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Posted: 7/10/2022 10:42:24 AM EDT
I just purchased a PSA 20" CHF 1:7 A2 RIFLE LENGTH 5.56 NATO PREMIUM AR-15 UPPER ASSEMBLY - NO BCG/CH
PSA 20” CHF 1/7 A2 rifle upper The front sight base is phosphated on the sides and has the cast marks ground off on the front and rear. The front and rear of the FSB is blued, in contrast to the phosphated sides. Anyone else seeing this? PSA has offered to send me a new FSB, the absurdity of that offer is obvious. The white spots on the sight are glare reflected off the polished surface.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 7/9/2022 10:14:42 PM EDT
[#1]
Yeah, there was another thread about it a few weeks ago.
Josiah from PSA, responded that the forge flashing was being ground off due to customer complaints. 
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Posted: 7/9/2022 10:18:20 PM EDT
[#2]
Poorly done and not phosphated afterwards.
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Posted: 7/9/2022 10:37:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Poorly done and not phosphated afterwards. Quote HistoryQuoted: Poorly done and not phosphated afterwards. No argument from me. Quoted: We had a lot of customers who are new to the AR15 platform complaining about the seam on the forged FSB's. They felt like it was a defect in the part. We decided to clean up the part and remove the forged seam in the manufacturing process to alleviate those complaints. Thank you, Josiah LINK |
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Posted: 7/9/2022 11:39:50 PM EDT
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Freakin gun newbz ruined FSBs because they don’t know what forge flashing is. (Or casting samendifference)
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Posted: 7/9/2022 11:43:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Poorly done and not phosphated afterwards. No argument from me. Quoted: We had a lot of customers who are new to the AR15 platform complaining about the seam on the forged FSB's. They felt like it was a defect in the part. We decided to clean up the part and remove the forged seam in the manufacturing process to alleviate those complaints. Thank you, Josiah LINK Yep. It’s stupid and the end result looks like crap, as OP observed. |
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Posted: 7/9/2022 11:44:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Freakin gun newbz ruined FSBs because they don’t know what forge flashing is. (Or casting samendifference) Actually, no. 2 completely different manufacturing methods. |
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Posted: 7/10/2022 12:14:53 AM EDT
[#7]
Wow.
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Posted: 7/10/2022 12:23:10 AM EDT
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If you don't like it, just take them up on the offer to replace it with a unground one. Simple, this hardly seems worth a post other than those look like sh!t ground like that.
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Posted: 7/10/2022 12:29:37 AM EDT
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Strange how PSA's business model of cutting corners to undercut quality manufacturers doesn't preclude extra work that makes the product worse
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Posted: 7/10/2022 12:57:46 AM EDT
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I had the same issue with a PSA dissipator upper I just received. I gave a two star review on that item.
Mine was a pinned FSB just like yours, however I was able to change to a phosphate FSB with some machine work. If you don't know what you're doing you can mess up the switch big time. Since I have already drilled and reamed the taper holes there was no way to send my upper back. Between the ridiculous looking FSB and the large gouge on my barrel near the flash hider, I am not happy. I also tried to change to Magpul MOE rifle length handguards and that was impossible. The distance between the delta ring and handguard cap was to narrow. The list goes on! I should have sent it back, at $209.00 I thought I would practice my machining. I've dealt with PSA for many years and this really surprised me, it's embarrassing. |
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Posted: 7/10/2022 1:27:04 AM EDT
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the dizzy I got from them 6 months ago came without the front sight pin.
 its a PSA what did you expect?
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Posted: 7/10/2022 5:14:51 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually, no. 2 completely different manufacturing methods. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Freakin gun newbz ruined FSBs because they don’t know what forge flashing is. (Or casting samendifference) Actually, no. 2 completely different manufacturing methods. I understand that I mean they can both leave a bur/seam/flashing. I’m fairly sure the FSBs are forged. |
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Posted: 7/10/2022 5:39:28 AM EDT
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maybe there's more vocal noobs than vocal connoisseurs?
just like our govt, vocal misguided minorities sets the tone. |
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Posted: 7/10/2022 10:42:24 AM EDT
[#14]
Topic Moved
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Posted: 7/10/2022 10:53:16 AM EDT
[#15]
Thats weird - I recently received a mid-length PSA upper and the front sight has the forging marks.
Not sure why anyone would complain about them. |
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Posted: 7/10/2022 11:58:10 AM EDT
[#16]
Make it flat black and advertise it as "National Match" quality.
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Posted: 7/10/2022 12:04:01 PM EDT
[#17]
Shinny front sights make for great shooting!
