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Posted: 1/11/2021 9:57:28 PM EDT
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I posted this in the Allen Engineering thread in the silencer forum. A member there grabbed the second one.
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Posted: 1/11/2021 10:47:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex: That's the one. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex: Originally Posted By tamboi: One on the right is correct? https://www.ar15-backup.com/media/mediaFiles/28561/20210111_142652_jpg-1775353.JPG That's the one. Thanks |
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Posted: 1/12/2021 5:06:18 PM EDT
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Capital Armory has Allen brakes and collars in stock as of 10 mins ago...one part closer to finishing my mod1
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IN, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2021 9:46:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/220444/20210109_162939_2_jpg-1771958.JPG I have been searching for an ace socom stock every day for over a year, seen several wrong generation models. and missed 2 accurate ones that popped up in a YEAR. however, i just want to thank you because this post gave me the courage to just go ahead with my CTR and stop holding the project up! :) |
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Posted: 1/12/2021 11:23:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By oneofus: I have been searching for an ace socom stock every day for over a year, seen several wrong generation models. and missed 2 accurate ones that popped up in a YEAR. however, i just want to thank you because this post gave me the courage to just go ahead with my CTR and stop holding the project up! :) I hate it but I just listed one in the EE. ACE SOCOM Gen 1 |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 12:31:57 PM EDT
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What buffer for mod h?
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Posted: 1/13/2021 12:34:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: What buffer for mod h? I use a heavy, but know someone that uses H2 |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 12:52:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kmcale: I use a heavy, but know someone that uses H2 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kmcale: Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: What buffer for mod h? I use a heavy, but know someone that uses H2 I've been using an H2 with my Douglas barrel and it shoots nice but is throwing brass to 4:30+ when clean and lubed. Also getting like no gas to face. I'm thinking H may be more reliable when it gets sluggish. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 12:55:48 PM EDT
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I need to go find the ACE stock breakdown post again.
Remember kids, the Holland stocks are Gen 3. Solid gusset, threads for sling swivels, back of stock button is square cutout. Older gens have a reversible collar with built in sling loop, and some may have had the Gen 3 style gusset but a Gen 1 style stock with round button cutout. Surprised nobody has tried to buy the Gen 4 and the blank clamp gusset Doublestar sells and mod a Gen 3 clone stock yet, but I think the Gen 4 also has some changes to the stock body itself. That said, it might make for a much better stand-in for those not wanting to hunt an original down. I still don't get the pricing on these stocks btw, I got one NOS from Doublestar a year or two back and they even had an extra carbine tube laying around, I think I spent 160 shipped? But, then I cheated and got a legit takeoff stock so that one went to a new home and the rifle tube to someone building Nikiel09's style Holland. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:22:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kmcale]
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Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: I've been using an H2 with my Douglas barrel and it shoots nice but is throwing brass to 4:30+ when clean and lubed. Also getting like no gas to face. I'm thinking H may be more reliable when it gets sluggish. I havent had issue with the heavy, but I also havent shot it much.. Originally Posted By lancecriminal86: I need to go find the ACE stock breakdown post again. Remember kids, the Holland stocks are Gen 3. Solid gusset, threads for sling swivels, back of stock button is square cutout. Older gens have a reversible collar with built in sling loop, and some may have had the Gen 3 style gusset but a Gen 1 style stock with round button cutout. Surprised nobody has tried to buy the Gen 4 and the blank clamp gusset Doublestar sells and mod a Gen 3 clone stock yet, but I think the Gen 4 also has some changes to the stock body itself. That said, it might make for a much better stand-in for those not wanting to hunt an original down. I still don't get the pricing on these stocks btw, I got one NOS from Doublestar a year or two back and they even had an extra carbine tube laying around, I think I spent 160 shipped? But, then I cheated and got a legit takeoff stock so that one went to a new home and the rifle tube to someone building Nikiel09's style Holland. The one posted above is the square cutout on the reverse side of the button. The ACE I currently have is a Gen 1 with the round cutout, and sling loop on gusset. Just looking for parts to correct what I got. As for price, idk? Clone points? ETA: per the links provided