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Posted: 8/21/2023 10:35:59 AM EST
I see the GLx 1-10x24 FFP are available now with only one review on PA website. Is there any info out there regarding this scope? Looking at this and the PLxC 1-8x24 FFP. Looks like is heavier than the PLxC.
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Link Posted: 8/21/2023 12:14:31 PM EST
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PLX C is a whole other class of optic and is superior in pretty much every way
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 1:04:16 AM EST
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PLX C is a whole other class of optic and is superior in pretty much every way
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Good to hear that. I see its running about twice as much as the GLx but when I read reviews on the LPVOs they seem to complain about similar things between the different models. Like reticle brightness or the optics at x8 or x10. Hard to tell the difference between them. Trying to justify double the price when I hear the same issue being talked about. unfortunately I don't have access to PA at any local stores to check out.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 2:44:48 AM EST
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At 23.3 oz, that's one heavy cow for such a small objective lens.  This is where the 16oz 1-8x PLx version shines, IMHO.   You can get their 2.5-10X GLx for cheaper, and lighter - yet somehow with a much bigger objective lens.  Meaning when the light get dim, which is when things start moving, that bigger objective will still be gathering light, vs the new one.

If you want 1X capability, there you go.  though IMHO, 2.5X is low enough, it's fine for CQB duel roll.  If the gun is intended to primarly be a CQB gun, than now we're back to talking about that 23.3 oz.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 3:17:27 AM EST
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At 23.3 oz, that's one heavy cow for such a small objective lens.  This is where the 16oz 1-8x PLx version shines, IMHO.   You can get their 2.5-10X GLx for cheaper, and lighter - yet somehow with a much bigger objective lens.  Meaning when the light get dim, which is when things start moving, that bigger objective will still be gathering light, vs the new one.

If you want 1X capability, there you go.  though IMHO, 2.5X is low enough, it's fine for CQB duel roll.  If the gun is intended to primarly be a CQB gun, than now we're back to talking about that 23.3 oz.
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I went with the GLx 2.5x-10 mil reticle version for a NV/GP build.  The current gen GLx Philippines glass is very good.

Link Posted: 8/22/2023 8:51:28 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/22/2023 10:12:05 AM EST
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I went with the GLx 2.5x-10 mil reticle version for a NV/GP build.  The current gen GLx Philippines glass is very good.

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Nice set up there. Hadn't though to much about the 2.5 -10. And with the red dot. I could do that on a different rifle for sure that was more of a mid range shooter. Still need a LPVO though. The weight of the GLx may be too much. Interesting the 2.5-10 is lighter than the GLx 1-10. Wonder how it actually preforms.
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 11:43:45 AM EST
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At 23.3 oz, that's one heavy cow for such a small objective lens.  This is where the 16oz 1-8x PLx version shines, IMHO.   You can get their 2.5-10X GLx for cheaper, and lighter - yet somehow with a much bigger objective lens.  Meaning when the light get dim, which is when things start moving, that bigger objective will still be gathering light, vs the new one.

If you want 1X capability, there you go.  though IMHO, 2.5X is low enough, it's fine for CQB duel roll.  If the gun is intended to primarly be a CQB gun, than now we're back to talking about that 23.3 oz.
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Thanks for the feed back. Besides the weight I'm wondering what the x10 optics and the illumination are like compared to the PLx. I would guess the eye relief would be more restrictive
Link Posted: 8/22/2023 12:10:43 PM EST
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Thanks for the feed back. Besides the weight I'm wondering what the x10 optics and the illumination are like compared to the PLx. I would guess the eye relief would be more restrictive
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Part of the reason I went 2.5-10 was the eye relief and eye box being much better on it compared to any 1-10 I've tried at max mag and I gain parallax adjustment.  That build above is a pinned and welded 14.5", but I still find the parallax adjustment handy to have.

Running the red dot on top (507C ACSS Vulcan) gives me a fast and comfortable head-ups stance at 1x and works well with my NVGs, but still allows me a nice cheek weld when behind the scope, offhand, supported, or prone.