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Posted: 7/10/2022 2:19:04 PM EDT
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Quoted: If you don't like it, just take them up on the offer to replace it with a unground one. Simple, this hardly seems worth a post other than those look like sh!t ground like that. I was wondering whether I just got lucky here or this is the new norm. PSA’s offer to send a replacement FSB to me was stupid. You can’t just swap out FSB. It does look wrong. I’ve been buying from PSA for many years and was just surprised. I thought it might be supply chain issues, like everything else and this their new norm, which apparently it is. |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 6:49:47 AM EDT
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Quoted: I just purchased a PSA 20" CHF 1:7 A2 RIFLE LENGTH 5.56 NATO PREMIUM AR-15 UPPER ASSEMBLY - NO BCG/CH PSA 20” CHF 1/7 A2 rifle upper The front sight base is phosphated on the sides and has the cast marks ground off on the front and rear. The front and rear of the FSB is blued, in contrast to the phosphated sides. Anyone else seeing this? PSA has offered to send me a new FSB, the absurdity of that offer is obvious. The white spots on the sight are glare reflected off the polished surface. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/41277/B95C6130-9694-4634-9282-6895DEDA9A4E_jpe-2447378.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/41277/5B54F0C1-B7A5-4711-93D1-DFC96B6829DB_jpe-2447379.JPG The grounding on the front portion of the FSB goes all the way from the top to the bottom.. Means that PSA either removed & reinstalled the FSB or the job was done before the FSB was mated to the barrel… Are PSA barrels parkerized under the FSB? |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 8:28:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The grounding on the front portion of the FSB goes all the way from the top to the bottom.. Means that PSA either removed & reinstalled the FSB or the job was done before the FSB was mated to the barrel… Are PSA barrels parkerized under the FSB? I've had a few PSA barrels now, all parked under FSB. I'm fairly certain that the seam removal was pre installation. And surely we will be seeing more. Eta: ">We decided to clean up the part and remove the forged seam in the manufacturing process to alleviate those complaints. Thank you, Josiah" Sure sounds as if it was before install. |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 10:03:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/14/2022 7:35:13 PM EDT
[#22]
On second thought.....
Quoted: After listening to feedback, we will not be removing the forging seam going forward. Thank you, Josiah Good deal. |
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Posted: 7/16/2022 10:10:07 AM EDT
[#23]
I just received my PSA complete upper and immediately noticed the same thing. Don't like it at all but not sure if it's worth returning or swapping out the front sight post. Every time I look at the gun it will bug me though.
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Posted: 7/16/2022 7:01:34 PM EDT
[#24]
FSB's were so early 2000s
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Posted: 7/16/2022 7:32:59 PM EDT
[#25]
It's a tool, tools are not required to look pretty.
I would equate this with Glock changing over to the drop free mags, I like my early mags as they won't drop out of the gun with around ten or more rounds left. |
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Posted: 7/16/2022 7:46:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FSB's were so early 2000s And so damn solid. |
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Posted: 7/17/2022 2:25:09 AM EDT
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What kind of finish was applied?
Just cold blue? I’d be worried about rust… |
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Posted: 8/9/2022 5:33:20 AM EDT
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Quoted: @Bundy34 @palmettostatearmory Just got my replacement in today. It's better, but the seam has still been ground down pretty heavily although it's at least all phosphate this time. I do have to say though, it looks pretty beat up for a "premium" upper. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/335677/20220808_201502-2482555.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/335677/20220808_201435-2482556.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/335677/20220808_201416-2482557.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/335677/20220808_201355-2482558.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/335677/20220808_201308-2482559.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/335677/20220808_201108-2482560.jpg |
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Posted: 8/9/2022 6:16:56 AM EDT
[#29]
That's the way to do it.
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Posted: 8/9/2022 6:35:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the way to do it. You really think so? Personally, I do not care for it. It's a slight improvement over the prior attempt....but still not something that I'd want. Leave the flashing, stop attempting to reinvent the wheel..... 
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Posted: 8/9/2022 6:59:36 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you don't like it, just take them up on the offer to replace it with a unground one. Simple, this hardly seems worth a post other than those look like sh!t ground like that. You can’t just hot glue a FSB on your barrel. |
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Posted: 8/9/2022 7:08:03 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You can’t just hot glue a FSB on your barrel.
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Posted: 8/9/2022 7:15:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You can’t just hot glue a FSB on your barrel. I guess you pretty much can. 
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Posted: 8/9/2022 7:18:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess you pretty much can. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You can’t just hot glue a FSB on your barrel. I guess you pretty much can. I won't be the one to say it hasn't been tried. 
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Posted: 8/9/2022 10:27:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can't just hot glue a FSB on your barrel. |
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