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Posted: 12/3/2021 9:29:43 AM EDT
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Brownells has OD federal rails in stock right now
Code RTC for an extra $30 off for a short time |
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Posted: 12/7/2021 6:23:21 PM EDT
[#2]
received the federal rail today, disappointed to see the sling swivel insert in there
flash  vs no flash  color is good |
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Posted: 12/7/2021 6:52:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YardDogOne: received the federal rail today, disappointed to see the sling swivel insert in there flash https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1286/E800B8CC-E1BF-4F74-84B8-6EACA2389B0D-2195679.jpg vs no flash https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1286/E3632301-8879-40A5-8407-48D08A61A179-2195678.jpg color is good Is it a anti-rotation qd insert? |
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Posted: 12/7/2021 7:34:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YardDogOne: received the federal rail today, disappointed to see the sling swivel insert in there flash https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1286/E800B8CC-E1BF-4F74-84B8-6EACA2389B0D-2195679.jpg vs no flash https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1286/E3632301-8879-40A5-8407-48D08A61A179-2195678.jpg color is good Is there an insert in the forward points also? |
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Posted: 12/7/2021 8:16:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: Is there an insert in the forward points also? Guessing not as they’d interfere with mounting accessories. I actually really like the looks of the insert. Lack of steel inserts has been my biggest gripe with Geissele rails. |
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Posted: 12/7/2021 9:55:38 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FONTY: Is it a anti-rotation qd insert? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FONTY: Originally Posted By YardDogOne: received the federal rail today, disappointed to see the sling swivel insert in there flash https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1286/E800B8CC-E1BF-4F74-84B8-6EACA2389B0D-2195679.jpg vs no flash https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1286/E3632301-8879-40A5-8407-48D08A61A179-2195678.jpg color is good Is it a anti-rotation qd insert? yeah but I thought my others were fine without, I guess I'll get used to it |
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Posted: 12/7/2021 11:41:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YardDogOne: received the federal rail today, disappointed to see the sling swivel insert in there flash https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1286/E800B8CC-E1BF-4F74-84B8-6EACA2389B0D-2195679.jpg vs no flash https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1286/E3632301-8879-40A5-8407-48D08A61A179-2195678.jpg color is good So I guess we are on Gen 3 now… |
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Posted: 12/8/2021 3:05:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YardDogOne: received the federal rail today, disappointed to see the sling swivel insert in there flash https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1286/E800B8CC-E1BF-4F74-84B8-6EACA2389B0D-2195679.jpg vs no flash https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1286/E3632301-8879-40A5-8407-48D08A61A179-2195678.jpg color is good Wonder why they added that |
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Posted: 12/8/2021 4:22:30 AM EDT
[#9]
It’s a recent revision that’ll be rolling out to all rails.
Source Machined sockets in 6061 can eventually fail with heavy use. It’s rare but I’ve read about it happening more than once. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 6:07:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: spoonhead]
[#10]
I'm a bit confused as to the height of the Spuhr HRT mounts? Are they a lower 1/3 cowitness or just a little higher?
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Posted: 12/15/2021 6:45:32 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YardDogOne: received the federal rail today, disappointed to see the sling swivel insert in there flash https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1286/E800B8CC-E1BF-4F74-84B8-6EACA2389B0D-2195679.jpg vs no flash https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1286/E3632301-8879-40A5-8407-48D08A61A179-2195678.jpg color is good I think the insert looks sharp, I like it. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 8:26:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By YardDogOne: received the federal rail today, disappointed to see the sling swivel insert in there flash https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1286/E800B8CC-E1BF-4F74-84B8-6EACA2389B0D-2195679.jpg vs no flash https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1286/E3632301-8879-40A5-8407-48D08A61A179-2195678.jpg color is good Why? Now you don’t have to get a steel qd sling mount which clutters up the rail and adds weight |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 9:53:50 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iasc300ia: I think the insert looks sharp, I like it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iasc300ia: Originally Posted By YardDogOne: received the federal rail today, disappointed to see the sling swivel insert in there flash https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1286/E800B8CC-E1BF-4F74-84B8-6EACA2389B0D-2195679.jpg vs no flash https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1286/E3632301-8879-40A5-8407-48D08A61A179-2195678.jpg color is good I think the insert looks sharp, I like it. Agreed, I think it looks really good in addition to being practical. |
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Posted: 12/16/2021 9:19:09 AM EDT
[#14]
not a great picture but progress, Colt barrel finally arrived, insert doesn't stand out quite so much once assembled
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Posted: 12/16/2021 4:58:06 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spoonhead: I'm a bit confused as to the height of the Spuhr HRT mounts? Are they a lower 1/3 cowitness or just a little higher? I just installed the Spuhr HRT mount on my Colt. The Spuhr mount puts the center line of the T2 at 1.615” above the rail. It’s more of a lower 1/4 height due to the small diameter of the T2 but you can still run iron sights through it. Mile High Shooting has the HRT mount in stock. It’s really nice and in my opinion it is superior to DD with the spacer. Of course it was almost a c note more 
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Posted: 12/21/2021 2:24:05 PM EDT
[#16]
I know it's established that they use VTAC slings. Does anyone know for certain which version for the regional swat and the HRT?
