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Posted: 5/25/2022 3:41:27 PM EDT
Can someone direct me where to fine a rra le entry stock new or used.
Thank you!
Link Posted: 5/25/2022 3:56:48 PM EDT
[#1]
I think they discontinued them years ago.
Link Posted: 5/25/2022 4:14:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GIJOHN:
Can someone direct me where to fine a rra le entry stock new or used.
Thank you!
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Back in 2001



Surf the EE, I kind of looked around for them for you as well but I got nothing.
Link Posted: 5/25/2022 5:13:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Machobuck] [#3]
Check your local gun forums and listings. I recently found one for $50 shipped.
Link Posted: 5/25/2022 5:48:39 PM EDT
[#4]
Model 1 Sales is the only place still making them that I know of.

Here
Link Posted: 5/25/2022 5:57:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 00sdime00:
Model 1 Sales is the only place still making them that I know of.

Here
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I believe those are out of stock. At least, they were last week when someone on GAFS purchased one and reported back that their order was canceled.

There are people willing to pay $300 for one of these RRA Entry Stocks on GAFS(Gun Accessories for Sale) on Reddit, so if you've got one laying around that you don't need, go cash out.
Link Posted: 5/25/2022 7:20:29 PM EDT
[#6]
Yup, Model 1 has been OOS forever now - I tried last year or maybe the year before. Leapers made a clone, also out of production. There are some Airsoft clones, but 1) Airsoft durability/quality and 2) how much work to make it fit an actual AR buffer tube?

Entry stock buffer tubes are all over the place, though, because there's other stocks that use 'em.

If you're comfortable mutilating a standard rifle stock, you *should* be able to chop one back and modify the buttplate; I don't know if a trapdoor stock would work, but Numrich has cheap beater Type D's available. (I actually bought a couple, one for entry and on3e for homebrewing a 607. More things on the "to do at some point" pile.)
Link Posted: 5/25/2022 8:48:47 PM EDT
[#7]
Thank you all for the input going to try ygolonac’s
idea chopping a2 stock.
Link Posted: 5/26/2022 1:11:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ygolonac:
Entry stock buffer tubes are all over the place, though, because there's other stocks that use 'em.

If you're comfortable mutilating a standard rifle stock, you *should* be able to chop one back and modify the buttplate; I don't know if a trapdoor stock would work, but Numrich has cheap beater Type D's available. (I actually bought a couple, one for entry and on3e for homebrewing a 607. More things on the "to do at some point" pile.)
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/\ This.  I have the same "to do at some point" pile.  Have had a busted up Type D stock for at least 10 yrs.  Finally found a deal on a buffer tube and carbine spring last year. Just need a carbine buffer and some time.
Link Posted: 5/26/2022 4:29:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Machobuck:


I believe those are out of stock. At least, they were last week when someone on GAFS purchased one and reported back that their order was canceled.

There are people willing to pay $300 for one of these RRA Entry Stocks on GAFS(Gun Accessories for Sale) on Reddit, so if you've got one laying around that you don't need, go cash out.
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So the fifty that I just reaped was inadvertently generous

Link Posted: 5/26/2022 8:29:20 PM EDT
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I never realized those were out of production.

Anyone think there would be interest in a 3d printed version?

I could model one up the uses a standard butt plate and a shorty buffer tube. I did one similar to that when I was initially working on a BRN-180 butt stock.

It turned out like a Sully stock so I didn't pursue it any further.



Link Posted: 5/26/2022 10:04:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigRix:
I never realized those were out of production.

Anyone think there would be interest in a 3d printed version?

I could model one up the uses a standard butt plate and a shorty buffer tube. I did one similar to that when I was initially working on a BRN-180 butt stock.

It turned out like a Sully stock so I didn't pursue it any further.

https://ar180parts.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Untitled.jpg

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You could post up on r/RetroAR as well to gauge interest. Some of those folks on there got no patience whatsoever, so they would probably bite.

