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Posted: 11/23/2020 7:41:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: Do you own a MAWL or other other item that mounts in a similar way that has a similar mass? If so, are you going to mount it over the gas block? If so, the smaller gas block would be better but there's no evidence it wouldn't happen. If not, why are you worried about it? I presume that the "problem" with the MK16 would happen with most if not all small diameter M-LOK rails. Would a 7075 Hodge fair better? Maybe. Does it matter in the real world? Nothing has came out about it from USASOC. The only way to know for sure if one rail is better than another is if a third party did independent standardized testing. I'm totally up for this but I can't afford to buy a bunch of rails just to smash them up. Even with a ton of data from drop tests, it wouldn't tell you what is good enough only what is best. agreed. Im just gonna get it. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 11:37:49 PM EDT
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None are being returned to me for bent rails.
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Posted: 11/24/2020 12:59:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: None are being returned to me for bent rails. CD 
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Posted: 11/24/2020 8:34:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jamesk777: Great point. Guess im gonna take the gamble. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jamesk777: Originally Posted By india13c: Well, considering they’re in use, without a lot of complaints I’d say they work. We have SF armorers saying they’ve had little to no rails returned for bending. They also said they’ve heard guys say they like them. I’d be stunned beyond belief if these dudes were still running rails that had an issue and couldn’t hit their targets. I mean, just think about that one for a minute. If these rails bent on a regular basis and caused a loss of zero then don’t you think the guys that can get whatever they want would drop them in a heartbeat? I do. Great point. Guess im gonna take the gamble. I don’t see how it’s a gamble, I built one when the rails were first available out side of complete uppers from Brownells. I built it using a non chamfered MK12 gas block and it’s what, one or two years old now? It’s been my go to rifle around the property, and goes coyote hunting all the time. It’s been banged up, tossed around, and I have had zero issues. Granted it doesn’t have a MAWL, or really any other addons, but my point is simple, it works, I’m not in combat, and if for some reason it does get bent, well I’ll deal with it then, until then, I’m enjoying it much more than my Block 2. |
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Posted: 11/24/2020 3:40:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jamesk777: Can anyone verify if the smaller gas block solves this issue? Any active duty guys with these who can vouch for the MK16? I'm picking it up friday night but would love some affirmation on my buy LOL. I plan on using this rifle for SHTF scenario(very real threat now). Turns out Bill Geissele himself said he recommends the MK2 if you dont want a bendy rail(What the heck?). Yet our military is fielding this? I am so torn lol. I also have the option of buying a URX4. Anyone have one? Get the MK16, if you don't like it I will buy it. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 11/24/2020 5:27:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver: None are being returned to me for bent rails. CD Thank you for the update and thank you for your service. To everyone else, you guys have been highly informative and i'm picking it up friday. Will upload pics when the build is done. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 11/24/2020 6:18:53 PM EDT
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Anybody know of any retailers that have mk16 rails and ach’s in stock? Just ordered two psa m4a1 lowers for a block 2 and urg-I builds. Tia
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GA, USA
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Posted: 11/24/2020 8:55:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheBrokePilot: Anybody know of any retailers that have mk16 rails and ach’s in stock? Just ordered two psa m4a1 lowers for a block 2 and urg-I builds. Tia I'm getting mine locally. It is sold out completely online from what I can tell. |
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Posted: 11/24/2020 9:38:45 PM EDT
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Whatever you do when searching for a mk16 or urg-i, stay away from Charlies Custom clones.
They will take your money, and maybe ship you an incorrect upper 1 year later. Maybe. |
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Posted: 11/24/2020 10:01:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5pt56]
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio: Whatever you do when searching for a mk16 or urg-i, stay away from Charlies Custom clones. They will take your money, and maybe ship you an incorrect upper 1 year later. Maybe. 1000% this! ^^^ And when you cancel your order within their policy they will take over 6 months and have literally every excuse under the sun to refund your money. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 11/25/2020 2:02:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio: Whatever you do when searching for a mk16 or urg-i, stay away from Charlies Custom clones. They will take your money, and maybe ship you an incorrect upper 1 year later. Maybe. Thank you for the info!! |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 11/25/2020 2:24:29 PM EDT
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Yeah I’ve heard a lot of bad stuff about Charlie’s. They usually have much higher prices than everyone else too.
