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Posted: 8/15/2018 9:22:23 PM EDT
[#1]
I’m still enjoying this thread! Thanks for the update.
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Posted: 8/15/2018 10:29:15 PM EDT
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Thanks. Ten more carbine barrels at the shop on Monday ready for chambering. They called this morning to say they were done and ready for engraving. Blanks for rifle barrels arriving Friday (fingers crossed).
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Posted: 8/15/2018 10:32:42 PM EDT
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A buddy is making flash suppressors. Hope to see them soon.
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Posted: 8/15/2018 10:39:02 PM EDT
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Another is making rifle and carbine rear sight bases. I made a gauge/test fixture for him to check them for tolerances after bending.
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Posted: 8/15/2018 10:39:15 PM EDT
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Fantastic! |
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Posted: 8/15/2018 10:54:45 PM EDT
[#6]
Thanks. The first batch of carbine and Commando barrel blanks just out of the oil bath after parkerizing at a buddy's company.
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Posted: 8/15/2018 11:03:07 PM EDT
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Tried my hand at parkerizing some small parts at my house. Lauer manganese phosphate from Brownell's, a hot plate, a cheap sandblast cabinet, and compressor (and some mild cussing). They came out pretty close to the barrels. Not drilled or pinned yet.
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Posted: 8/15/2018 11:05:34 PM EDT
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I need this
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Posted: 8/15/2018 11:06:34 PM EDT
[#9]
Me too
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Posted: 8/15/2018 11:07:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/15/2018 11:50:18 PM EDT
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Not only is this build fascinating, the manner by which the parts were obtained is even more interesting. If the model proves to be sustainable, the implications are tremendous.
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Posted: 8/16/2018 2:41:43 PM EDT
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This thread continues to deliver
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Posted: 8/16/2018 3:07:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
This thread continues to deliver 
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Posted: 8/16/2018 3:08:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Not only is this build fascinating, the manner by which the parts were obtained is even more interesting. If the model proves to be sustainable, the implications are tremendous. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:00:23 PM EDT
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His creativity and ingenuity is the most impressive part of the project. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 11:10:25 PM EDT
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Hey now, I haven't roped anyone into anything (or were you referring to Mr. Stoner?). These guys are enthusiasts who found me and had these crazy ideas all on their own. I'm just a tiny cog in this wheel. I paid the company I work for to make some barrels for me (paid custom price, too). I only made the barrels for myself and friends. A bunch of people keep asking me for them. It wasn't my fault! (Jake Blues). It is a neat consortium, but my build is all original parts (except the furniture (modified airsoft) and a few hardware store fasteners
). Future builders may benefit from this consortium.
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Posted: 8/17/2018 8:02:55 AM EDT
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This is inspiring to say the least. I'd like nothing more than to see these go into production and be available to those of us without mad machining skills.
ka |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 3:28:16 PM EDT
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Unless a really big company with huge capabilities (that's what it's going to take...a really big company) to make or have made the hundreds of parts to manufacture this weapons system (look for it to cost what a semi M249 costs), it's going to be a cottage industry effort. Some DIY will be necessary (at the minimum, gathering of parts from various sources and assembling). I get more and more excited every time I am able to make something, a buddy makes something or a company says we have (or can make) some of those. We are pushing/prodding/poking four gun manufacturing companies to get involved in this project. If only two do, this project will happen. In the meanwhile, here is my modest, most recent contribution to the effort. 10 rifle barrel blanks.
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Posted: 8/17/2018 6:09:42 PM EDT
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This is inspiring to say the least. I'd like nothing more than to see these go into production and be available to those of us without mad machining skills. ka |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 9:24:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've long wanted something like this, but I have little machining, welding, gunsmithing, etc. knowledge or equipment and tools, so I think it'll likely remain out of reach for someone such as myself. Very cool, though. ka |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 10:44:54 PM EDT
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I've arleady run across three people who install the parts on the barrels. I'm sure there will be others who will make fixtures and others who will assist with welding or even sell complete receivers down the road. No promoses there, but just based on what has materialized so far, I can see it happening.
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Posted: 8/17/2018 11:30:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If somebody would build these, they would sell. The price would be high and the profit would be minimal...but they WOULD sell.
ka |
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Posted: 8/19/2018 1:12:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've long wanted something like this, but I have little machining, welding, gunsmithing, etc. knowledge or equipment and tools, so I think it'll likely remain out of reach for someone such as myself. Very cool, though. |
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Posted: 8/21/2018 5:50:09 PM EDT
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Had some spare time today, so I finished up a Stoner rifle front sight drilling fixture.
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Posted: 8/21/2018 6:11:19 PM EDT
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And ten more carbine barrels ready for the manganese phosphate bath.
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Posted: 8/21/2018 8:42:31 PM EDT
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This is like one of Fluffy's porn threads...
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Posted: 8/21/2018 9:23:55 PM EDT
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Fluffy who? Is she cute? Skanky? Not that it matters. This is strictly gun porn.
