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Posted: 5/7/2021 6:12:33 PM EDT
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I've had a backorder in with DSG since December. All their backorder slots are full (what I was told anyway), so hopefully I'll at least get to start the real wait soon.
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Posted: 5/7/2021 7:54:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stainlineho: Don’t think you can really call it a rumor since it came from the man himself, but that is good news that he will be staying active. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stainlineho: Originally Posted By deadpunch: It's not true. Ron is still pumping them out. I put to bed the "retirement" rumor as well. Spoke to him about a month ago and he kinda chuckled about it. He said that he's merely going back to a 40 hour work week. Don’t think you can really call it a rumor since it came from the man himself, but that is good news that he will be staying active. That little tid bid was omitted when I talked to him. Sounds like he said one thing one day, scared us, then changed his mind. I stand corrected. Anyhow yeah, glad we can still get them. |
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Posted: 5/7/2021 8:25:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gremyashchy1911: One on GunBroker but it’s high, other then that jump on a waiting list. I got lucky and found mine in a retail store for a lead and grabbed it turn of the year. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/899844293 Oh my god 
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Posted: 5/7/2021 8:41:57 PM EDT
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Do the correct KAC sling studs ever come around? Or the KAC MWS bipod mount with correct markings (for mod 0)? I've been looking for several months now and have come across neither, but could certainly be that I'm just missing them. Curious when the last time anyone saw either of those were.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/7/2021 8:50:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By teamjawbox: Do the correct KAC sling studs ever come around? Or the KAC MWS bipod mount with correct markings (for mod 0)? I've been looking for several months now and have come across neither, but could certainly be that I'm just missing them. Curious when the last time anyone saw either of those were. Operations parts gets the KAC sling studs with the Uncle Mikes about every 6-9 months. I got one by signing up for in-stock notifications. |
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Posted: 5/7/2021 9:13:09 PM EDT
[#6]
The KAC 98721 is instock at Operation parts now. Not sure if it’s the correct one and I know the Uncle Mike’s is incorrect on it but it works for me until better comes along. Two showed up in the EE a few weeks ago and got gone quick both older style.
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Posted: 5/7/2021 9:25:59 PM EDT
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The sling studs that come with that don't appear to be correct. At least from what I can see. Also the markings on the adapter itself appear different. The pics I saw of an issued gen 3 mod 0 had a KAC logo instead of the text with NSN and all that. I'll dig up pics of both to try and show what I'm talking about.
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Posted: 5/7/2021 9:32:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: teamjawbox]
[#8]
Here's a pic of issued vs modern available I got from Operation Parts
The stud is different and the markings on the mount itself are different. Edit: Top is issued gen 3 mod 0, bottom is mine.  Attached FileAnd more of the issued one from the other side (no markings).  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/7/2021 9:37:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By teamjawbox: Here's a pic of issued vs modern available I got from Operation Parts The stud is different and the markings on the mount itself are different. Edit: Top is issued gen 3 mod 0, bottom is mine. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/343681/20210507_203335-COLLAGE_jpg-1933769.JPG  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 5/7/2021 9:38:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By kmcale: Originally Posted By teamjawbox: Here's a pic of issued vs modern available I got from Operation Parts The stud is different and the markings on the mount itself are different. Edit: Top is issued gen 3 mod 0, bottom is mine. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/343681/20210507_203335-COLLAGE_jpg-1933769.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20210507_203450_jpg-1933771.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20210507_203513_jpg-1933772.JPG Thank you!! That's exactly what I was looking for. Such a better view. |
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Posted: 5/8/2021 1:21:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mstennes]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlueDevilBrew: JFC the seller bridged the gap. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlueDevilBrew: Originally Posted By stainlineho: JFC I paid $625 for mine. JFC the seller bridged the gap. $1525.00 and 6 days left?? What hell? |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/8/2021 6:31:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: edwin907]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mstennes: $1525.00 and 6 days left?? What hell? CRAP. What would an original 5.56 marked OPS 12th model run? Except mine doesn't say 12th Model on it anywhere. But it is absolutely a OPS 12th Model 5.56. Anybody else got a pic of their engraving? 
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Posted: 5/8/2021 9:35:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/8/2021 4:42:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Samson-Dogg]
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I was under the impression the 12th models were marked that way. I have an ops 15th model that is marked like the 2 pics above M4.
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Posted: 5/8/2021 6:15:26 PM EDT
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Not complete, still waiting on the lower to come in, need to properly seat the gas block and torque the brake, missing the BCG, etc. but I went ahead and robbed some parts off my mod 0 piece pile to mock up the mod 1. Should receive the missing parts sometime this month, aside from AEM5. God only nows when that's gonna show up (or maybe only Ron knows!