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Posted: 12/21/2021 10:25:42 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: Added a Surefire M300C and Cloud Defensive LCS. https://i.imgur.com/JIOKjnF.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BOFzFsD.jpg I really need to build one of these. You bastards 
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Posted: 12/22/2021 5:21:39 PM EDT
[#18]
I went all in and have the ODG Fed rail coming. Here’s where I’m at:
Colt Upper - either C marked or Cage Code. Have both, have not decided yet Colt 6933 barrel - stripped from Brownells Colt Charging Handle Colt BCG Geissele Mk4 Federal in ODG A2 flash hider Aimpoint T2 Spuhr HRT mount Colt M4LE factory SBR lower with the original FCG, buffer tube, and H1 buffer Magpul ODG CTR A2 grip The only things I don’t have are the gas block, AFG, sights, sling, and Surefire M300. I’ll be using an Arisaka 300 I have on hand until I have funds for the M300. Still figuring out the gas block. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 1:34:22 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jonathon: I just installed the Spuhr HRT mount on my Colt. The Spuhr mount puts the center line of the T2 at 1.615" above the rail. It's more of a lower 1/4 height due to the small diameter of the T2 but you can still run iron sights through it. Mile High Shooting has the HRT mount in stock. It's really nice and in my opinion it is superior to DD with the spacer. Of course it was almost a c note more Can anyone provide any info on the color of hand guards currently in use by the different groups? I've read through about half this thread and it seems that there's at least a little disagreement on whether HRT or SWAT uses the ODG? I'm a fan of all four colors used in the Mk4 fed rail, but would like to know with some certainty who uses what? Anyone have links they can provide? |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 2:24:21 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spoonhead: I found one in like new condition and really like it, much better than I originally thought. I haven't tried it yet with Troy sights, but with a set of DD fixed irons I'd agree that it's at least lower 1/4-1/3 height. The quality is great, and it feels super solid. I'd buy another at this height even without HRT on the side. Can anyone provide any info on the color of hand guards currently in use by the different groups? I've read through about half this thread and it seems that there's at least a little disagreement on whether HRT or SWAT uses the ODG? I'm a fan of all four colors used in the Mk4 fed rail, but would like to know with some certainty who uses what? Anyone have links they can provide? All the info is listed in the first post of this thread. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 12/24/2021 2:58:55 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CFDFFEMT: All the info is listed in the first post of this thread. |
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Posted: 12/24/2021 5:04:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: oldbrowndog]
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spoonhead: I read over that, and most of the thread, and there seems to be some disagreement on whether HRT uses ODG or DDC. Most clone pics you see, here and elsewhere, are using the ODG rail with the Spuhr HRT mount, however that is contradicted in several places by those who say HRT uses the DDC rail with the Daniel Defense mount. I was just wondering if anyone has current info that can be verified? Don't take the clones posted here as gospel. The first page is correct, the clones are whatever people want to build. ODG - Regional SWAT DDC - HRT Black - Individual Agents Grey - Vehicle Teams IIRC, there was an agent in this thread who verified this. |
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Posted: 12/25/2021 1:07:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By oldbrowndog: Don't take the clones posted here as gospel. The first page is correct, the clones are whatever people want to build. ODG - Regional SWAT DDC - HRT Black - Individual Agents Grey - Vehicle Teams IIRC, there was an agent in this thread who verified this. Do you know which T1/2 mount each division uses? Obviously HRT uses the Spuhr, but what about the others? I realize there's some flexibility in each group regarding rifle setup, but I would love to see a list of the standard configurations each uses. |
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Posted: 12/25/2021 11:52:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: C6H12O6]
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spoonhead: Good information! Do you know which T1/2 mount each division uses? Obviously HRT uses the Spuhr, but what about the others? I realize there's some flexibility in each group regarding rifle setup, but I would love to see a list of the standard configurations each uses. Some T1s have been seen with the Daniel Defense mount (OD regional) and Sig Romeo 4Ms with the Sig mounts (gray vehicle teams).  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 12/25/2021 2:29:00 PM EDT
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Someone posted a photo of an in service regional SWAT rifle that had the Spuhr mount as well. I bought my Spuhr before I saw that because I’ve had the DD in the past and wasn’t fond of it. The Spuhr mounting system is superior in every way. Now that it’s been seen in the wild, even if rare on a regional SWAT rifle, it’s “correct”.
