much is a like new in box Fde or black docter worth these days? They've been poppin up and I want to get one but I'm not sure where to start price wise. Thanks.

Dyzastr Member Joined Sep 2017 Posts 1212 EE 100% (324) IN, USA	Posted: 9/26/2018 6:18:40 PM EDT [Last Edit: Dyzastr] [#31] Quote History Originally Posted By Wormydog1987: I don't know what the top one is called, I just know the sound it makes when it oper8s. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1918/29996204297_c1cd34874f_z.jpg View Quote Ping! Eta - great snag on the aimpoint combo. Got my eyes on one too.

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Originally Posted By krdt:

When it comes to steel, Wolf is pretty much the only brand I buy. I shoot quite a bit of it and have no complaints - I've got 6,000rds or so of Wolf through my CQBR without malfunctions. So, it's reliable and more than accurate enough for shooting drills and bulk practice. It compares very favorably with the accuracy of most bulk M193/M855. When I can get Wolf Gold at $240-$250 delivered, I shoot that... but it's not consistently that cheap.

Keep in mind that shooting bi-metal projectiles is invariably going to lead to faster barrel wear; that's pretty much unavoidable. However, even taking faster barrel wear into consideration, the cost savings compared to shooting brass more than offsets the cost of early barrel replacement. Say, for example, you need to replace a barrel at 10,000 rounds due to shooting steel: after 10 cases you've saved at least $500, and probably more like $750 to $1000 over the cost of brass. Even swapping in a quality barrel, you're still several hundred ahead.

So, to me, shooting steel makes a lot of sense; cheaper ammo/more practice :D.

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I feel you. I build my rig anyway so I have no issues swapping barrels when the time comes. Hell, that's practically an achievement anyway....to reach a certain benchmark of rounds and need a critical part replaced. I might try a case of the Wolf Military Classic. You get your stuff from SG? And hey where are those A3 photos?!

purevl2 Member Joined Aug 2009 Posts 5374 EE 100% (325) IL, USA	Posted: 9/26/2018 6:59:02 PM EDT [#33] Quote History Originally Posted By Honda4828: FYI Botach has B5 sopmods in coyote and OD green for $49 shipped. View Quote My man! Just got me 2!

Wormydog1987 Joined Nov 2012 Posts 1426 EE 100% (36) TX, USA	Posted: 9/26/2018 7:06:53 PM EDT [Last Edit: Wormydog1987] [#34] Quote History Originally Posted By Dyzastr: Ping! Eta - great snag on the aimpoint combo. Got my eyes on one too. View Quote I thought it was a great deal. I already have an aimpoint 3x mag setup but never hurts to have another.

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Originally Posted By Subiescott:
I feel you. I build my rig anyway so I have no issues swapping barrels when the time comes. Hell, that's practically an achievement anyway....to reach a certain benchmark of rounds and need a critical part replaced. I might try a case of the Wolf Military Classic. You get your stuff from SG? And hey where are those A3 photos?!

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Originally Posted By krdt:

When it comes to steel, Wolf is pretty much the only brand I buy. I shoot quite a bit of it and have no complaints - I've got 6,000rds or so of Wolf through my CQBR without malfunctions. So, it's reliable and more than accurate enough for shooting drills and bulk practice. It compares very favorably with the accuracy of most bulk M193/M855. When I can get Wolf Gold at $240-$250 delivered, I shoot that... but it's not consistently that cheap.

Keep in mind that shooting bi-metal projectiles is invariably going to lead to faster barrel wear; that's pretty much unavoidable. However, even taking faster barrel wear into consideration, the cost savings compared to shooting brass more than offsets the cost of early barrel replacement. Say, for example, you need to replace a barrel at 10,000 rounds due to shooting steel: after 10 cases you've saved at least $500, and probably more like $750 to $1000 over the cost of brass. Even swapping in a quality barrel, you're still several hundred ahead.

So, to me, shooting steel makes a lot of sense; cheaper ammo/more practice :D.

I feel you. I build my rig anyway so I have no issues swapping barrels when the time comes. Hell, that's practically an achievement anyway....to reach a certain benchmark of rounds and need a critical part replaced. I might try a case of the Wolf Military Classic. You get your stuff from SG? And hey where are those A3 photos?!

I get most of mine from Brownells - when they have it. Ends up being about $20-$30 cheaper per case than SG. FYI, Wolf WPA and Military Classic are both the same, so go for whichever is cheaper.

Actually about to install the SBA3 right now :D.

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DJ18

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Posted: 9/26/2018 7:31:55 PM EDT

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No, a certain size isn't important. Once you have the direct link, you click the "image icon" when creating the post, paste the link into it and you end up with [ img ]https://i.imgur.com/qHHlhj2.jpg[ /img ] (without the spaces).

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Well, I guess I got approved because Somehow my picture is magically up on my post. :)

daojag Member Joined Nov 2016 Posts 245 EE 100% (116) VA, USA	Posted: 9/26/2018 7:43:53 PM EDT [#37] So its the MCX based suppressed URG going to be the actual new block 3 (something), or just some other "available" URG?
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Posted: 9/26/2018 7:49:22 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By krdt:

I get most of mine from Brownells - when they have it. Ends up being about $20-$30 cheaper per case than SG. FYI, Wolf WPA and Military Classic are both the same, so go for whichever is cheaper.

Actually about to install the SBA3 right now :D.

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How you feel about the Barnaul laquered stuff? Same same or different?