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Posted: 8/21/2018 10:47:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fluffy who? Is she cute? Skanky? Not that it matters. Fluffy is the foremost Canadian restorer of Italian Garands. He starts w/ stripped receivers and has complete rifles built. |
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Posted: 8/22/2018 5:52:52 AM EDT
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@FluffyTheCat Fluffy is the foremost Canadian restorer of Italian Garands. He starts w/ stripped receivers and has complete rifles built. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Fluffy who? Is she cute? Skanky? Not that it matters. Fluffy is the foremost Canadian restorer of Italian Garands. He starts w/ stripped receivers and has complete rifles built. 
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Posted: 8/22/2018 3:45:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
This is like one of Fluffy's porn threads...
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Posted: 8/22/2018 4:14:12 PM EDT
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M1's will always have a place in my threads.
 Beautiful rifles. Nice set of consecutives, Fluffy.
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Posted: 8/22/2018 5:39:55 PM EDT
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I have a friend trying to move some original Stoner front end pieces from two demilled rifles: front sight / gasblock with demil barrel and demil gas tube sections still attached, one long front end of the shroud, one rear end of the shroud and what looks like the trunnion. I'd post up pics here but like many others photobucket jammed my free photo sharing.
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Posted: 8/22/2018 6:27:37 PM EDT
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I use imgur (until they pull a similar stunt
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Posted: 8/22/2018 8:43:37 PM EDT
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This thread:
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Posted: 8/23/2018 4:38:21 PM EDT
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First rifle barrel just came off the machine. Hopefully I can take them for phosphating next week. A buddy just sent me a photo of a receiver he made from scratch. I can't publish the photo, but when he gets up and running with them.....
 
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Posted: 8/23/2018 5:16:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/23/2018 5:21:32 PM EDT
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Nice. That Commando sight is hen's teeth and worth quite a bit (if it's servicable). Those other parts bring good money if still servicable (trunnion, barrel extension).
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Posted: 8/23/2018 5:49:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
https://imgur.com/a/8yYK3hc |
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Posted: 8/23/2018 6:02:28 PM EDT
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The ejector block and rear trunnion are pretty plentiful from other sources
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Posted: 8/24/2018 8:01:51 PM EDT
[#40]
Picked up barrels from the shop today. Lots of parkerizing to do next week...and drilling....
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Posted: 8/24/2018 11:02:33 PM EDT
[#41]
Sweet!!!
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Posted: 9/1/2018 4:24:20 PM EDT
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Saw the S&W 39 with a can so I thought I'd throw this up here..
Here is a later version built by KAC in the 90's... I bought a few from Reed years back just got one back after the owner passed... 
We use to sit around KC and the camp fire and test it out... LOL The last of the "Penguin Scouts" PTRS |
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Posted: 9/5/2018 4:22:33 PM EDT
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Phosphated some rifle and carbine barrels last week. LMG barrels are being turned now....hopefully.
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Posted: 9/5/2018 11:59:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/6/2018 7:30:28 PM EDT
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LMG barrels machined. Waiting for engraving.
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Posted: 9/6/2018 7:37:05 PM EDT
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As much as I shun collecting, I need magazines for my rifle. Bought a couple the other day and was pleasantly surprised to see Costa Mesa on bottom of both magazines.
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Posted: 9/20/2018 9:07:06 AM EDT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwjx7NA1HQs
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Posted: 9/20/2018 10:01:49 AM EDT
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Friend loaned me a couple barrels to check gas block locations. We're getting there.
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Posted: 9/25/2018 5:26:36 AM EDT
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Are the bulk of your barrels being done in 1:12"? Any other twist rates being contemplated?
Watching this thread, viewing the photos and the reference material, I marvel at Mr. Stoners ability to synthesize that which came before him and reshape into something new and marvelous. I see the progression through the AR-15 and the AR-18 reflected in this rifle along with the build processes pioneered by Germany, England and the US (steel stamping and welding), like the MP40, the Sten and the M3A1 Grease gun. The MG42 may be a better analogy, as the square section, full body of the firearm is closer in comparison to the Stoner receiver section. While I know the following statement is not 100% true, this rifle is about as close to being "All things to all people" as a rifle can be. Maybe I should say, it is ABOUT all things to me! Because it has rested in the unobtanium category of collecting for me, I have made myself content with such things as original AR-180s, retro build XM-177's and semi auto Bren guns. But if I thought I could obtain one of these Stoner 66 or 63A's, I would dump all these predecessors in order to obtain one. This thread has given me hope that this may occur one day. Thank you Waffen. |
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Posted: 9/25/2018 10:08:38 AM EDT
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Thanks for the kind words. If a large company like MKE were to get involved in this, the rifles could be a $2500 gun. Knight's has the ability, but I think it would run a bit more (based on what they sell their AR platforms for). Our loosely knit consortium is picking up some steam, but for everyone involved, it's just a hobby and it's not moving as quickly as we would like.
As far as barrel twists, they are all 1/7 and chambered in 5.56mm. It is a fascinating system and had it been able to develop like the M16 over the last 50 plus years, who knows what it might be today. It isn't without flaws. The pins drive me nuts. There are some tiny and fragile parts. I know I never want to build one the way I did this one again. All that said, if I only had one gun, this would be it. |
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