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Posted: 12/25/2021 5:44:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HKocher]
[#26]
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Posted: 12/25/2021 8:58:28 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKocher: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/83/2BCE26CF-2DC4-4DA2-8952-B2FB49567959_jpe-2216721.JPG Is that your new rifle? |
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Posted: 12/25/2021 10:10:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKocher: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/83/2BCE26CF-2DC4-4DA2-8952-B2FB49567959_jpe-2216721.JPG I notice it has the new QD insert. Any more info ? |
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Posted: 12/25/2021 11:46:57 PM EDT
[#29]
I'm loving the all black setup. What's the story?
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Posted: 12/26/2021 1:19:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/29/2021 7:25:31 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jonathon: I went all in and have the ODG Fed rail coming. Here’s where I’m at: Colt Upper - either C marked or Cage Code. Have both, have not decided yet Colt 6933 barrel - stripped from Brownells Colt Charging Handle Colt BCG Geissele Mk4 Federal in ODG A2 flash hider Aimpoint T2 Spuhr HRT mount Colt M4LE factory SBR lower with the original FCG, buffer tube, and H1 buffer Magpul ODG CTR A2 grip The only things I don’t have are the gas block, AFG, sights, sling, and Surefire M300. I’ll be using an Arisaka 300 I have on hand until I have funds for the M300. Still figuring out the gas block. You are using the same lower I'm using on the 2 I'm putting together. Doing a Regional Swat and HRT build. I pondered the gas block situation as for the Regional build I have a complete upper and a separate stripped barrel and gas block. pretty much talked me into going the shaved Colt FSB on both I think from a functionality standpoint |
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Posted: 12/31/2021 3:15:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jhon]
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By reaper556: You are using the same lower I'm using on the 2 I'm putting together. Doing a Regional Swat and HRT build. I pondered the gas block situation as for the Regional build I have a complete upper and a separate stripped barrel and gas block. pretty much talked me into going the shaved Colt FSB on both I think from a functionality standpoint I managed to find a used stainless Super Gas Block in the EE for a reasonable price, should have it in the next few days. I'm going to dimple the stripped 6933 barrel I bought from Brownells and call it a day. From what I've gathered in this thread set screws are "correct". Shaved FSB is bomb proof though. The only reason I didn't shave my original 6933 barrel is it was a .625 and I was able to pass it along to someone who could use it. I bought a complete 6921 upper hoping it would come with a CAGE code receiver, and unfortunately it did not. So I kept the original C marked upper on my 6933 and used the BCG from the 6921.  Here's where I am now. I just received the Fed rail from Brownells and am pleased with the color. I sort of wanted the new sling swivel socket but no complaints as the color is spot on. I decided to keep the Arisaka 300 with the E1HT head and have a UE tail cap and ST07 on the way. Surprisingly this is the only not correct piece I intend to run as I'll get the Troy sights eventually. Never thought I'd clone a rifle but the FBI guns are just about perfect. I just realized how salty that Colt mag is. It came with my 6933 when I bought it a decade ago and was new. This rifle means a lot to me and has been through a lot. The 11.5" length really is perfect. The 10.5" Fed rail is also "just right" for me as it as rails where needed and none where you don't. |
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Posted: 1/1/2022 8:33:22 PM EDT
[#33]
Finally installed a light on this one, Surefire M300 with Cloud LCS tape switch holder.