It’s a bummer the 13.5 mk16 is sold out everywhere and the only rails/uppers I can find on my local forum have 9.5 rails. |
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Posted: 11/27/2020 7:38:53 AM EDT
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I guess I'll tag since this is my next build, whenever I can get parts.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/28/2020 2:20:54 AM EDT
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Got lucky and picked up a second URGI near clone the other day...one randomly popped up on gunbroker. Keep looking, they're still out there. Albeit at ridiculous prices.
My first one wears a T2, second one will soon have a Razor 1-6. |
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Posted: 11/28/2020 6:48:01 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio: Whatever you do when searching for a mk16 or urg-i, stay away from Charlies Custom clones. They will take your money, and maybe ship you an incorrect upper 1 year later. Maybe. Shipping was a week, this was when the came out and mine was $838. Guess I was just lucky. |
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Posted: 11/28/2020 7:00:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
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Quote Historyhttps://www.primaryarms.com/geissele-automatics-super-modular-rail-mk16-mlok-ddc-15in |
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Posted: 11/28/2020 7:02:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7: Didn't know they made a 15" MK16 https://www.primaryarms.com/geissele-automatics-super-modular-rail-mk16-mlok-ddc-15in Used on the 16” full guns... |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 11/29/2020 8:56:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AKSU]
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio: Whatever you do when searching for a mk16 or urg-i, stay away from Charlies Custom clones. They will take your money, and maybe ship you an incorrect upper 1 year later. Maybe. I bought a KAC MP5 RAS from them when no one else had them in stock. Their price was around $100 more than other retailers but they had them. Two weeks passed before I received a shipping notification. I feel lucky now after reading your post. |
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Posted: 11/30/2020 12:20:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKSU: I bought a KAC MP5 RAS from them when no one else had them in stock. Their price was around $100 more than other retailers but they had them. Two weeks passed before I received a shipping notification. I feel lucky now after reading your post. That’s why they have stuff in stock when no one else does, they charge on average$100.00 more for everything. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/30/2020 9:47:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JohnnyUtah427]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKSU: I bought a KAC MP5 RAS from them when no one else had them in stock. Their price was around $100 more than other retailers but they had them. Two weeks passed before I received a shipping notification. I feel lucky now after reading your post. Consider yourself lucky you received anything at all. Someone there must have felt like a decent and honest person that day. |
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Posted: 11/30/2020 1:21:41 PM EDT
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Hey y’all, what would be considered a good price for clone correct URG-I? Looking at getting another one, and I haven’t really been tracking the going-ons with current availability.
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Posted: 12/1/2020 1:49:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By billytehbob: Hey y'all, what would be considered a good price for clone correct URG-I? Looking at getting another one, and I haven't really been tracking the going-ons with current availability. If you by it separately that's about what you will have in it. |
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Posted: 12/1/2020 2:17:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: billytehbob]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7: With Colt upper/BCG, DD gasblock, ACH and SF 4 prong? $1500 or more. If you by it separately that's about what you will have in it. I wasn’t sure if it’d be that easy, since a quick search didn’t see too much of the MK16 stuff sitting around for long. But, I was able to pick up one of the near clones for just under a grand, so a little less had I been able to buy direct from G, think I’ll be happy with it. Or maybe I’ll change the block 
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Posted: 12/1/2020 2:26:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By billytehbob: I wasn’t sure if it’d be that easy, since a quick search didn’t see too much of the MK16 stuff sitting around for long. But, I was able to pick up one of the near clones for just under a grand, so a little less had I been able to buy direct from G, think I’ll be happy with it. Or maybe I’ll change the block You have to buy the entire barrel assembly to get the proper low profile gas block. |
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Posted: 12/1/2020 9:12:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2: Used on the 16” full guns... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2: Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7: Didn't know they made a 15" MK16 https://www.primaryarms.com/geissele-automatics-super-modular-rail-mk16-mlok-ddc-15in Used on the 16” full guns... That particular rail was only available on Duty URGs in black until just now. The Super Duty rail isn't a true MK16. The only MK16 that's been issued so far is the 13.5". Maybe a few COTS or testing of the 9.3" and the 10.5" is supposedly in the pipeline. |
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Posted: 12/1/2020 11:35:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane: You have to buy the entire barrel assembly to get the proper low profile gas block. Oh, damn, I see that now, I wrongly assumed it was a regular MK12 
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Posted: 12/5/2020 5:17:34 PM EDT
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Finally got the scope. Vortex Razor 1-10 with MOA BDC reticle in a Geissele hyperextended mount.
