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Posted: 1/16/2019 4:39:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whoanelly:
His company has to sell stuff, not cater to people who want exclusive items to post on their instagram pages. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 5:56:12 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By whoanelly:
His company has to sell stuff, not cater to people who want exclusive items to post on their instagram pages. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/16/2019 6:27:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: fubar1217]
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: He's damned if he does and damned if he don't. People were asking for individual rails for sale from day 1. Folks were buying URGI uppers and gutting them for the Mk16. People asked for clone uppers. I ain't saying G has been perfect but he's at least listened to his customer base which is a lot more than can be said about many manufacturers. For BF the Mk16 was available and they had TONS of stock and were kind enough to prevent re sellers from hoarding the product and flipping. Now he's offering a complete rifle which is a step above the URGI. As of right now the Mk16 is still exclusive because you could/can only acquire 3 ways. 1. URGI 2. Black Friday sale 3. Complete rifle in the near future I can't fault the man for delivering and offering a product if the demand is there. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 6:43:52 PM EDT
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Lol Geissele can't seem to win lately. Everyone just complains either way.
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Posted: 1/16/2019 6:46:22 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio:
Well this thread is about to blow up LOL. Bill just showed Mk16 DDC and ODG complete rifles coming to the civy market on the live stream. Looks like these rails are going to be released outside of mil or clone configs, and will be in wider circulation that ever anticipated. That kind of bums me out since I thought that the Mk16 rails would be in the clone category. Side note that green mk16 complete 10.3 cqbr he showed was super good looking, like wow good looking. |
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Posted: 1/16/2019 7:52:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: I don't get the complaint. There is always the risk of something no longer being exclusive. You buy early, you're paying the premium to be one of the first. You ensure that you have it in hand in case they stop manufacturing it or change. You also run the risk of it being mass produced later on and driving prices down. Just part of the game. KAC had the vault release last year which killed prices on out of production rails and accessories. The Mk16 rail was $395 with the charging handle correct? Call it a $100 charging handle and the rail is under $300. Look at the DD RIS II which was over $400 when it was available. Decade old FF RAS from KAC are still north of $300. I saw value in the package. I just don't get the idea of being "exclusive". I want the best gear available. And I welcome companies who even provide the opportunity to own the same gear being fielded by the military because they could've told us to fuck off like a bunch of other companies. No good deed goes unpunished. Paid $838 for mine which seemed a fair price for having a new release upper. Had a few extra Warcomp's and BCGs in my parts box, no need to blow the extra cash for a so called clone correct upper. I figured with no pics in the wild there was no way to know the final configuration, looks like I made the right call. With all that said I still like the looks of the upper/rail, barrel is accurate enough for my needs and I have no regrets. |
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Posted: 1/17/2019 4:54:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Rhinowso96]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VIP3R:
Lol Geissele can't seem to win lately. Everyone just complains either way. Personally I'm glad Geissele Automatics is thriving - but with expansion comes some growing pains, be they real or perceived. IMO he has tried to bend over backwards but has learned that you are never going to please everyone, especially the cloners. Hopefully that has centered him on putting quality stuff out for LEOs, Military, and civilians. Let the cloners scramble around trying to have a safe full of 'correct' guns for their heirs to sell off cheap. ;) |
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Posted: 1/28/2019 8:50:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee: Easily. I could build that upper for $800 or so if I went PSA FN CHF middy. That's actually my plan for my next build. Colt upper Colt BCG DD 14.5 barrel Geissele Airborne CH Geissele gas block (pinned) Geissele Mk14 rail Smith Vortex G6A3 (pinned/welded by Retro Arms) Close enough for me 
Does anyone know if the majority of these will be going on Colt or FN lowers? 