Hell, I likely would because that means less work for me.
Link Posted: 5/26/2022 10:13:13 PM EDT
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Thanks OP for reminding me I have one stashed.  Good luck on your search.

Try posting a WTB.
Link Posted: 6/5/2022 10:42:18 AM EDT
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I had an entry stock back in the day and found it to be too short. I designed this one to use an A2 spacer so it is at least 5/8" longer.

First prototype so the print isn't as clean as it could be and it has a layer shift.. Uses an A2 sling swivel and screw (everyone is out of stock on the screw) and should be able to use an A1 or A2 butt plate.

It even has room for your Skittles inside.

I call it The Entrée Stock





What do you guys think?
Link Posted: 6/5/2022 5:35:23 PM EDT
[#14]
i think its neato
Link Posted: 6/5/2022 6:15:20 PM EDT
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Model 1 had some green ones at the last Tulsa gun show. They weren’t cheap but also not $300.
Link Posted: 6/5/2022 11:56:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigRix:
I had an entry stock back in the day and found it to be too short. I designed this one to use an A2 spacer so it is at least 5/8" longer.

First prototype so the print isn't as clean as it could be and it has a layer shift.. Uses an A2 sling swivel and screw (everyone is out of stock on the screw) and should be able to use an A1 or A2 butt plate.

It even has room for your Skittles inside.

I call it The Entrée Stock

https://ar180parts.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/98CFF443-12EE-4D19-88A5-9544BC9F8966-scaled.jpeg

https://ar180parts.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/E6B1BC55-ADEA-4630-BE93-4EB1D7B1FB34-scaled.jpeg

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I think it's awesome.
Link Posted: 6/6/2022 11:38:36 PM EDT
[#17]
That's very cool
Link Posted: 6/10/2022 10:03:54 PM EDT
[#18]
Well ironically I was at a gun show today and picked up 2 of them thanks to this thread. Off to go check Reddit to see if I can sell them for crazy money I guess?
Link Posted: 6/14/2022 2:47:01 AM EDT
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i have buffer tubes for em if needed but ill need specs to check and verify correct length before i ship. also have type d colt m16a1 stocks in bulk and some are chipped at front ready to be cut down if that helps.
Link Posted: 6/14/2022 10:17:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigRix:
I had an entry stock back in the day and found it to be too short. I designed this one to use an A2 spacer so it is at least 5/8" longer.

First prototype so the print isn't as clean as it could be and it has a layer shift.. Uses an A2 sling swivel and screw (everyone is out of stock on the screw) and should be able to use an A1 or A2 butt plate.

It even has room for your Skittles inside.

I call it The Entrée Stock

https://ar180parts.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/98CFF443-12EE-4D19-88A5-9544BC9F8966-scaled.jpeg

https://ar180parts.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/E6B1BC55-ADEA-4630-BE93-4EB1D7B1FB34-scaled.jpeg

What do you guys think?
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How much shorter is it compared to an a1?
Link Posted: 6/14/2022 1:01:16 PM EDT
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It is about 2 inches shorter than an A1. 5/8" longer than an RRA Entry Stock.



Left to right, A2, A1, My version.

Those that are looking to shorten an existing stock, you will need to make a butt plate from scratch. Due to the taper, the more you cut the shorter the butt plate gets.



Link Posted: 6/14/2022 1:16:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigRix:
I never realized those were out of production.

Anyone think there would be interest in a 3d printed version?

I could model one up the uses a standard butt plate and a shorty buffer tube. I did one similar to that when I was initially working on a BRN-180 butt stock.

It turned out like a Sully stock so I didn't pursue it any further.

https://ar180parts.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Untitled.jpg

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If it was done in a durable material like CF filament I could see a market for it. Would it be able to be sanded (by end user) to make it smooth?
Link Posted: 6/14/2022 1:17:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigRix:
It is about 2 inches shorter than an A1. 5/8" longer than an RRA Entry Stock.

https://ar180parts.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/A491966F-99CB-4AAD-8C32-015CC37A395E-scaled.jpeg

Left to right, A2, A1, My version.