 ).Overall I think it's gonna come out pretty good. Still debating between A1 or SOPMOD stock, but gonna start with A1.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/8/2021 6:54:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By teamjawbox: Not complete, still waiting on the lower to come in, need to properly seat the gas block and torque the brake, missing the BCG, etc. but I went ahead and robbed some parts off my mod 0 piece pile to mock up the mod 1. Should receive the missing parts sometime this month, aside from AEM5. God only nows when that's gonna show up (or maybe only Ron knows! ).Overall I think it's gonna come out pretty good. Still debating between A1 or SOPMOD stock, but gonna start with A1. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/343681/20210508_170931_jpg-1934825.JPG Man that’s a nice looking rifle those TS-30 scopes look so right on a mod1. Sure it’s a slab side illumination but still just fits the rifles size. |
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Posted: 5/8/2021 8:29:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: teamjawbox]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gremyashchy1911: Man that’s a nice looking rifle those TS-30 scopes look so right on a mod1. Sure it’s a slab side illumination but still just fits the rifles size. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gremyashchy1911: Originally Posted By teamjawbox: Not complete, still waiting on the lower to come in, need to properly seat the gas block and torque the brake, missing the BCG, etc. but I went ahead and robbed some parts off my mod 0 piece pile to mock up the mod 1. Should receive the missing parts sometime this month, aside from AEM5. God only nows when that's gonna show up (or maybe only Ron knows! ).Overall I think it's gonna come out pretty good. Still debating between A1 or SOPMOD stock, but gonna start with A1. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/343681/20210508_170931_jpg-1934825.JPG Man that’s a nice looking rifle those TS-30 scopes look so right on a mod1. Sure it’s a slab side illumination but still just fits the rifles size. Agreed. The profile of it just fits. Don't know how else to describe it. Edit: Wound up doing Badger MK12 gas block and you guys were spot on. Took a bit of effort to get it on there, LOL. Nothing a rubber mallet couldn't handle, but definitely took some elbow grease. That scope is a Y suffix so newer 2013 but will be on here until something more correct comes along. I have an '03 and '04 3-9x36 and 3.5-10x40 that are on the Mod 0 and H. Though the LRT has had the illum housing replaced with the newer slab side after it went to Leupold for maintenance. If you have a round one and want to keep it that way be very leery of sending it to Leupold for maintenance, LOL. |
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Posted: 5/8/2021 10:48:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: red6actual]
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Posted: 5/8/2021 11:30:27 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RMiller: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/19923/20210508_214120-1935200.jpg That is awesome. You just have that laying around or did you find a good score? |
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Posted: 5/8/2021 11:35:28 PM EDT
[#20]
In my extra parts box...
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Posted: 5/8/2021 11:38:06 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RMiller: In my extra parts box... Awesome! If you decide you don't need it keep a feller in mind
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MN, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2021 1:08:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By teamjawbox: Here's a pic of issued vs modern available I got from Operation Parts The stud is different and the markings on the mount itself are different. Edit: Top is issued gen 3 mod 0, bottom is mine. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/343681/20210507_203335-COLLAGE_jpg-1933769.JPG And more of the issued one from the other side (no markings). https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/343681/20210507_203653-COLLAGE_jpg-1933773.JPG So are the correct issued sling studs an older KAC production item? I have a sling stud obtained directly from Knights Armament that looks like the one that would come in an operation parts RAS sling adapter. This is considered the modern production KAC stud? Last question, are Uncle Mike's sling swivels another part that has changed over the years? The photo on page one there appears to be an Uncle Mike's type sling swivel partially shown. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 1:18:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TW56: So are the correct issued sling studs an older KAC production item? I have a sling stud obtained directly from Knights Armament that looks like the one that would come in an operation parts RAS sling adapter. This is considered the modern production KAC stud? Last question, are Uncle Mike's sling swivels another part that has changed over the years? The photo on page one there appears to be an Uncle Mike's type sling swivel partially shown. Correct sling mount changed a little bit. Current style was used late with USMC Mod 1s. Earlier ones won't have the logo and usually have a socket head screw. Stands to reason that the above unmarked with current style screw was also used at some point. The Uncle Mikes have changed three-four times that I know. Current shiny ones are a shadow of their former quality. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 1:21:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kmcale]
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WV, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2021 1:33:19 PM EDT
[#25]
^^^ this the last part that I need.
