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Posted: 9/2/2023 1:39:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: OlympicArmsFan]
I have been debating buying a Primary Arms SLx 1x micro prism for a little while now and I think the one thing that is holding me back is the big knob on the side of it for illumination of the reticle. Makes no sense to have a big knob like that when most optics are going to buttons. I have a lot of optics with buttons on the side and back of them and no issues of hitting them and causing a problem.

Who thinks that it's time to do a Gen III and eliminate those knobs?

I want to put one on my A2 AR-15, AK-47, Mossberg 930 and maybe my Mossberg 500, but I just can't get over that big knob on the side of it. I know shooting with both eyes open that I shouldn't see it, but come on, its right there! @PrimaryArms is there a chance that this could be in the works? A micro prism without that knob?

I will admit that this optic is a home run, but if that knob was not there, it would be a bases loaded home run all day long.
Hydra
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 2:41:52 PM EST
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The knob shadows out. I was worried about it before I got one but it’s really a non issue.

That said, they need an integrated red dot mount. Easier illumination adjustment wouldn’t be a bad idea either.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 6:22:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: kwb377] [#2]
The illumination knob is also where the battery resides...if they added buttons for illumination there would still be a protuberance somewhere on the optic for the battery. If they added a battery tray underneath, that would likely interfere with the ACOG-style mounting they use.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 7:12:45 PM EST
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I didn't think about the battery. Maybe a smaller battery tray somewhere. I actually wouldn't mind the knob on the top of the optic like the Trijicon MRO.
Link Posted: 9/2/2023 7:35:04 PM EST
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I prefer knobs over buttons all day and every day.  I also hate touch screen controls in cars.  
Link Posted: 9/9/2023 2:51:37 PM EST
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I'd like to see it have a T2 footprint.
Link Posted: 9/9/2023 3:36:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SCR556:
I'd like to see it have a T2 footprint.
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This is part of what's wrong with the spitfire imo. The mini acog footprint has way more available options for cantilever and QD. What does the t2 footprint do that the mini acog footprint doesn't do for you?
Link Posted: 9/9/2023 7:03:03 PM EST
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This is part of what's wrong with the spitfire imo. The mini acog footprint has way more available options for cantilever and QD. What does the t2 footprint do that the mini acog footprint doesn't do for you?
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I agree with this. Prisms need a pattern made for correct eye relief. The only cantilever mount I could find for the T2 was some wish.com contraption.
Link Posted: 9/10/2023 12:47:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By NewWind:
What does the t2 footprint do that the mini acog footprint doesn't do for you?
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Offer another option other than mini Acog mounts.

The next gen should effectively be a red dot sight with an etched reticle and adjustable diapter.
Link Posted: 9/10/2023 3:38:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SCR556:

Offer another option other than mini Acog mounts.

The next gen should effectively be a red dot sight with an etched reticle and adjustable diapter.
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"offering another option"  than mini acog mounts doesn't mean anything, the mini acog mounts do everything (and more) than a t2 footprint, unless your plan is to use the hydra mounts. I think that's the ONLY thing t2 has that the mini acog footprint doesn't- raising the optical centerline to 2.91".
Link Posted: 9/10/2023 4:17:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By SCR556:

Offer another option other than mini Acog mounts.

The next gen should effectively be a red dot sight with an etched reticle and adjustable diapter.
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https://www.swampfoxoptics.com/raider-1x20-micro-prism
Link Posted: 9/12/2023 10:49:48 AM EST
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Just have no shit NV usable glass and settings.
Link Posted: 9/12/2023 11:04:34 AM EST
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Originally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony:

https://www.swampfoxoptics.com/raider-1x20-micro-prism
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Zinc alloy body? Someone explain if this is junk or good
Link Posted: 9/12/2023 11:32:37 AM EST
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Zinc alloy body? Someone explain if this is junk or good
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Originally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony:

https://www.swampfoxoptics.com/raider-1x20-micro-prism


Zinc alloy body? Someone explain if this is junk or good


Depending on the zinc alloy the durability can be pretty good. The downside is that it will be heavier than an aluminum body.

Seems kinda vague. Technically doesn't 7075 aluminum use zinc as an alloying agent?
Link Posted: 9/12/2023 12:51:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony:

https://www.swampfoxoptics.com/raider-1x20-micro-prism
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6 moa dot?  That is just stupid.
Link Posted: 9/13/2023 1:30:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By NewWind:

"offering another option"  than mini acog mounts doesn't mean anything, the mini acog mounts do everything (and more) than a t2 footprint, unless your plan is to use the hydra mounts. I think that's the ONLY thing t2 has that the mini acog footprint doesn't- raising the optical centerline to 2.91".
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Originally Posted By NewWind:
Originally Posted By SCR556:

Offer another option other than mini Acog mounts.

The next gen should effectively be a red dot sight with an etched reticle and adjustable diapter.

"offering another option"  than mini acog mounts doesn't mean anything, the mini acog mounts do everything (and more) than a t2 footprint, unless your plan is to use the hydra mounts. I think that's the ONLY thing t2 has that the mini acog footprint doesn't- raising the optical centerline to 2.91".


Or a aridus mount for a shotgun
Link Posted: 9/13/2023 1:34:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By s4s4u:


6 moa dot?  That is just stupid.
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I think the prism manufacturers are conspiring against you at this point.
Link Posted: 9/15/2023 10:08:45 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony:

https://www.swampfoxoptics.com/raider-1x20-micro-prism
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Basically this with an ACSS reticle.

That would get my vote.
Link Posted: 9/18/2023 8:58:41 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Wespe:
I prefer knobs over buttons all day and every day.  I also hate touch screen controls in cars.  
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It must be the old guys in us , I also hate push buttons in lighting control of optics.  I can understand the need for minimal foot print in small RDS but a tube optic this size, knob is a much better design.
Link Posted: 9/18/2023 9:52:06 AM EST
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Originally Posted By bravo5two:

It must be the old guys in us , I also hate push buttons in lighting control of optics.  I can understand the need for minimal foot print in small RDS but a tube optic this size, knob is a much better design.
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Originally Posted By bravo5two:
Originally Posted By Wespe:
I prefer knobs over buttons all day and every day.  I also hate touch screen controls in cars.  

It must be the old guys in us , I also hate push buttons in lighting control of optics.  I can understand the need for minimal foot print in small RDS but a tube optic this size, knob is a much better design.


Touch screen/button climate controls are the worst too
Link Posted: 10/14/2023 7:50:06 AM EST
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Originally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony:

https://www.swampfoxoptics.com/raider-1x20-micro-prism
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Thanks for pointing this one out - I picked up two of them with the BRC reticle. I like them a lot and serves the role of an RDS with an etched reticle + adj. diopter very well.
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