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Posted: 1/28/2019 9:24:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dubya3: I just built "pretty much" the same upper for under $785, and the only part that isnt brand new is the barrel (~500rds). Colt upper Colt BCG DD 14.5 barrel Geissele Airborne CH Geissele gas block (pinned) Geissele Mk14 rail Smith Vortex G6A3 (pinned/welded by Retro Arms) Close enough for me
Does anyone know if the majority of these will be going on Colt or FN lowers? http://i.imgur.com/vr8vxwF.jpg |
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Posted: 1/28/2019 9:32:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Tim_in_CO]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joglee: There's a chance none of them will ever make it to anything and the RIS II will soldier on for a time. Do you have anything of value to add to this thread? I'm glad to see Geissele continuing to innovate and grow as an American manufacturer, I hope they can continue to develop new products with the feedback they have received. |
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Posted: 1/28/2019 9:34:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tim_in_CO: There's also a chance HK will become an industry partner and have an official representative on this site. Do you have anything of value to add to this thread? I'm glad to see Geissele continuing to innovate and grow as an American manufacturer, I hope they can continue to develop new products with the feedback they have received. That first one gave me a giggle |
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Posted: 1/29/2019 10:15:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dubya3: I just built "pretty much" the same upper for under $785, and the only part that isnt brand new is the barrel (~500rds). Colt upper Colt BCG DD 14.5 barrel Geissele Airborne CH Geissele gas block (pinned) Geissele Mk14 rail Smith Vortex G6A3 (pinned/welded by Retro Arms) Close enough for me
Does anyone know if the majority of these will be going on Colt or FN lowers? http://i.imgur.com/vr8vxwF.jpg
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Posted: 1/29/2019 12:49:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tim_in_CO: There's also a chance HK will become an industry partner and have an official representative on this site. Do you have anything of value to add to this thread? I'm glad to see Geissele continuing to innovate and grow as an American manufacturer, I hope they can continue to develop new products with the feedback they have received. Still the gov bought 5500 rails If what has been posted on the net is true,@$400 a rail that's over 2 million dollars. That's some good cheddar for a new gov contract. Still just scuttlebutt rumors, I figure it will be months before any verifiable news will come out. |
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Posted: 1/29/2019 3:19:32 PM EDT
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The plot thickens...
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Posted: 1/29/2019 4:01:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VIP3R:
The You guys take this drama way to seriously. The MK16 rail is the flagship rail for the new Geissle Civ rifles. 
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Posted: 1/29/2019 6:55:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tim_in_CO:
There's also a chance HK will become an industry partner and have an official representative on this site. Do you have anything of value to add to this thread? I'm glad to see Geissele continuing to innovate and grow as an American manufacturer, I hope they can continue to develop new products with the feedback they have received. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tim_in_CO:
Originally Posted By joglee: There's a chance none of them will ever make it to anything and the RIS II will soldier on for a time. Do you have anything of value to add to this thread? I'm glad to see Geissele continuing to innovate and grow as an American manufacturer, I hope they can continue to develop new products with the feedback they have received. |
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Posted: 1/29/2019 7:14:40 PM EDT
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Does the stripped upper include a pinned gas block?
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Posted: 1/29/2019 8:11:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lemonyvince:
Does the stripped upper include a pinned gas block? |
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Posted: 1/29/2019 9:26:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
fixed You guys take this drama way to seriously. The MK16 rail is the flagship rail for the new Geissle Civ rifles. https://i2.wp.com/www.firearmrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Super-Duty-Rifle.jpg?resize=660%2C371&ssl=1 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Originally Posted By VIP3R:
The You guys take this drama way to seriously. The MK16 rail is the flagship rail for the new Geissle Civ rifles. https://i2.wp.com/www.firearmrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Super-Duty-Rifle.jpg?resize=660%2C371&ssl=1 |
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Posted: 1/29/2019 9:32:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
fixed You guys take this drama way to seriously. The MK16 rail is the flagship rail for the new Geissle Civ rifles. https://i2.wp.com/www.firearmrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Super-Duty-Rifle.jpg?resize=660%2C371&ssl=1 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Originally Posted By VIP3R:
The You guys take this drama way to seriously. The MK16 rail is the flagship rail for the new Geissle Civ rifles. https://i2.wp.com/www.firearmrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Super-Duty-Rifle.jpg?resize=660%2C371&ssl=1 
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Posted: 1/29/2019 9:49:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dlm1984]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
That's it. Its the retirement home for you gramps. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Originally Posted By VIP3R:
The You guys take this drama way to seriously. The MK16 rail is the flagship rail for the new Geissle Civ rifles. https://i2.wp.com/www.firearmrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Super-Duty-Rifle.jpg?resize=660%2C371&ssl=1  He needs to buy that MAWL first, though! There are times where I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry at some of the drama in here. Sure, Bill did miss his 10 day window, but in my experience, things almost always take longer than expected. Given their track record, I'm not going lose my mind and grasp at straws until more actual information comes out. |
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Posted: 1/29/2019 10:00:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dlm1984:
He needs a second retirement home? Must be living the high life! He needs to buy that MAWL first, though! There are times where I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry at some of the drama in here. Sure, Bill did miss his 10 day window, but in my experience, things almost always take longer than expected. Given their track record, I'm not going lose my mind and grasp at straws until more actual information comes out. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dlm1984:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Originally Posted By VIP3R:
The You guys take this drama way to seriously. The MK16 rail is the flagship rail for the new Geissle Civ rifles. https://i2.wp.com/www.firearmrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Super-Duty-Rifle.jpg?resize=660%2C371&ssl=1 He needs to buy that MAWL first, though! There are times where I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry at some of the drama in here. Sure, Bill did miss his 10 day window, but in my experience, things almost always take longer than expected. Given their track record, I'm not going lose my mind and grasp at straws until more actual information comes out. |
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Posted: 1/30/2019 6:50:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: dlm1984]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
I don't think your bossman will address it to be honest with you. Too much at stake, and I think he would have done it by now. But its sort of just oh well to me at this point. Just glad Neil's suit is over and done with Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By dlm1984:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Originally Posted By VIP3R:
The You guys take this drama way to seriously. The MK16 rail is the flagship rail for the new Geissle Civ rifles. https://i2.wp.com/www.firearmrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Super-Duty-Rifle.jpg?resize=660%2C371&ssl=1 He needs to buy that MAWL first, though! There are times where I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry at some of the drama in here. Sure, Bill did miss his 10 day window, but in my experience, things almost always take longer than expected. Given their track record, I'm not going lose my mind and grasp at straws until more actual information comes out. 
You seem to have a good bit of information about the program and obviously know Neil, so you might be correct. Guess we'll have to wait and see... 
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Posted: 1/30/2019 11:13:03 AM EDT
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Top: Geissele "clone correct" on a Colt M4 lower.
Bottom: Colt Upper, Colt Socom 14.5, Colt M4 lower. 
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Posted: 1/30/2019 11:28:52 AM EDT
[#25]
Uncle sugar ain't paying $400 per rail.. Just sayin'... 😉
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Still the gov bought 5500 rails If what has been posted on the net is true,@$400 a rail that's over 2 million dollars. That's some good cheddar for a new gov contract. |
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Posted: 1/30/2019 8:01:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
That's it. Its the retirement home for you gramps.  @MILSPEC556 |
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Posted: 1/30/2019 8:04:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dlm1984:
He needs a second retirement home? Must be living the high life! He needs to buy that MAWL first, though! There are times where I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry at some of the drama in here. Sure, Bill did miss his 10 day window, but in my experience, things almost always take longer than expected. Given their track record, I'm not going lose my mind and grasp at straws until more actual information comes out. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dlm1984:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Originally Posted By VIP3R:
The You guys take this drama way to seriously. The MK16 rail is the flagship rail for the new Geissle Civ rifles. https://i2.wp.com/www.firearmrack.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Super-Duty-Rifle.jpg?resize=660%2C371&ssl=1 He needs to buy that MAWL first, though! There are times where I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry at some of the drama in here. Sure, Bill did miss his 10 day window, but in my experience, things almost always take longer than expected. Given their track record, I'm not going lose my mind and grasp at straws until more actual information comes out. Too cold to shoot at night anyways right now, my cane might slip on the ice
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Posted: 1/30/2019 8:17:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: That doesn't mean there isn't a problem with the issued URG-Is or MK16.
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Posted: 1/30/2019 8:24:11 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
I want one, but I just bought a RMR for my glock and its time to add some handguns to the stable. I have 10 ARs and 16 lowers, so time to add some handguns to the collection. To cold to shoot at night anyways right now, my cane might slip on the ice , Lol, Up here in Avery County we about to be at -30 tomorrow from what Ray's Weather is telling me, its about to be record setting cold, hope you are ready! Hope you get out to play with your cool retirement toys before the sun goes down!