Are they available anywhere? All I see are the oval style not the square(ish) style. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 1:48:57 PM EDT
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You'll need to look for the swivel with an sku of 14023. Optics Planet and Walmart allegedly has them in-stock. The one's I bought off Amazon weren't blued, but the same pattern.
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Posted: 5/9/2021 1:52:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Markius-Fox: You'll need to look for the swivel with an sku of 14023. Optics Planet and Walmart allegedly has them in-stock. The one's I bought off Amazon weren't blued, but the same pattern. I bought some of these off Amazon that were not blued and was able to get them close to the original color with several coats of Birchwood Casey Perma Blue. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 1:58:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jkacg1: I bought some of these off Amazon that were not blued and was able to get them close to the original color with several coats of Birchwood Casey Perma Blue. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jkacg1: Originally Posted By Markius-Fox: You'll need to look for the swivel with an sku of 14023. Optics Planet and Walmart allegedly has them in-stock. The one's I bought off Amazon weren't blued, but the same pattern. I bought some of these off Amazon that were not blued and was able to get them close to the original color with several coats of Birchwood Casey Perma Blue. @Ditch-Tiger if you want one of the 14023 sku's that's non-blued to try this with PM me your addy and I'll mail you one. |
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WV, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2021 2:05:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ditch-Tiger]
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That's awesome; Thank you so much!!!
PM sent. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 2:25:59 PM EDT
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anyone have any ITW pics of a TS30-A2 3-9x non-illuminated? K suffix - 2002. Has the correct mk12 ''.223 REM / 5.56mm 62GR.' turrets. Talked to @USMCSGT0331 about it yesterday and he suggested perhaps the unit requested they be converted to non-illuminated. Had they been converted at leupold as a repair, they would have certainly been fixed with illumination again, or slab sides if later repairs. Bit of a mystery on these.
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Posted: 5/9/2021 3:05:50 PM EDT
[#31]
Originally Posted By teamjawbox: The sling studs that come with that don't appear to be correct. At least from what I can see. Also the markings on the adapter itself appear different. The pics I saw of an issued gen 3 mod 0 had a KAC logo instead of the text with NSN and all that. I'll dig up pics of both to try and show what I'm talking about. Originally Posted By teamjawbox: That is awesome. You just have that laying around or did you find a good score? Correct KAC Rail Mount Sling Swivel Adapter Military Part #97027 (P/N: 98721) for a MK12 MOD0:  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 3:13:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ilikebmxbikes]
[#32]
Here is what my mod 1 kit came with.
         
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Posted: 5/9/2021 3:33:03 PM EDT
[#33]
Page 1071 is straight up kicking ass for part specs!
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Posted: 5/9/2021 6:55:22 PM EDT
[#34]
If you are in Facebooks CRA Service Clones page, I have a few detailed albums saved there. Here is a couple of screen grabs that I did of a 'Titusville' sling adapter that I bought new in box in 2018.
 Attached File Attached FileIf someone here isn't active in the FB post I could post some photos back here. |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 7:03:53 PM EDT
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I additionally have an initial SOPMOD sling kit that I put detailed photos of in the Facebook US military clones group. Since these kits were issued with the intial SOPMOD kits, they could have been used with the early MK. 12's.
Here is a few screen shots of my album there. If there is something that you want to see more of let me know.  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 5/9/2021 7:53:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DRF: Correct KAC Rail Mount Sling Swivel Adapter Military Part #97027 (P/N: 98721) for a MK12 MOD0: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/417854/IMG_2660_JPG-1935844.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/417854/IMG_2661_jpg-1935847.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/417854/IMG_2662_jpg-1935848.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/417854/IMG_2659_jpg-1935851.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/417854/1311_Mk12_Mod_0_A_R_M_S__PEQ2_top_rail__-1935852.JPG Interesting. Even the hex bolt is different between the pic of the issued gen 3 mod 0 and the documentation. The one on the issued doesn't appear to be slotted for a flat head as well as hex. Its like they were just using a jumbled bunch of parts or whatever they had readily available. I'm gonna have to try to hit Fastenal and find a bolt! |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 5/9/2021 9:32:41 PM EDT
[#37]
A thank you for answering my questions regarding sling studs and sling swivels. Love the pictures!
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Posted: 5/10/2021 9:56:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Charger1234]
[#38]
Who here has extensive use of the mod 1 rifles here? We had one in Iraq but only rarely touched it because it wasn't our primary job to shoot people (we were a reconnaissance company) and the way that it came was a little jacked up in our opinion. It had the old M24 scope on it, but mounted in the standard A.R.M.S. scope rings; but the forward ring was mounted on the handguard rail and on my recreation of our rifle I'm doing I won't mount a scope ring to that rail. I don't trust it.