below, the stock listed was a Gen 3 and not a Gen 1 |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:25:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86: I need to go find the ACE stock breakdown post again. Remember kids, the Holland stocks are Gen 3. Solid gusset, threads for sling swivels, back of stock button is square cutout. Older gens have a reversible collar with built in sling loop, and some may have had the Gen 3 style gusset but a Gen 1 style stock with round button cutout. Surprised nobody has tried to buy the Gen 4 and the blank clamp gusset Doublestar sells and mod a Gen 3 clone stock yet, but I think the Gen 4 also has some changes to the stock body itself. That said, it might make for a much better stand-in for those not wanting to hunt an original down. I still don't get the pricing on these stocks btw, I got one NOS from Doublestar a year or two back and they even had an extra carbine tube laying around, I think I spent 160 shipped? But, then I cheated and got a legit takeoff stock so that one went to a new home and the rifle tube to someone building Nikiel09's style Holland. was just looking at it last night page 71 of the Holland thread also the reply from Doublestar about the differences here on pg 25 I was going to order one of those gussets from Doublestar to do just that, but the serration on the base of the gen4 stocks always sticks out more to me than the button cuttout. I actually found a square button Gen 3 yesterday a guy has on an abortion of a 50ae AR. Made him an offer for just the stock but doesn't want to part it out 
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Posted: 1/13/2021 1:34:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheShlouf: was just looking at it last night page 71 of the Holland thread also the reply from Doublestar about the differences here on pg 25 I was going to order one of those gussets from Doublestar to do just that, but the serration on the base of the gen4 stocks always sticks out more to me than the button cuttout. I actually found a square button Gen 3 yesterday a guy has on an abortion of a 50ae AR. Made him an offer for just the stock but doesn't want to part it out If he's selling the whole gun might be worth it in upcoming political circumstances. I'm terrible at flipping stuff but I know some of y'all almost entirely fund your builds on finding good stuff and making enough on the EE to buy/trade for what you need. I know some guys in this thread have bought whole guns or scopes just to get rings or a front sight. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:45:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86: I need to go find the ACE stock breakdown post again. Remember kids, the Holland stocks are Gen 3. Solid gusset, threads for sling swivels, back of stock button is square cutout. Older gens have a reversible collar with built in sling loop, and some may have had the Gen 3 style gusset but a Gen 1 style stock with round button cutout. Surprised nobody has tried to buy the Gen 4 and the blank clamp gusset Doublestar sells and mod a Gen 3 clone stock yet, but I think the Gen 4 also has some changes to the stock body itself. That said, it might make for a much better stand-in for those not wanting to hunt an original down. I still don't get the pricing on these stocks btw, I got one NOS from Doublestar a year or two back and they even had an extra carbine tube laying around, I think I spent 160 shipped? But, then I cheated and got a legit takeoff stock so that one went to a new home and the rifle tube to someone building Nikiel09's style Holland. This is very helpful info. Am finishing up a Mod and moving to a mod H next. Had just started looking into the Ace stocks last night. Thanks! |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 2:46:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mstennes]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86: If he's selling the whole gun might be worth it in upcoming political circumstances. I'm terrible at flipping stuff but I know some of y'all almost entirely fund your builds on finding good stuff and making enough on the EE to buy/trade for what you need.I know some guys in this thread have bought whole guns or scopes just to get rings or a front sight. I’m glad I’m not the only one to have done that in the past.  |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 5:41:44 PM EDT
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I think i have the right ace gen 3 for a mod H, can anyone confirm? bought it off the EE about 2 years ago from one of you i think.
 
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Posted: 1/13/2021 5:42:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio: I think i have the right ace gen 3 for a mod H, can anyone confirm? bought it off the EE about 2 years ago from one of you i think. https://i.imgur.com/U2OJV8g.jpg https://i.imgur.com/JATN6aF.jpg That's the one |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 6:43:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio: I think i have the right ace gen 3 for a mod H, can anyone confirm? bought it off the EE about 2 years ago from one of you i think. https://i.imgur.com/U2OJV8g.jpg https://i.imgur.com/JATN6aF.jpg I don't want to admit it but that stock has kiiinda grown on me. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 7:40:47 PM EDT
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Alright. The mod H stuff has to stop. I only have cash to finish out my mod 1 and think about what to do with this second A1 receiver. I don’t need any help with ideas...