My thinking is that if you need 10x magnification, an LVPO just ain't the way to go, 1-6 or a really good 1-8 (like the PLx C) is about my limit on LVPO magnification with the current tech.
Link Posted: 8/24/2023 12:48:34 AM EST
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Part of the reason I went 2.5-10 was the eye relief and eye box being much better on it compared to any 1-10 I've tried at max mag and I gain parallax adjustment.  That build above is a pinned and welded 14.5", but I still find the parallax adjustment handy to have.

Running the red dot on top (507C ACSS Vulcan) gives me a fast and comfortable head-ups stance at 1x and works well with my NVGs, but still allows me a nice cheek weld when behind the scope, offhand, supported, or prone.

My thinking is that if you need 10x magnification, an LVPO just ain't the way to go, 1-6 or a really good 1-8 (like the PLx C) is about my limit on LVPO magnification with the current tech.
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Yeah I think that makes sense. Another thing too is spending $700 on a scope is not exactly cheap. Especially if it has multiple issues. Seems money would be better spent on a Quality red dot instead. As far as the PLx C goes its sounds like a better way to go even with the high price. I paid for some high end glass over the years for camera lens and scopes and they are great. I don't like paying $$ for something with a list of issues. I think I'll also check out the 2.5-10 set up too.
Link Posted: 9/1/2023 5:04:32 PM EST
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I currently have a pa glx 2.5-10 , a pa plxc 1-8 and a vortex razor 1-10. They are all really nice scopes and all have their pros and cons.

PROS:
The glx 2.5-10 is the  best value for the price  ,  best max power performance, has parallax adjustment and best eye box.  
The pa plxc 1-8 is the  best overall package for size,weight and 1x power clarity.
The razor 1-10 has a little more forgiving eyebox than the plxc, better max magnified performance than the plxc   and has a daylight bright reticle.

CONS:
The glx 2.5-10 elevation turret is too tall to piggy back a rmr style sight and see through. You need to use a riser and then you can't get a good chin weld.
The plxc 1-8 eye box is  tight, you need to adjust the diopter  at 1x and adjust it differently at 8x to get clarity and the reticle stadia could be a little thicker to pick up at 1x.
The razor 1-10 is heavy vs the plxc , doesn't have auto live illumination and the reticle is hard to use at 1x without illumination on.

Ultimately I would say the best overall pick would be the glx2.5-10 of the three if primary arms would make a lower capped elevation turret so that it could be used with a standard height piggy back red dot sight. But since they don't the pa plxc 1-8 with a piggy back red dot is my top pick and would be the one I would choose for the end of days !

These  are only my humble experiences and opinions. And my context of use is for ar15 556 and or  ar10 308 to be used from 0-600 yards in hunting and defense scenarios.
Link Posted: 9/17/2023 2:02:51 PM EST
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I currently have a pa glx 2.5-10 , a pa plxc 1-8 and a vortex razor 1-10. They are all really nice scopes and all have their pros and cons.

PROS:
The glx 2.5-10 is the  best value for the price  ,  best max power performance, has parallax adjustment and best eye box.  
The pa plxc 1-8 is the  best overall package for size,weight and 1x power clarity.
The razor 1-10 has a little more forgiving eyebox than the plxc, better max magnified performance than the plxc   and has a daylight bright reticle.

CONS:
The glx 2.5-10 elevation turret is too tall to piggy back a rmr style sight and see through. You need to use a riser and then you can't get a good chin weld.
The plxc 1-8 eye box is  tight, you need to adjust the diopter  at 1x and adjust it differently at 8x to get clarity and the reticle stadia could be a little thicker to pick up at 1x.
The razor 1-10 is heavy vs the plxc , doesn't have auto live illumination and the reticle is hard to use at 1x without illumination on.

Ultimately I would say the best overall pick would be the glx2.5-10 of the three if primary arms would make a lower capped elevation turret so that it could be used with a standard height piggy back red dot sight. But since they don't the pa plxc 1-8 with a piggy back red dot is my top pick and would be the one I would choose for the end of days !

