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Posted: 7/16/2018 7:32:03 AM EDT
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I like the Eotech reticle.
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Posted: 7/16/2018 7:52:18 AM EDT
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low-powered optics with etched lenses seem to solve this issue with most
as always, it's best to try it out before you buy it. some manufacturers state claims of daylight-bright reticles when it's simply not so if you can only check it indoors, aim it at, or near, a bright light to check it. but I'd still want to check it outdoors in full sunlight |
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Posted: 7/16/2018 7:59:08 AM EDT
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I have a bad astigmatism and bad eyes generally. The aimpoint T2 didn't work out for me. The dot was more of a comet. That really sucked as I loved the sight otherwise.
Im looking at the mini acogs but can't get over the price tag for a 1.5 optic. |
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Posted: 7/16/2018 8:09:40 AM EDT
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They all look like shit to me. I just use an Aimpoint and aim with the blob. I use a scope for everything but HD.
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Posted: 7/16/2018 8:35:07 AM EDT
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Just a personal observation from an astig guy w/corr lenses.
Like samuse, my RDS is for closer-in stuff & the gun is dedicated to that role. Put dot on meat, press trigger. Corrective or not, every layer between the eye & the real world adds a level of distortion. Some people are reluctant to move the RDS from anywhere other than as far forward as possible because "OMG, field of view, situational awareness, what will the internet think?!!!" Depending on the dot, sometimes it can be moved rearward a bit, a slot or 3, & the dot itself will resolve as a bit more defined. Just experiment & train with it. |
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Posted: 7/16/2018 8:39:41 AM EDT
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What about other trijicons like mro, reflex etc?
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Posted: 7/16/2018 9:01:59 AM EDT
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What about other trijicons like mro, reflex etc? however, the Reflex has an illuminated reticle, just like your TA44. I think it's a great choice for anyone in your shoes for recreational shooting if you're hesitant about being able to use it in the dark, don't be. most models use both ambient light and tritium to illuminate the reticle |
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Posted: 7/16/2018 9:25:29 AM EDT
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Just a personal observation from an astig guy w/corr lenses. Like samuse, my RDS is for closer-in stuff & the gun is dedicated to that role. Put dot on meat, press trigger. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Just a personal observation from an astig guy w/corr lenses. Like samuse, my RDS is for closer-in stuff & the gun is dedicated to that role. Put dot on meat, press trigger. The sparc is mounted on a PCC and tried to get used to the issue since most of the shooting is done at max 25m. The issue became frustrating this weekend when I tried some 100m hits.. Depending on the dot, sometimes it can be moved rearward a bit, a slot or 3, & the dot itself will resolve as a bit more defined. Just experiment & train with it. |
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Posted: 7/16/2018 9:53:05 AM EDT
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I would go with a 1x Prism style scope like the new Primary Arms Cyclops http://www.primaryarms.com/pa-1x-compact-prism-scope-with-acss-cyclops-reticle-black . Has their very good ACSS retiicle and no issues with a blurry dot. Vortex also makes a version, but the PA would be my pick based off of their other offerings and reputation
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Posted: 7/16/2018 9:53:34 AM EDT
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Try a 1x prism sight. I looked through a Vortex Spitfire and I'm putting that on my AR pistol. Extremely clear and my eyes aren't worth a shit.
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Posted: 7/16/2018 11:26:23 AM EDT
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I have afriend with a Trijicon reflex... I'll take a look at it...
is the PA Cyclops out already? I could move the TA44 from the AR to the PCC and the Cyclops with the acss reticle looks like a good sight for the AR... |
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Posted: 7/16/2018 12:35:15 PM EDT
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I have a bad astigmatism and shitty eyesight, all red dots turn into comets.
I don't get why people get into a fuss about it. Red dots aren't' meant for target shooting, they're meant for 100meters and in and being able to quickly shoot at a target. By that standard, they're easily the best and any comet or problems caused by an astigmatism are negligible. If you are target shooting, an Eotech would be better than an Aimpoint or similar style red dot. The 1 moa dot on an Eotech is superior for this |
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Posted: 7/16/2018 12:55:19 PM EDT
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If you are target shooting, an Eotech would be better than an Aimpoint or similar style red dot. The 1 moa dot on an Eotech is superior for this |
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Posted: 7/16/2018 2:11:11 PM EDT
[#14]
My experience is go with the smallest dot. Further, some dots which seem great when outdoors in bright sunlight can be horrible indoors or darken areas. Try before you buy.
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Posted: 7/16/2018 2:26:06 PM EDT
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The solution is not to spend money on a new 1x optic, but to spend money on a non LASIK corrective laser sugery (PRK, LASEK, etc.) Then your dot sights work, your irons become twice as accurate, your scopes, spotters, and binoculars all look like you upgraded to higher end glass. It is the best money you will ever spend on optics. You also never need to buy new glasses, contacts, pay for doctor's visits, etc. The single biggest improvement to my shooting of any purchase, ever.
