Since the highly regarded Braceman is no longer engraving 80% receivers, is there anybody else doing this type of work that equals Braceman's previous work?

Thank you!!

Orion arms

Ryan is top notch and the communication threw the whole process was outstanding I never waited more then 24 hours for a response from him. Check out his website for his work, he has a link titled reproductions that has alot of the retro work he does

Does not look like they do the pony logo, or will they upon request.

Tag of info.

No he does not do the pony logo because of legal copyright issues

Randy Spade can provide any markings on an 80% lower. Here is the FN he did for me. He'll sell you one with the markings you want or he can engrave your 80% so long it's still only 80%. He is a good guy who does great work.
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Do you have Randy's contact information?

Sure, here it is: [email protected]

That is part of the engraving on these replica rifles most people here are looking for, & I doubt anybody is trying to pass them off as a Colt. Any engraver can put "Property of US Govt." on a lower.

I’m baffled by that logic.

I don’t think anybody is trying to pass something of as something it’s not. People are trying to do the most accurate clone they can do and that’s why they spend money for correct retro parts, do 80%ers, have lowers reprofiled tin A1 spec etc.

The engraving is somewhat key to many and it’s a shame as it’s not like Colt is being harmed by somebody engraving their logo on a receiver. They don’t offer what people are asking for and it’s not like anybody is going to think your 80% receiver is the illusive semi auto only XM16E1 or something.

I hate to side with the lawyers, but I would say that Colt could actually make a legitimate argument that people engraving 80% lowers with their logo are impacting their business, even if only in a small way. The direct example is the new LE6920 SOCOM rifle that’s marked “PROPERTY OF US GOVT” with the correct Colt logo and M4A1 model designation. However, prior to that, people who wanted to clone an M4A1 would just buy a regular SOCOM model and live with the incorrect markings, or they could have an 80% lower engraved - meaning they weren’t buying a Colt rifle or lower as a starting point. Going back further, before 80% lowers were a thing, how were people cloning retro rifles? I would guess they were buying Colt lowers in many cases, so they could have a Colt, even if it wasn’t marked correct. Colt could probably make a decent argument that people who would have otherwise bought a Colt lower for their build are having 80% lowers engraved instead. It may not be serious harm to Colt’s business, but it could legally be financial harm, nonetheless.

I’ve been wondering if maybe Braceman was threatened with legal action in some way, which might have led to him getting out of the engraving business. I think the 80% clone engravings look fantastic, but I can also see why manufacturers might not take kindly to it.

mpdphil,

Thanks for the info!!

Lawyers love "Cease & Desist" letters.  You can engrave anything you want for personal use, but as soon as you offer a service for others, than you ARE infringing on the copyright holder, IF they want to push the point.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Retro-Colt-Rollmarks/123-725145/

Can anyone recommend someone for Diemaco C7 clone?  Bummed to hear Braceman no longer doing them....his C7 clone work was on point

Any reason why he stopped?

Curious as well.

Has anyone been in contact with Randy at Vader Tactical lately.  I set him an email about 10 days ago with no reply.

I'm here working away. I have had a few people say they have sent email that I didn't get but every test I have tried comes through just fine. I'm not sure what's up but clearly some emails are not getting through???

If [email protected] doesn't work try [email protected]

Sorry for any inconvenience.

No worries.  I just sent one to the hotmail address.

Colt should sell 80% lowers....  might get them out of chapter 11... lol

@bergunx

Joe at Industrial Engraving Inc did this one for my Colt Commando. Great guy, diligent in his communication and professionalism.

Here is a link to their website. This link is on the Nodak Spud website.

Retro engraving



Edit: they are a FFL too. This was a stripped lower, not an 80%. I have an email in to him right now asking about Colt engraving on a 9mm DOE replica I am collecting parts for.