Those that are looking to shorten an existing stock, you will need to make a butt plate from scratch. Due to the taper, the more you cut the shorter the butt plate gets.

https://ar180parts.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/447D1770-A72A-4A73-9D87-D38000F2E91E-scaled.jpeg

https://ar180parts.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/76F905A7-9217-457F-913A-308265D74D0C-scaled.jpeg
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Normal rifle buffer tube, or carbine tube? Or in the middle?
Link Posted: 6/14/2022 1:21:59 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/14/2022 1:23:15 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/14/2022 1:37:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gf113:


Normal rifle buffer tube, or carbine tube? Or in the middle?
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Doublestar Shorty A2 tube. Just like the RRA Entry stock. Looks like everyone is out of stock on the tubes :(



My designs use an A2 spacer as well.

My understanding is the Sully stock used two spacers and an extra long screw. At least that is my recollection.
Link Posted: 6/14/2022 5:32:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigRix:


Doublestar Shorty A2 tube. Just like the RRA Entry stock. Looks like everyone is out of stock on the tubes :(

https://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/0423dea8e9791990cba1722182d60508/8/0/800945-Doublestar_Corp_A2_Shorty_Entry_Length_Buffer_Tube_BLK_Fits_ARFX-E_an_ARFX-ULE_AR381.jpg

My designs use an A2 spacer as well.

My understanding is the Sully stock used two spacers and an extra long screw. At least that is my recollection.
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CTD had one the other day.

Which I bought.

Theoretically, one could take a pistol stock (no adjustment track on the bottom) and braze on the appropriate-size nut to the end...

Right now, I'm very carefully prying the original (surface-cracked) rubber buttplate from one of my Type D's, so I can get a look inside the stock itself, and see how the rubber fits a stock, uhm, stock. Once I have the tube and can play a little, I can chop the back off with some extra material for fitting, and figure how best to grind on the pad to fit.

Don't know that I'm going to screw around with remounting the (terribly rusty and barely-moving) swivel, I'll have to figure that out before epoxying the pad in place.

Link Posted: 6/15/2022 2:12:22 AM EDT
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I run a Sully stock on my sp1 rifle. Great for nose to charging handle length.  I am planning to put an Acog TA44 on the charging handle because the stock helps with eye relief.

I haven’t purchased one in a while, but the tube was included. I don’t recall any spacers.
Link Posted: 6/15/2022 2:56:16 AM EDT
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Dang, now I gotta look thru my parts bin, cause I think I have one floating around.
Link Posted: 6/15/2022 10:46:35 PM EDT
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Dang, now I gotta look thru my parts bin, cause I think I have one floating around.
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Hey Will

Link Posted: 6/15/2022 11:01:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigRix:
I had an entry stock back in the day and found it to be too short. I designed this one to use an A2 spacer so it is at least 5/8" longer.

First prototype so the print isn't as clean as it could be and it has a layer shift.. Uses an A2 sling swivel and screw (everyone is out of stock on the screw) and should be able to use an A1 or A2 butt plate.

It even has room for your Skittles inside.

I call it The Entre Stock

https://ar180parts.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/98CFF443-12EE-4D19-88A5-9544BC9F8966-scaled.jpeg

https://ar180parts.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/E6B1BC55-ADEA-4630-BE93-4EB1D7B1FB34-scaled.jpeg

What do you guys think?
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thats fucking badass. I have a RRA stock and its too short.
Link Posted: 6/16/2022 1:55:33 AM EDT
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Got the entry stock tube in today, and that's a shorti boi all right - eyeballing it vs. a stock carbine tube, it's just a hair longer (maybe 1/8"?) than the carbine, measured to the back of the tube. (Add a bit more for the "nut" on the entry tube.) Halfassed mocking-up is just about literally nose-to-charging handle, which is giving me *ideas* of a 607-based build... not a working adjustable stock (at this time), however.