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Posted: 1/13/2021 7:47:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gremyashchy1911: Alright. The mod H stuff has to stop. I only have cash to finish out my mod 1 and think about what to do with this second A1 receiver. I don’t need any help with ideas... Mod 0 that shit |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 7:51:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/13/2021 7:57:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kmcale: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20210113_175119_jpg-1778091.JPG 
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Posted: 1/13/2021 8:32:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gremyashchy1911: Alright. The mod H stuff has to stop. I only have cash to finish out my mod 1 and think about what to do with this second A1 receiver. I don’t need any help with ideas... Mod H is best mod. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 8:56:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: Mod H is best mod.   |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 8:58:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheShlouf: Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: Mod H is best mod. https://i.imgur.com/d2uPmqw.jpg Your pics are some of my favs, especially the ones with dead animals. I really need a 3.5-10. |
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Posted: 1/13/2021 9:02:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kmcale]
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Mod H is alright. Theres just something about a good 0 that really hits the spot for me
(Gen 1 ACE will soon be replaced with correct Gen 3)  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 12:19:36 AM EDT
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Is PRI the only true clone correct barrel? Lots of great options out there I know, but I want the real deal contract barrel. My Rainier 1:8 Wylde just isn't clone enough for me anymore.
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Posted: 1/14/2021 12:30:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/14/2021 12:35:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: kmcale]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlueDevilBrew: Is PRI the only true clone correct barrel? Lots of great options out there I know, but I want the real deal contract barrel. My Rainier 1:8 Wylde just isn't clone enough for me anymore. Idk about contract barrel unless you're trying to get a take off.. I'd say get a CLE, HCS or PRI douglas and you'd be good to go ETA: I have HCS and CLE, both are excellent and would recommend to anybody. Kevin is great to deal with, and Frank/CLE customer service is top notch |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 12:58:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kmcale: Idk about contract barrel unless you're trying to get a take off.. I'd say get a CLE, HCS or PRI douglas and you'd be good to go ETA: I have HCS and CLE, both are excellent and would recommend to anybody. Kevin is great to deal with, and Frank/CLE customer service is top notch Thanks, I'll reach out to HCS to see what barrels they're using for their builds. They're not turning their own Douglas blanks right? I was going to pull the trigger on a CLE, but they have their own chamber that is slightly different than issued. Great barrel, and I might order one, but thought I'd confirm if there's an option with correct chamber spec. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 1:07:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: kmcale]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlueDevilBrew: Thanks, I'll reach out to HCS to see what barrels they're using for their builds. They're not turning their own Douglas blanks right? I was going to pull the trigger on a CLE, but they have their own chamber that is slightly different than issued. Great barrel, and I might order one, but thought I'd confirm if there's an option with correct chamber spec. HCS has a cool factor too, iirc, Kevin sold a number of his Mod 1s to Hollywood for use in the movie Lone Survivor. I dont know much of their production, when I ordered a few years ago I was told "blanks were sent off to Alan to be turned", makes it seem like they are contracted out. Be that as it may, it turned out great, get proper turns for the can, and 0 issues ~2k rounds later. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 1:48:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BlueDevilBrew: Is PRI the only true clone correct barrel? Lots of great options out there I know, but I want the real deal contract barrel. My Rainier 1:8 Wylde just isn't clone enough for me anymore. Douglas barrels was contracted, not because they the "best", but because they were good enough and able to provide the quantity needed in a timely fashion. White Oak Armament and Compass Lake Engineering profiles their barrels to SPR specs. ADCO Firearms will do the same installing the Ops Inc./Allen Engineering collars and muzzle brakes. Having shot lots of WOA and a few CLE barrels I can testify that they shoot lights out. Never seen a bad one yet. |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 5:09:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: edwin907]
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I've got CLE Krieger 18" SPR and 16" Recon lightweight profile barrels that are the best I have ever had/seen.
I get about 0.25 MOA POI shift straight down (6PM) with the 18" Mod0 when mounting the OPS 12th. I get ZERO MOA shift on the 16" when mounting the 12th. 4.5 to 5 turns with the suppressor on all (three including the Douglas). Both barrels are sub MOA @ 500+ meters with MK262 ammo. The Mod0 has never shot anything else. The 16" is also @ or near MOA with Hornady 75gr 223 or 5.56 T2 75gr. Both barrels were special ordered by Jason @ JTAC who supplied them to me years ago. The 18" was pre-broken in, the 16" needed about 120 to 150 rounds to settle in. My other Mod1 "ish" 18" is a Douglas. On a rare day the Krieger can outshoot it with me driving. I did say "rare." |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 6:56:47 PM EDT
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My Douglas barrel was a whore to find a load for, but now that I did, it shoots fantastic
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Posted: 1/14/2021 7:55:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Gremyashchy1911]
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I’ve thought about doing a Mod 0 or a Mod H in 6mm AR or 6.8 spc but I know that bars the rules of cloning. Running out of time to make up my mind and get a suppressor made tho. To me a Mod 0 looks best with the straight PRI tubes and those hard to find so I may do a Mod H as I’ve seen more of them with the Gen3 tubes. Correct me if I’m wrong.