These  are only my humble experiences and opinions. And my context of use is for ar15 556 and or  ar10 308 to be used from 0-600 yards in hunting and defense scenarios.
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Thanks for the reply. This is very helpful. Much appreciated
Link Posted: 10/1/2023 12:50:35 PM EST
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Hi everyone! I'm a longtime reader/lurker of these forums but finally decided to register just so I could thank all of you for the information about this optic. It ultimately convinced me to purchase one for myself and after receiving it yesterday, I put together a video of its unboxing and my initial observations/impressions. I also have a GLx 1–6×24 FFP so I referenced it throughout the video as a basis of comparison.

I'll be the first to admit that I'm no professional GunTuber, influencer-reviewer, or anything like that, so please forgive any inconsistencies or oversights during this quick look... but hopefully it sheds some light on this somewhat-mysterious LPVO to help others decide whether they might want to grab one while they are still available!

Primary Arms GLx 1-10×24 FFP: First Impressions and Quick Look
Link Posted: 10/1/2023 5:47:05 PM EST
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Hi everyone! I'm a longtime reader/lurker of these forums but finally decided to register just so I could thank all of you for the information about this optic. It ultimately convinced me to purchase one for myself and after receiving it yesterday, I put together a video of its unboxing and my initial observations/impressions. I also have a GLx 1–6×24 FFP so I referenced it throughout the video as a basis of comparison.

I'll be the first to admit that I'm no professional GunTuber, influencer-reviewer, or anything like that, so please forgive any inconsistencies or oversights during this quick look... but hopefully it sheds some light on this somewhat-mysterious LPVO to help others decide whether they might want to grab one while they are still available!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIwnYZCyx9U
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Nicely done.  Liked how you went through the magnification and illumination range.

As to the thread, there are some great examples of MPVO's in discussion here as an alternate to the GLX 1x10.  I'm been going through a phase of exploring different sighting options for my rifles.  Just recently, PA had a sale on the GLX 2.5-10's bigger brother, the GLX 4-16 mil reticle for $499.  Have to say, I'm very pleased with this scope.  I've been wanting something MPVO'ish, with a rangefinding FFP reticle, under $1k.  This scope nailed it.  The GLX 2.5-10 is 22.5 oz with the 4-16 being 23.5oz, although it's longer by 1.3".  I'm now working on MRDS and mount research.

My very unexperienced thoughts...

Post #5 from @HawkinsID in this thread really hit home for me.  Aside from HD use, where I wouldn't need magnification, and IMHO an RDS rules, I want the instantaneous switch between a NOW moment, which means RDS/MRDS, and magnification.  

I forget what it was called, but a few years ago Leupold had a scope that was a combination RDS on top and 3x prism on the bottom.  I'd love to see that evolved with a 3-4x variable magnification range and low weight.
Link Posted: 10/2/2023 8:20:30 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/2/2023 10:04:13 AM EST
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we really appreciate the kind words! we really thank you for the support!

As to your answer on Leupold, I think it is the HAMR
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The leupold D-EVO is what he is thinking of. Super cool concept, I would love someone to make a wide FOV higher mag fixed power that I can pair with an offset rds. The thought is a good one, I think the execution was not quite there.

The 1-10 GLX is wild, but the 2-10 is better. If something could be lightweight and around that 8-10X, you might be on to something
Link Posted: 10/3/2023 8:49:16 AM EST
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Link Posted: 10/3/2023 8:53:28 PM EST
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Based on my one whole week of experience w/ their GLX 1-10, I have to say that I'm absolutely a fan.  I'm pretty shocked by the performance, especially for the price.  The eyebox is not very forgiving, but I expect that on an LPVO compromise optic.  I love the mil reticle and the turrets are solid as a rock.  I bought another one even though I don't know what gun that one is going on yet.  With the $200 bonus bucks deal they had going on this model last week, I couldn't help myself.  Please remember to take all this with a grain of salt since I have only had it for a week.
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