So now I'm torn with having the scope ocular lens about an inch rearward of the charging handle (which is still semi ok for my eye relief) or using a cantilever AR scope mount bringing the scope an inch forward. My question is this; was the ARMS rings the ONLY way you've seen these rifles set up with? Or were there any issue ar specific cantilever mounts on your rifles. Thanks for the info. |
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Posted: 5/10/2021 10:40:28 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charger1234: Who here has extensive use of the mod 1 rifles here? We had one in Iraq but only rarely touched it because it wasn't our primary job to shoot people (we were a reconnaissance company) and the way that it came was a little jacked up in our opinion. It had the old M24 scope on it, but mounted in the standard A.R.M.S. scope rings; but the forward ring was mounted on the handguard rail and on my recreation of our rifle I'm doing I won't mount a scope ring to that rail. I don't trust it. So now I'm torn with having the scope ocular lens about an inch rearward of the charging handle (which is still semi ok for my eye relief) or using a cantilever AR scope mount bringing the scope an inch forward. My question is this; was the ARMS rings the ONLY way you've seen these rifles set up with? Or were there any issue ar specific cantilever mounts on your rifles. Thanks for the info.  |
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Posted: 5/10/2021 11:20:35 AM EDT
[#40]
I want one of those Swan Sleeves
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Posted: 5/10/2021 11:40:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Minuteman1636: I additionally have an initial SOPMOD sling kit that I put detailed photos of in the Facebook US military clones group. Since these kits were issued with the intial SOPMOD kits, they could have been used with the early MK. 12's. Here is a few screen shots of my album there. If there is something that you want to see more of let me know. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/Screenshot_20210509-175811_Facebook_jpg-1936163.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/Screenshot_20210509-175709_Facebook_jpg-1936164.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/336740/Screenshot_20210509-175723_Facebook_jpg-1936165.JPG Great info, I have one of these kits as well. |
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Posted: 5/10/2021 12:02:11 PM EDT
[#42]
Here is one with a 10x m3a or m3. If you need one of these scopes let me know.
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Posted: 5/10/2021 7:17:07 PM EDT
[#43]
That rail looks familiar
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Posted: 5/10/2021 7:19:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PerfectTurn]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Theodoric: Swan sleeve. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124774/743E38FA-5FC5-4E00-99B7-1C8F2995708D-1936950.jpg Knew it looked familiar.... Found this in a local gun store clearance/used bin a couple weeks back. 
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Posted: 5/10/2021 9:19:34 PM EDT
[#45]
Buy a lottery ticket cause you got great luck.
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Posted: 5/10/2021 11:20:36 PM EDT
[#46]
Anyone happen to know what time of year KAC puts out runs with rifle-lenth RAS's for the mod 1's or if it's randomly released in the past? Not in a rush for it, just bored of looking for it every day.
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:00:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By deadpunch: Anyone happen to know what time of year KAC puts out runs with rifle-lenth RAS's for the mod 1's or if it's randomly released in the past? Not in a rush for it, just bored of looking for it every day. No dice from the WTB post on the EE? |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:01:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: deadpunch]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By teamjawbox: No dice from the WTB post on the EE? Negative. Little surprised. It's not like it's an ultra rare hard to find item. I'm just always late to the dance when one gets posted up. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:04:51 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By deadpunch: Negative. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By deadpunch: Originally Posted By teamjawbox: No dice from the WTB post on the EE? Negative. Darn. I pinged the guy that sold me mine and asked if he had another or if he knew anyone that had one and he replied back stating all he had left was a URX. Said he'd reach out if he got his hands on another long RAS though. If he pings me again I'll definitely reach out. |
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Posted: 5/11/2021 12:23:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By teamjawbox: Darn. I pinged the guy that sold me mine and asked if he had another or if he knew anyone that had one and he replied back stating all he had left was a URX. Said he'd reach out if he got his hands on another long RAS though. If he pings me again I'll definitely reach out. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By teamjawbox: Originally Posted By deadpunch: Originally Posted By teamjawbox: No dice from the WTB post on the EE? Negative. Darn. I pinged the guy that sold me mine and asked if he had another or if he knew anyone that had one and he replied back stating all he had left was a URX. Said he'd reach out if he got his hands on another long RAS though. If he pings me again I'll definitely reach out. All good homey, appreciate the look out. I think it's the MK12 god's telling me I have too many builds going at once and my bank account telling me to slow the hell down. :) |
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