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Posted: 1/30/2019 8:32:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InfamousAK: As A Fellow NC Resident, can I have those sixteen lowers if your cane fails you and you slip on ice? , Lol, Up here in Avery County we about to be at -30 tomorrow from what Ray's Weather is telling me, its about to be record setting cold, hope you are ready! Hope you get out to play with your cool retirement toys before the sun goes down! got a few sticks caught in the drain elbow and to fix it i'm getting wet
The spillway is taking care of most of the drainage so it isn't too big of a deal, happens about once every 5-6 months. might have to bust some ice though
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Posted: 1/30/2019 8:34:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
If you can unclog the drain from my upper pond to my lower pond you can have one. got a few sticks caught in the drain elbow and to fix it i'm getting wet
The spillway is taking care of most of the drainage so it isn't too big of a deal, happens about once every 5-6 months. might have to bust some ice though Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Originally Posted By InfamousAK: As A Fellow NC Resident, can I have those sixteen lowers if your cane fails you and you slip on ice? , Lol, Up here in Avery County we about to be at -30 tomorrow from what Ray's Weather is telling me, its about to be record setting cold, hope you are ready! Hope you get out to play with your cool retirement toys before the sun goes down! got a few sticks caught in the drain elbow and to fix it i'm getting wet
The spillway is taking care of most of the drainage so it isn't too big of a deal, happens about once every 5-6 months. might have to bust some ice though |
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Posted: 1/30/2019 8:39:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
If you can unclog the drain from my upper pond to my lower pond you can have one. got a few sticks caught in the drain elbow and to fix it i'm getting wet
The spillway is taking care of most of the drainage so it isn't too big of a deal, happens about once every 5-6 months. might have to bust some ice though I will definitely work for a Lower don't tempt me lol. Nothing my swim suit from my surfing days in CA couldn't take care of lol and a large snake brush.
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Posted: 1/30/2019 9:19:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dlm1984: May I use explosives? lets not,Its too cold to put a new drain and dam in
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Posted: 1/30/2019 9:23:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InfamousAK: I'm an AR Whore I will definitely work for a Lower don't tempt me lol. Nothing my swim suit from my surfing days in CA couldn't take care of lol and a large snake brush. |
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Posted: 1/30/2019 9:34:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
lets not,Its too cold to put a new drain and dam in Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Originally Posted By dlm1984: May I use explosives? lets not,Its too cold to put a new drain and dam in "
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Posted: 1/30/2019 10:04:05 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dlm1984: Now it's my turn to tell YOU "You are no fun at all "
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Posted: 1/30/2019 11:51:39 PM EDT
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There is no social problem that cannot be solved by a suitable application of high explosives!
CD once a 18C long time ago............. |
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Posted: 1/31/2019 12:19:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
There is no social problem that cannot be solved by a suitable application of high explosives! CD once a 18C long time ago.............
Will you guys quit with wanting to Dam bust my pond already That's also my 100m range between the two ponds, the part the drain goes under is right behind me
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Posted: 1/31/2019 9:01:32 PM EDT
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Hey you bastards
This is really the only thread I have been part of where people have personality, I like you guys here Dont want to get off-topic with the URG-I theme but could someone inbox me. I need help with selecting an optic for a MK12 build Its not a clone build, its a DD MK12 upper on a Colt lower w/ Geissle trigger. Wanting to buy the optic and bipod tomorrow, have a few options and would love professional feedback Budget, brand, FFP vs SFP, etc |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 11:14:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
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Posted: 2/3/2019 11:30:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/3/2019 11:31:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GoatBoy]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Not a USASOC gun but don't ask me who was using it down range today. CD 
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Posted: 2/3/2019 11:55:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: GoatBoy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Not a USASOC gun but don't ask me who was using it down range today. CD |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 12:13:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By InfamousAK: Contractor, or SAD/CIA, could even be MI5! You don't have to confirm or deny! |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 12:27:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By imdBman:
Silly! It was ANA or ANP😁 |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 12:43:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: C6H12O6]
[#46]
Awesome to see a G rail in the wild, but that rollmark...
 Attached FileInteresting that the anti-rotation is likely incorporated into the upper rather than on the sides like many of us bought Black Friday. |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 1:25:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By C6H12O6:
Awesome to see a G rail in the wild, but that rollmark...
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/123535/2D2241E8-C880-4261-987F-04C1029613C3_jpeg-831622.JPG Interesting that the anti-rotation is likely incorporated into the upper rather than on the sides like many of us bought Black Friday. CD |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 1:40:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GoatBoy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Not a USASOC gun but don't ask me who was using it down range today. CD Wonder why they didn't have a suppressor for his URG-I? |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 2:35:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GoatBoy]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Not a USASOC gun but don't ask me who was using it down range today. CD trigger? magnifier? laser? |
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Posted: 2/3/2019 3:17:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate:
Clone parts: trigger? magnifier? laser? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate:
Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Not a USASOC gun but don't ask me who was using it down range today. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_6554_jpg-831551.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_6555_jpg-831552.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_6556_jpg-831554.JPG CD trigger? magnifier? laser? |
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