SurtrsFire Joined Aug 2016 Posts 520 EE 100% (71) USA	Posted: 9/26/2018 7:50:47 PM EDT [#39] Quote History Originally Posted By daojag: So its the MCX based suppressed URG going to be the actual new block 3 (something), or just some other "available" URG? View Quote i wouldnt doubt the MCX getting some contracts with the way sig ~~has been lining peoples pockets to win~~ has been "winning" contracts recently.

daojag Member Joined Nov 2016 Posts 246 EE 100% (116) VA, USA	Posted: 9/26/2018 8:13:57 PM EDT [Last Edit: daojag] [#40] Quote History Originally Posted By SurtrsFire: i wouldnt doubt the MCX getting some contracts with the way sig ~~has been lining peoples pockets to win~~ has been "winning" contracts recently. View Quote They did, that's why I'm curious . Kind of ugly as hell, but then I actually like quad rails.
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SurtrsFire Joined Aug 2016 Posts 526 EE 100% (71) USA	Posted: 9/26/2018 8:22:39 PM EDT [#41] Quote History Originally Posted By daojag: They did, that's why I'm curious . Kind of ugly as hell, but then I actually like quad rails. View Quote quad rails are still the king when it comes to looks imo. mk18 and mk12 are easily the best 2 looking in recent times.

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Posted: 9/26/2018 9:00:40 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Subiescott:
How you feel about the Barnaul laquered stuff? Same same or different?

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Originally Posted By krdt:

I get most of mine from Brownells - when they have it. Ends up being about $20-$30 cheaper per case than SG. FYI, Wolf WPA and Military Classic are both the same, so go for whichever is cheaper.

Actually about to install the SBA3 right now :D.

How you feel about the Barnaul laquered stuff? Same same or different?

No experience with it, but Barnaul is who makes WPA/Military Classic for Wolf; I'd imagine it's GTG assuming that other than the lacquer it's made to the same specs as Wolf. One of the reasons I prefer Wolf is that it's loaded hotter compared to other steel brands. That, and the quality is very consistent (at least in recent years).

Anyway, about to take some pics of the SBA3 now.

Practice, the master of all things. - Augustus

Dyzastr Member Joined Sep 2017 Posts 1214 EE 100% (324) IN, USA	Posted: 9/26/2018 10:18:22 PM EDT [#43] Quote History Originally Posted By Subiescott: How you feel about the Barnaul laquered stuff? Same same or different? View Quote Not 1st hand, but I've heard the liqueur can gum up a chamber. Any truth to that?

SurtrsFire Joined Aug 2016 Posts 533 EE 100% (71) USA	Posted: 9/26/2018 10:24:07 PM EDT [#44] Quote History Originally Posted By Dyzastr: Not 1st hand, but I've heard the liqueur can gum up a chamber. Any truth to that? View Quote Dont remember who it was but someone recently did a video on that. The lacquer wasn't a problem at all but the steel not expanding and causing gas blowing back into the chamber caused a few problems.

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Posted: 9/26/2018 10:26:32 PM EDT

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Not 1st hand, but I've heard the liqueur can gum up a chamber. Any truth to that?

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Mostly gum up around the bolt face, extractor, and barrel extension. I've shot a bunch of steel ammo and back in the day was logging exactly how many rounds through each weapon and any effects on extractors, chamber, bore, etc. Got tired of it after 9k rounds through an HK USP 9mm and Noveske Recce after 11k. Lol.

My take on it all is that I shot steel because that's all I could afford and wanted more trigger time between deployments and on top of what Uncle Sam supplied. I closely watched springs and extractors for wear incase I needed to replace them. Once I could afford brass and the prices have gone down over the last few years I shoot commercially loaded and stage all my brass for reloading.

Oh and the newer braunaul is better laquer coating then circa 2005-2008. Same with Wolf's polycoating IMO.

Bduff Joined May 2018 Posts 16 EE 100% (1) UT, USA	Posted: 9/26/2018 11:38:55 PM EDT [Last Edit: Bduff] [#46] Here for those wanting the sba3 pics. I have a sbr’d Lower but it’s nice to have another one to travel with. Without all the hassle.

5pt56

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Posted: 9/26/2018 11:45:52 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Bduff:
http://i65.tinypic.com/2wrgjr5.jpg" target="_blank">http://i65.tinypic.com/2wrgjr5.jpg

Here for those wanting the sba3 pics. I have a sbr’d Lower but it’s nice to have another one to travel with. Without all the hassle.

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Yep! Doing that! Can you use a standard carbine tube with it? I'm thinking the tanodized one that I have?

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Posted: 9/26/2018 11:46:27 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Bduff:
http://i65.tinypic.com/2wrgjr5.jpg" target="_blank">http://i65.tinypic.com/2wrgjr5.jpg

Here for those wanting the sba3 pics. I have a sbr’d Lower but it’s nice to have another one to travel with. Without all the hassle.

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Originally Posted By Bduff:
http://i65.tinypic.com/2wrgjr5.jpg" target="_blank">http://i65.tinypic.com/2wrgjr5.jpg

Here for those wanting the sba3 pics. I have a sbr’d Lower but it’s nice to have another one to travel with. Without all the hassle.

I saw your painted lower and FDE Magpul grip and PMAG combo and immediately thought of asmig's Block II build...

Originally Posted By asmig:

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/358/19853343490_f11bf8f127_k.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/520/19853312310_49d6a1c026_k.jpg

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Bduff Joined May 2018 Posts 17 EE 100% (1) UT, USA	Posted: 9/27/2018 12:04:48 AM EDT [#49] Yeah mines on a colt 4 position.

5pt56 Joined Nov 2017 Posts 1261 EE 100% (1359) USA	Posted: 9/27/2018 12:08:57 AM EDT [#50] Quote History Originally Posted By Bduff: Yeah mines on a colt 4 position. View Quote Perfect, thank you!

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