Ghetto solution... shoot whole looking through your rear ghost ring, but no front. Dot crisps right up. |
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Posted: 7/16/2018 3:37:37 PM EDT
[#16]
^^^
Well I guess you’re right.. btw laser surgery is on my to do list 
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Posted: 7/17/2018 6:16:08 PM EDT
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The solution is not to spend money on a new 1x optic, but to spend money on a non LASIK corrective laser sugery (PRK, LASEK, etc.) Then your dot sights work, your irons become twice as accurate, your scopes, spotters, and binoculars all look like you upgraded to higher end glass. It is the best money you will ever spend on optics. You also never need to buy new glasses, contacts, pay for doctor's visits, etc. The single biggest improvement to my shooting of any purchase, ever. Ghetto solution... shoot whole looking through your rear ghost ring, but no front. Dot crisps right up. I'm too blind for that solution, I can't see any faces without glasses. My favorite part of the day is when I wake up and I can't find my glasses on my nightstand and spend 15 minutes looking for it. |
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Posted: 7/17/2018 6:33:32 PM EDT
[#18]
Meprolights Tru Dot works great for me. Just about every other RDS Star bursts some for me.
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Posted: 7/17/2018 7:49:21 PM EDT
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EOTechs or the new vortex UH6 are holographic, so they have almkst no bloom. All other red dots are projected, so they splay more. Illuminated etched reticles are good too.
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Posted: 7/17/2018 9:26:13 PM EDT
[#20]
I have a bad astigmatism and bad eyesight as well. Do you guys not wear glasses? With my glasses I see no difference in any dot. no flare, no blob.
I use Eotech because I like them. My AP dot is too hard to pick up quickly but I still shoot ok. |
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Posted: 7/17/2018 9:39:06 PM EDT
[#21]
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I have a bad astigmatism and bad eyesight as well. Do you guys not wear glasses? With my glasses I see no difference in any dot. no flare, no blob. I use Eotech because I like them. My AP dot is too hard to pick up quickly but I still shoot ok. |
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Posted: 7/17/2018 11:01:28 PM EDT
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For me any standard red dot sight, whether low quality or high quality, the reticle has some spider legs for me. I only notice it in darker lighting conditions though, never during daylight.
Etched reticles / prism sights are helpful for this. |
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Posted: 7/18/2018 7:33:40 PM EDT
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With my slight astigmatism I find the newest Aimpoints, Holographic sights and ElCAN's work the best with the least distortion.
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Posted: 7/19/2018 9:39:02 AM EDT
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My experience with true RDS is limited to the Vortex Sparc2 but due to my bad eyes it doesnt work for me... the fact the dot is not well defined is distracting while shooting... I also have an old TA44 with the 6moa Dot and that works perfectly. what other options are out there, beside Trijicon, for people with astigmatism? Will higher quality RDS such as Aimpoint work? Thanks First I bought a Vortex Spitfire prism scope with red & green dots. The green dot works pretty well. I have since discovered Primary Arms has traditional scopes, ACOG scopes, prism scopes, all with green illumination and ACSS reticles. They work great for me. Selection comes in a wide variety of performance options and prices. |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 10:20:27 AM EDT
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I have afriend with a Trijicon reflex... I'll take a look at it... is the PA Cyclops out already? I could move the TA44 from the AR to the PCC and the Cyclops with the acss reticle looks like a good sight for the AR... |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 11:47:02 AM EDT
[#26]
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I have a bad astigmatism and bad eyesight as well. Do you guys not wear glasses? With my glasses I see no difference in any dot. no flare, no blob. I use Eotech because I like them. My AP dot is too hard to pick up quickly but I still shoot ok. Without my glasses, most dots become blobs. With my glasses, they look clear & precise. EOTechs seem to look better to my eyes than the "tube" dots like Aimpoint & PA Micros. I will most likely be purchasing a 1x prism sight like the Cyclops later this year for my 11.5" pistol, and attaching my Streamlight TLR to it. Depending on how I like the setup after some training, I hope it will be my HD gun. Until then, the TLR resides on my Beretta 92G Vertec. |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 2:52:45 PM EDT
[#27]