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Posted: 1/14/2021 8:02:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gremyashchy1911: I’ve thought about doing a Mod 0 or a Mod H in 6mm AR or 6.8 spc but I know that bars the rules of cloning. Running out of time to make up my mind and get a suppressor made tho. To me a Mod 0 looks best with the straight PRI tubes and those hard to find so I may do a Mod H as I’ve seen more of them with the Gen3 tubes. Correct me if I’m wrong. You mean the old style gen 2 tubes? They show ample stock for all 3 colors at PRI right meow |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 8:05:23 PM EDT
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Does anyone have any tutorial or recommendations on how to get my lower to be more of the light colt grey color? I have a brn a1 and got it in grey but it’s still too dark to my liking
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Posted: 1/14/2021 8:08:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Engineer5]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gremyashchy1911: I’ve thought about doing a Mod 0 or a Mod H in 6mm AR or 6.8 spc but I know that bars the rules of cloning. Running out of time to make up my mind and get a suppressor made tho. To me a Mod 0 looks best with the straight PRI tubes and those hard to find so I may do a Mod H as I’ve seen more of them with the Gen3 tubes. Correct me if I’m wrong. Guys have done 6.8 and 6.5G's before and I'm sure others. Also PRI offers their "Retro" tubes. Which resemble the earlier versions. PRI "Retro" |
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Posted: 1/14/2021 8:09:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Engineer5]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bachn2324: Does anyone have any tutorial or recommendations on how to get my lower to be more of the light colt grey color? I have a brn a1 and got it in grey but it’s still too dark to my liking Krylon fixes all. 
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Posted: 1/14/2021 8:38:14 PM EDT
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Well I stand corrected. It’s been a while from the last time I looked at PRI stuff because I knew I would end up having to have one correct and we all know how much that’s gonna cost. But I guess if I’m not going to be full clone as far as caliber a “newer” old handguard wouldn’t be too bad.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:27:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Maglan]
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I have a 16” PRI SPR profile barrel that’s marked “PRI 1/8 1/17” under the handguard near the chamber, and “1/8D” near the muzzle. Does that mean it’s a Douglass blank?
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:27:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Maglan]
[#41]
Double post
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Posted: 1/15/2021 12:29:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Maglan]
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Triple post
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Posted: 1/15/2021 3:10:16 PM EDT
[#43]
I have two new in the package Mk12 slings from the dstepec run I’m posting tonight in the EE. Letting you guys have first choice. IM me if you’re interested.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 4:16:38 PM EDT
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I thought y'all might appreciate a heads up. I just posted my Leupold 112633 for sale in the EE.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 4:47:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Crunchy03: I thought y'all might appreciate a heads up. I just posted my Leupold 112633 for sale in the EE. (sighs in relief it wasn't a 3.5-10) |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 8:48:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: (sighs in relief it wasn't a 3.5-10) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: Originally Posted By Crunchy03: I thought y'all might appreciate a heads up. I just posted my Leupold 112633 for sale in the EE. (sighs in relief it wasn't a 3.5-10) |
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Posted: 1/15/2021 9:23:11 PM EDT
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Couldn’t bring myself to buy a set of ARMS rings for the mod1 so I put it on the H. I’m really digging it.
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Posted: 1/15/2021 11:05:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner63a: @UndrGrndPrdcts Why? Are looking for a 3.5-10x40 Illum Mk4? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner63a: Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: Originally Posted By Crunchy03: I thought y'all might appreciate a heads up. I just posted my Leupold 112633 for sale in the EE. (sighs in relief it wasn't a 3.5-10) Casually looking for a 3.5-10 for my H but don't really want to buy one right now. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 7:01:19 AM EDT
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Went and paid my transfer fee yesterday for my AEM5 and sent the paperwork off to silencer shop. Now the wait begins
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Posted: 1/16/2021 2:15:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unstabl: I have two new in the package Mk12 slings from the dstepec run I’m posting tonight in the EE. Letting you guys have first choice. IM me if you’re interested. @unstabl Payment and shipping info for one sent per our comms. Posting for feedback. Thanks! |
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