That will have to wait until I have a couple more receiver sets, however.
Link Posted: 6/16/2022 3:05:55 AM EDT
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The last place I knew of that had any in stock was PK firearms. That was last year, so they likely dried up once the word got out.
Link Posted: 6/16/2022 4:13:26 PM EDT
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Hey Will

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Dan, you looking for one too?  If I find it, you can have it.
Link Posted: 6/16/2022 10:05:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MisterPX:


Dan, you looking for one too?  If I find it, you can have it.
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Originally Posted By MisterPX:
Originally Posted By 4weelin:



Hey Will



Dan, you looking for one too?  If I find it, you can have it.


Not looking. I have a few extra Sully stocks to play with already. Thanks for the offer.

Just wanted to say Hi
Link Posted: 6/17/2022 10:16:49 AM EDT
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@BigRix

Would you beable to make your stock that takes a carbine buffer tube instead?
Link Posted: 6/17/2022 10:39:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By gf113:
@BigRix

Would you beable to make your stock that takes a carbine buffer tube instead?
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I'm trying to think up a suitable way to attach a stock to a carbine tube.

If you are considering welding a threaded section or nut to the rear then shortening and welding a standard rifle length tube together would be a better option.

A hidden latch mechanism might be doable but would be difficult to implement.

I'm open to ideas but I think the shorty A2 tube is the best one even though they are out of stock right now.

Isn't everything?
Link Posted: 6/17/2022 1:02:11 PM EDT
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An old (archived?) Arfcom thread detailed someone's attempt to make an adjustable rifle stock like a 607, with a carbine tube and a cut-down carbine latch mounted internally, and rigged for the sling swivel to disengage the latch for adjustment. Thought it looked a bit bastardy to do, internal to the stock body, myself.

I only found it once, via Google, and didn't think to bookmark it because I was looking for other stuff at the time. Anyone else remember this?
Link Posted: 6/17/2022 1:32:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigRix:


I'm trying to think up a suitable way to attach a stock to a carbine tube.

If you are considering welding a threaded section or nut to the rear then shortening and welding a standard rifle length tube together would be a better option.

A hidden latch mechanism might be doable but would be difficult to implement.

I'm open to ideas but I think the shorty A2 tube is the best one even though they are out of stock right now.

Isn't everything?
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The numbers I could find are that the "shorty a2" tube is 7.47in, with the spacer that's 8.095. A caribe buffer is 7.25, so you'd need a 0.845 spacer.

Just wondering if making the stock to use the carbine tube would (no end plate though) would maje it more accessible. Perhaps just model with the spacers and use a longer screw?
Link Posted: 6/17/2022 1:46:03 PM EDT
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I had one sitting on the pile for the longest time, but just used it in my Mini-A1 build (teardrop FA and A1 grip being delivered tomorrow....then need to decide if I want to SBR).

Link Posted: 6/22/2022 11:50:54 PM EDT
[#41]
M&A Parts used to carry them, but my guess is all of their odd stuff like that was cleared from their inventory back in 2013.

Pete in NH used to stock that type of stuff.  He used to advertise in EE
Link Posted: 7/29/2022 2:59:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/1/2022 12:38:46 PM EDT
[#43]
Those stocks are perfect for a mini midi build.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 1:24:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Moondog:
M&A Parts used to carry them, but my guess is all of their odd stuff like that was cleared from their inventory back in 2013.

Pete in NH used to stock that type of stuff.  He used to advertise in EE
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Omg, that's a name from the past... I used to get my RRA 2 stage NM triggers from Pete back when they were the new hotness.
Link Posted: 8/3/2022 7:02:09 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/3/2022 10:06:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/4/2022 12:58:42 PM EDT
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Couple offerings currently in the EE.

Prices are through the roof.
Link Posted: 8/8/2022 12:31:51 PM EDT
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Dang- sold mine for like $20 in 2004 when the ban ended.  

Not a fan at the time, just better than A2 length....
Link Posted: 8/8/2022 3:08:01 PM EDT
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