BUIS will go back on once I get the rear. I had a Matech but it doesn’t fit under the scope. I’m swapping it for a KAC 300M. I might pick up a Trijicon HRS RMR and mount it with a Reptilia ring mount. Otherwise it’s pretty much done.    
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Posted: 12/6/2020 12:01:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: Finally got the scope. Vortex Razor 1-10 with MOA BDC reticle in a Geissele hyperextended mount. BUIS will go back on once I get the rear. I had a Matech but it doesn't fit under the scope. I'm swapping it for a KAC 300M. I might pick up a Trijicon HRS RMR and mount it with a Reptilia ring mount. Otherwise it's pretty much done. https://i.imgur.com/rsuvlmA.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qTGR7Xj.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Yi9MzUl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EVtG0Mk.jpg That Vortex is sexy Well done  |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 12/6/2020 11:11:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio: Whatever you do when searching for a mk16 or urg-i, stay away from Charlies Custom clones. They will take your money, and maybe ship you an incorrect upper 1 year later. Maybe. Please don't do business with them. Ordered a URGI from them with a WARCOMP and got a 4-Prong instead. Took months to get my refund and return label and excuse after excuse for why it took so long. It should not take months for a return label when THEY screwed up my order. |
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Posted: 12/6/2020 11:48:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MInurse: Please don't do business with them. Ordered a URGI from them with a WARCOMP and got a 4-Prong instead. Took months to get my refund and return label and excuse after excuse for why it took so long. It should not take months for a return label when THEY screwed up my order. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MInurse: Originally Posted By JLAudio: Whatever you do when searching for a mk16 or urg-i, stay away from Charlies Custom clones. They will take your money, and maybe ship you an incorrect upper 1 year later. Maybe. Please don't do business with them. Ordered a URGI from them with a WARCOMP and got a 4-Prong instead. Took months to get my refund and return label and excuse after excuse for why it took so long. It should not take months for a return label when THEY screwed up my order. If you paid for a WARCOMP and got a 4 prong, you shouldn't have said anything. |
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Posted: 12/7/2020 12:01:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: If you paid for a WARCOMP and got a 4 prong, you shouldn't have said anything. Straight up wish every company would make that mistake for me |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 12/7/2020 6:33:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: If you paid for a WARCOMP and got a 4 prong, you shouldn't have said anything. That's not the point, but alright. Not all of us like the 4-prongs |
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Posted: 12/7/2020 6:44:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MInurse: That's not the point, but alright. Not all of us like the 4-prongs Its not that, its worth like 3 warcomps. So you could of came up on top a bit haha |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 12/7/2020 7:07:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 100roundclipazine: Its not that, its worth like 3 warcomps. So you could of came up on top a bit haha Well, at the time it was coming pinned and welded. |
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Posted: 12/7/2020 7:08:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MInurse: Well, at the time it was coming pinned and welded. Quite lame, in that case |
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USA
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Posted: 12/7/2020 12:12:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: Finally got the scope. Vortex Razor 1-10 with MOA BDC reticle in a Geissele hyperextended mount. BUIS will go back on once I get the rear. I had a Matech but it doesn’t fit under the scope. I’m swapping it for a KAC 300M. I might pick up a Trijicon HRS RMR and mount it with a Reptilia ring mount. Otherwise it’s pretty much done. https://i.imgur.com/rsuvlmA.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qTGR7Xj.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Yi9MzUl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EVtG0Mk.jpg Looks great man! |
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Posted: 12/7/2020 5:10:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bChau]
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Here's my 11.5" in its current configuration.
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Posted: 12/7/2020 5:17:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bChau: Here's my 11.5" in its current configuration.
https://i.imgur.com/ldoo9fI.jpg  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/7/2020 7:09:23 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bChau: Here's my 11.5" in its current configuration.