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I have a bad astigmatism and shitty eyesight, all red dots turn into comets. I don't get why people get into a fuss about it. Red dots aren't' meant for target shooting, they're meant for 100meters and in and being able to quickly shoot at a target. By that standard, they're easily the best and any comet or problems caused by an astigmatism are negligible. If you are target shooting, an Eotech would be better than an Aimpoint or similar style red dot. The 1 moa dot on an Eotech is superior for this |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 6:31:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With the right brightness setting, I can use the top of the dot to act as my aiming point like someone would use the top of the post of a front sight. I can get decent grouping with my Vortex Strikefire. Not quite scope quality, but it's an effective work around. Quote HistoryQuoted: With the right brightness setting, I can use the top of the dot to act as my aiming point like someone would use the top of the post of a front sight. I can get decent grouping with my Vortex Strikefire. Not quite scope quality, but it's an effective work around. Aimpoint advertises their red dots for combat, home defense, and hunting and it works well for all of those as you aren't trying to make tiny groups. Quoted: This. Without my glasses, most dots become blobs. With my glasses, they look clear & precise. EOTechs seem to look better to my eyes than the "tube" dots like Aimpoint & PA Micros. I will most likely be purchasing a 1x prism sight like the Cyclops later this year for my 11.5" pistol, and attaching my Streamlight TLR to it. Depending on how I like the setup after some training, I hope it will be my HD gun. Until then, the TLR resides on my Beretta 92G Vertec. |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 7:18:45 PM EDT
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Meprolights Tru Dot works great for me. Just about every other RDS Star bursts some for me. |
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Posted: 7/19/2018 7:22:26 PM EDT
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for me, the higher the power, the larger the bloom/halo. lower illumination power makes them work for me but they will never be my favorite
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Posted: 7/20/2018 2:11:50 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ghetto solution... shoot whole looking through your rear ghost ring, but no front. Dot crisps right up. I used to shoot pistol through an aperture mounted on my glasses to sharpen my view of the sights. |
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Posted: 7/20/2018 6:48:56 PM EDT
[#32]
I also have astigmatism, and use corrective contacts. One thing I've found that helps is to lower the brightness till you barely see it. Yea kind of defeats the purpose, and makes it harder to pickup on. But even if it starbursts, it's still usable, just not for tight groups. I do have a bushnell 1-4x illuminated reticle that works much better with my eyes. But it's heavy, and the illumination isn't daylight bright in Vegas sun.
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Posted: 7/23/2018 9:22:35 AM EDT
[#33]
Trijicon RMR has been the best for me as far as a red dot.
However I've switched over to either LPVO or ACOGs. |
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Posted: 7/23/2018 7:12:10 PM EDT
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Vortex Spitfire is my favourite. That etched reticle is much clearer than a projected red dot when you have a slight astigmatism, and has the added advantage of still being there when the battery runs out.
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Posted: 7/24/2018 10:25:37 AM EDT
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Absolute co-witness with Aimpoint T2 and Magpul MBUS Pro is what I finally decided on, no "bloom" with brightness around 8 or 9. Try it without the backup sights you might be surprised with what you see.
Also, with my Glocks went with Trijicons and also have the brightness turned down as well. Works great for me. |
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Posted: 7/24/2018 10:58:29 AM EDT
[#36]
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They all look like shit to me. I just use an Aimpoint and aim with the blob. I use a scope for everything but HD. |
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Posted: 7/27/2018 9:45:40 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Without my glasses, most dots become blobs. With my glasses, they look clear & precise. EOTechs seem to look better to my eyes than the "tube" dots like Aimpoint & PA Micros. I will most likely be purchasing a 1x prism sight like the Cyclops later this year for my 11.5" pistol, and attaching my Streamlight TLR to it. Depending on how I like the setup after some training, I hope it will be my HD gun. Until then, the TLR resides on my Beretta 92G Vertec. I wear corrective contacts for my astigmatism and I still feel like the circle and dot are very fuzzy. How do I tell if the reticle itself is defective or if it’s just my eyes??? |
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Posted: 7/30/2018 10:52:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just got my first EoTech...it’s the 2-0 and I also have an astigmatism. I wear corrective contacts for my astigmatism and I still feel like the circle and dot are very fuzzy. How do I tell if the reticle itself is defective or if it’s just my eyes??? I wear glasses that are supposed to correct for my astigmatism, but they only do so much. With a 2 MOA red dot I see a "comet" with the tail trailing off to the 5 o'clock position, no matter how the scope is oriented. If I hold the scope totally upside down with the mount pointing towards the sky, the comet tail still trails off to the 5 o'clock position, because the flaw is in my eye. It's no big deal and I've shot with red dots for many years. However, without my glasses the red dot is pretty much completely useless, so the glasses DO work-- to a certain extent. |
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Posted: 8/1/2018 9:17:08 AM EDT
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I am lucky, with my astigmatism I see a starburst. I went to a RDS on my SBR until I can try a cyclops from Primary Arms.
My other rifles I went with Steiner 1-4 P4XI. Daylight bright...can still use as a close quarters b it t reach out to a couple hundred yards with no issue. Ever want to see what normal eyes see, take a picture through your optic with a cell phone...that was frustrating to see this beautiful round crisp dot in my Aimpoint Pro. |
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