 
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Posted: 1/9/2022 3:21:19 PM EDT
[#34]
In think I’m doing this right so far
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Posted: 1/9/2022 3:29:58 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKocher: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/83/2BCE26CF-2DC4-4DA2-8952-B2FB49567959_jpe-2216721.JPG I wish the engraving was a bit smaller and a deeper, pre-ano engraving, rather than the light etching. |
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Posted: 1/9/2022 3:30:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spoonhead: Good information! Do you know which T1/2 mount each division uses? Obviously HRT uses the Spuhr, but what about the others? I realize there's some flexibility in each group regarding rifle setup, but I would love to see a list of the standard configurations each uses. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spoonhead: Originally Posted By oldbrowndog: Don't take the clones posted here as gospel. The first page is correct, the clones are whatever people want to build. ODG - Regional SWAT DDC - HRT Black - Individual Agents Grey - Vehicle Teams IIRC, there was an agent in this thread who verified this. Do you know which T1/2 mount each division uses? Obviously HRT uses the Spuhr, but what about the others? I realize there's some flexibility in each group regarding rifle setup, but I would love to see a list of the standard configurations each uses. They are almost all DD or DD with the small riser. |
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Posted: 1/9/2022 4:13:54 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MeanGun: In think I’m doing this right so far https://i.ibb.co/10MG32Z/914-E1109-8788-46-D3-8139-616-C8-FE4390-C.jpg Fuck yes!! And where in the hell did you find an OD Gov ACH? You buy the whole kit way back or off EE? |
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Posted: 1/9/2022 5:48:19 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GoRebels: Fuck yes!! And where in the hell did you find an OD Gov ACH? You buy the whole kit way back or off EE? lol, thanks I’ve pieces it together over the last few years. I pieced it all together. It started with a new Gen 1 rail and I just went from there. Those Gov ODG handles seem to be the rarity now and aren’t even clone correct. The Thenar stop is the really odd ball clone correct part |
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Posted: 1/10/2022 1:57:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Slu54]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MeanGun: lol, thanks I’ve pieces it together over the last few years. I pieced it all together. It started with a new Gen 1 rail and I just went from there. Those Gov ODG handles seem to be the rarity now and aren’t even clone correct. The Thenar stop is the really odd ball clone correct part  I guess except for that Thenar chode thing and looks like you spent ultra extra money on the old Spuhr mount. Clone threads are fun, we share photos of the same thing. |
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Posted: 1/11/2022 3:36:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
[#40]
Finally got my alpha rail installed. Not completely finished. Still got work to do on it.
 Attached FileHere was my inspiration  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 1/11/2022 4:17:22 PM EDT
[#41]
Came across this posted elsewhere.
  
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Posted: 1/11/2022 4:24:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: Came across this posted elsewhere. https://i.imgur.com/8dLeNI4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VEB9dKg.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zu6ypfb.jpg I haven't seen that posted yet, cool find |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 7:46:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: Came across this posted elsewhere. https://i.imgur.com/8dLeNI4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VEB9dKg.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zu6ypfb.jpg |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 8:05:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: Is it just me, or does it look like they cut the beaver tail off an ergo pistol grip? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dyzastr: Originally Posted By HD2006: Came across this posted elsewhere. https://i.imgur.com/8dLeNI4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VEB9dKg.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zu6ypfb.jpg Yeah that does look strange. Didn’t notice it before. |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 9:25:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Slu54]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: Yeah that does look strange. Didn’t notice it before. Poor photoshop job. Or not, or not. I recommend hacking away at your ergos to be super duper clone correct. |
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Posted: 1/12/2022 9:33:48 PM EDT
[#46]
Ergo makes a grip without the beavertail.
https://www.ergogrips.net/shop/ergo-2-flat-top-ar15ar10-grip-kit-suregrip/ |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 2:54:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JLAudio: Ergo makes a grip without the beavertail. https://www.ergogrips.net/shop/ergo-2-flat-top-ar15ar10-grip-kit-suregrip/ Edit- idk though, this makes it look chopped?  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/13/2022 8:02:40 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HKocher]
[#48]
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Posted: 1/13/2022 9:16:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dyzastr]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKocher: Probably is actually chopped. Dude I knew went to Midsouth and chopped off his beaver tail on their recommendation. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKocher: Originally Posted By Dyzastr: Is it just me, or does it look like they cut the beaver tail off an ergo pistol grip? Probably is actually chopped. Dude I knew went to Midsouth and chopped off his beaver tail on their recommendation. Eta- I wasn’t sure if I’d like the Troy alpha rail, due to negative experiences I’ve read about, but I must say it’s becoming a favorite. It locks up way tighter than I thought it would. I’ll likely have to put some loctite on the mounting screws to prevent them from backing out under recoil. I originally put an accessory rail at 6 o’clock for an afg or vfg, but it’s such a comfortable rail as is, that I may not use a vfg or afg.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/16/2022 12:42:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: C6H12O6]
[#50]
HRT involved in Colleyville, TX Synagogue hostage situation
Reports are shitbag is dead & hostages safe after HRT operation  Attached File(screenshot of pic from NY Times site) A hostage was escorted out of Congregation Beth Israel on Saturday evening.Credit...Elias Valverde/The Dallas Morning News, via Associated Press Someone with better cyber skills can probably find better pics. |
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