https://i.imgur.com/ldoo9fI.jpg 10/10 perfect clone! Please post more pics! |
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Posted: 12/8/2020 3:56:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bChau]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vapor-Trail: 10/10 perfect clone! Please post more pics! I've changed some parts around since that photo. Here's how it sits as of today.    Swapped some parts:
At some point I'll do a 14.5" URGI, but probably not any time soon, that one doesn't interest me as much. |
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Posted: 12/8/2020 6:25:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bChau: Thanks! I've changed some parts around since that photo. Here's how it sits as of today. https://i.imgur.com/ph41lsA.jpg https://i.imgur.com/3OH1UXA.jpg https://i.imgur.com/o3sL4c5.jpg Swapped some parts:
At some point I'll do a 14.5" URGI, but probably not any time soon, that one doesn't interest me as much. Your photos have pushed me over the edge to start piecing together an 11.5” URGI to go with my 14.5”. I’ve got the lower already stamped (a McKay that’s not currently being used) and just snagged a new MSI CAGE code marked upper receiver to use. I’m going to order the barrel direct from Daniel Defense and will eventually track down a 10.5” MK16. I think I’m going to go with an EXPS3-0 for the optic but I’m not 100% sure yet. Going to pace myself on this build, still have to recover from buying the Razor 1-10 for the 14.5”.  |
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Posted: 12/8/2020 6:32:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: Your photos have pushed me over the edge to start piecing together an 11.5” URGI to go with my 14.5”. I’ve got the lower already stamped (a McKay that’s not currently being used) and just snagged a new MSI CAGE code marked upper receiver to use. I’m going to order the barrel direct from Daniel Defense and will eventually track down a 10.5” MK16. I think I’m going to go with an EXPS3-0 for the optic but I’m not 100% sure yet. Going to pace myself on this build, still have to recover from buying the Razor 1-10 for the 14.5”. I think I saw a MK16 in the EE 
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Posted: 12/8/2020 7:15:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pezboytate]
[#43]
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Posted: 12/8/2020 7:42:58 PM EDT
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Irons are back on. A Matech will not fit under the Vortex 1-10 with a standard 1.54 height mount. Found that out the hard way. Swapped it for a full-size KAC 300M which fits with no problem. Also put the sling back on, a Blue Force Gear VCAS in Multicam Arid.
  
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Posted: 12/8/2020 8:28:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: Irons are back on. A Matech will not fit under the Vortex 1-10 with a standard 1.54 height mount. Found that out the hard way. Swapped it for a full-size KAC 300M which fits with no problem. Also put the sling back on, a Blue Force Gear VCAS in Multicam Arid. https://i.imgur.com/AM5hVRN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/AwoEwZh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/au978qL.jpg Interesting. I'm digging the hyper extended mount, your setup is pretty much how I like. |
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Posted: 12/8/2020 10:21:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: Interesting. I'm digging the hyper extended mount, your setup is pretty much how I like. For me the hyperextended mount is a necessity. I typically shoot nose to charging handle. I’m also used to the short eye relief of 4x ACOG’s and Elcan’s. All of that makes it feel very awkward to shoot a longer eye relief scope without a pretty extended mount. With this set up I’m not quite nose to charging handle but pretty close to it. I just wish Geissele did one in 1.70 height. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 12/8/2020 10:38:53 PM EDT
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Optics Planet(I know) has 3 DD 14.5 mid, gov profile barrels with their low profile gas block in stock. They’re a little more than some other places but claim to actually be in stock. https://www.opticsplanet.com/ddf-0707709173018-barrel-5-56-16.html?_iv_code=DDD-BRI-DDNTGV-07-077-07308
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Posted: 12/8/2020 11:06:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheBrokePilot: Optics Planet(I know) has 3 DD 14.5 mid, gov profile barrels with their low profile gas block in stock. They’re a little more than some other places but claim to actually be in stock. https://www.opticsplanet.com/ddf-0707709173018-barrel-5-56-16.html?_iv_code=DDD-BRI-DDNTGV-07-077-07308 Also, sign up for the notification from Daniel Defense. The barrels seem to come back in stock pretty regularly. |
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Posted: 12/9/2020 12:45:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: Also, sign up for the notification from Daniel Defense. The barrels seem to come back in stock pretty regularly. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: Originally Posted By TheBrokePilot: Optics Planet(I know) has 3 DD 14.5 mid, gov profile barrels with their low profile gas block in stock. They're a little more than some other places but claim to actually be in stock. https://www.opticsplanet.com/ddf-0707709173018-barrel-5-56-16.html?_iv_code=DDD-BRI-DDNTGV-07-077-07308 Also, sign up for the notification from Daniel Defense. The barrels seem to come back in stock pretty regularly. I wish Geissele parts were in stock regularly as well. |
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Posted: 12/9/2020 12:47:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By wayfaerer320: I wish Geissele parts were in stock regularly as well. I wish they had back in stock notifications. |
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